European Union: In or Out ?

A well known TUST Militant, ardent Remainiac, and campaigner for an extension to Season Ticket Holder privileges, has been banging the same drum with monotonous considerable regularity for several weeks, but will have left many flabbergasted by a post he's made elsewhere this evening. Anyone who occasionally looks in on this thread will hardly need reminding, but in essence our popular friend's argument seems to have boiled down to a simple assertion that in order to know whether the points of view being put forward on the subject of Brexit are worthy of consideration, we should first examine their Bank balance, and establish whether they'd personally gain or lose financially from the UK being in or out of the EU.

For anyone new to the thread, here's an example:



It seems that even a financially neutral position disqualifies you. Instead you need to be destined to lose enough cash as a result of what you're advocating becoming reality, that your worth would drop below the million mark.......then we might consider the merits of your argument rather than focusing solely on your Bank balance.

An unexceptional, class warrior, hard left, TUST Militant mind-set, you might conclude.  A criteria we might not all have agreed with, but had become familiar, but still naively perhaps, expecting it to be faithfully upheld and applied to all. But tonight, instantly smashing the hypocrisy meter to tiny pieces, our Remainiac friend has, elsewhere, wheeled out Lord Heseltine to speak on Brexit' !! 

Now, if we had to name one person who we'd have every right to assume would dismiss the opinion of an ultra rich member of the landed gentry, before a word on the subject had left Heseltine's mouth, we know who would have instantly sprung to mind. 'More than a million stashed away ?  that's you excluded for a start buddy !' .........however, it seems that , mysteriously, Lord Heseltine, is not being held to the same standards. In fact Heseltine's speech at this weekends Losers March has been presented elsewhere, in a fashion that indicates that our Hard Left Remainer friend wants it to be judged solely on it's merits. 'But surely that would mean tearing up the oft quoted Remainiac rulebook.....has Rob suddenly morphed into John Bercow ??' I hear you ask, incredulously.

What possible reason for this sudden change of policy i wonder ? Why the numerous glaring omissions ? Why no mention of Heseltine's vast personal wealth, estimated to be in excess of £300 million ? But maybe even more conspicuous by it's absence was the lack of even the slightest mention that as far back as the year 2000, Heseltine has on average been pocketing £90,000 ever year by way of a handout from the EU. Loads of money, loads of land, and loads more income by way of EU subsidies. Conveniently none of which was worth a mention from our well known Remainer. "The fact that I am a wealthy man is quite irrelevant" states Remainer Heseltine, and in this particular instance, it seems that Remainer Rob fully agrees.........how odd that it never once applied similarly to well off Leavers.


Remainiac rules ?....whether it's their bank balance test, or their claims they'd abide by the result of a National Referendum...........it can all be altered in an instant if it doesn't suit.

link - Remainiac Heseltine's Millions, plus EU handouts

Haha. ‘Finagle’. Like that word. But I’ll stand by my assertion that it really is that he was instrumental in bringing Thatcher down that causes that abominable rag to dislike him to this day. He got the Environment Secretary job to scrap the Poll Tax and then served as Deputy PM to John Major. I think, like many, he was just glad to see the back of Thatcher in the end.

‘Coveting the top job and finagling’. Now who could that apply to today? <insert clown smiley>

Is it Ronnie Corbett? Calling him a tw@ seems harsh, though.

My commiserations with you over tonight’s news that Rees-Mogg could be backing May’s Deal, AJ. I sense you are hurting. If it’s any consolation, he used to support a Final Say referendum before calling May’s Deal something that would make us a slave state. So whether he’ll flip flop again by Thursday is anyone’s guess. The poor chinless soul.

In other Brexit Millionaire Set news, finagling coveter Bo Jo The Clown has also indicated he will vote for it if he can have an early crack at Conservative Party leadership.

Farridge? Still avoiding the Nutters March and tonight advocating a longer extension to Article 50. The barmpot noise-smith.

I feel your hurt, but I’m not sure he’s worth you getting too upset. Enjoy the upbeat Joe take on things instead.

No majority for anything in Parliament. Will this put Meaningful Vote 3 back into play?

This whole subject has become a total farce. The conservative government has had almost three years to resolve what was a perfectly genuine instruction from the public, and have failed miserably to carry it out. Every time I see the prime minister on TV, I do feel sorry for her because she has dedicated her whole tenure to trying to abide by the result of the referendum, but she has, over a period of time, retreated into a reluctant bubble, as it is common knowledge that she was a staunch remainer when the whole process started.

Some people say that she now cuts a pathetic figure whenever she returns from Brussels with her hopes dashed. For me, the most pathetic figure in the House of Commons is Ian Blackford, the parliamentary leader of the SNP. Every time he speaks, he says that the Scottish people will not accept the result of the referendum as they wish to remain within the European Union. If that is the case, why did they not vote for independence in 2014? Does he really expect all of those people across the four countries who voted to leave to worry about the plight which he says the Scottish people face and change their minds for that reason?

Tonight's "indicative votes" all failed, although I do respect Oliver Letwin's attempts to try to find something different to break the impasse. However, we are now back where we started as there is such a diversity of opinions (sixteen, as the Speaker selected only half of them for the vote), that there is no chance of any consensus however far Brexit is delayed.

The current government is so divided on this matter that it is impossible to determine who could possibly lead the party after Mrs May's departure. I never thought that I would say this, but I would probably vote Labour were it not for the presence of Corbyn, whom nobody in their right mind could support. However, I would vote for them if any of the possible candidates for the leadership included Keir Starmer, Hilary Benn or Yvette Cooper, who have all, during the past months, demonstrated integrity and a genuine desire to debate in the best interests of the country.

Although I was a strong advocate of "leave" in the 2016 referendum, I now find myself sick and tired of the whole thing, to the extent that I now couldn't care less who wins this ghastly pantomime. Leave or Remain, get it over and done with, so that we can get back to tackling more important matters like knife crime and similar offences against society.