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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 10:11:45 GMT
The People of the South West sending a clear message to the EU. Yes it is a clear message. Clear Brexit parties 39.9% of vote (Brexit Party 36.7%; UKIP 3.2%) Clear Remain / 2nd Referendum parties 44% of vote (Lib Dem 23.1 %; Green 18.1%; Change UK 2.8%) It is certainly clear to me..... So let me just understand this...one party receives 36.7% of the vote (leave) and one party receives 2.8% of the vote (remain) and you think the majority want to be in the EU! How is The Divine One doing today...I'll bet he chocked on his Nectar at breakfast this morning when he saw those results! Sometimes I crack myself up!
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Post by stefano on May 27, 2019 11:29:31 GMT
Yes it is a clear message. Clear Brexit parties 39.9% of vote (Brexit Party 36.7%; UKIP 3.2%) Clear Remain / 2nd Referendum parties 44% of vote (Lib Dem 23.1 %; Green 18.1%; Change UK 2.8%) It is certainly clear to me..... So let me just understand this...one party receives 36.7% of the vote (leave) and one party receives 2.8% of the vote (remain) and you think the majority want to be in the EU! How is The Divine One doing today...I'll bet he chocked on his Nectar at breakfast this morning when he saw those results! Sometimes I crack myself up! Clearly you don't understand it so there is nothing else to say really! Other than: Remain supporting parties 44%; Leave supporting parties 39.9%. This is democracy in action after the farce of the 2016 opinion poll!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 12:08:44 GMT
Reg I'm afraid that willful misunderstanding has characterised the pronouncements of our Remainiac friends, almost from the moment the 2016 Referendum result announcing they had lost, sent them into a ' toys out of the pram' frenzy from which they're yet to recover. 'Ah, so you along with the majority voted to Leave ? So that obviously means you wish to stay in the Customers Union, stay in the Single Market, and after we've given a new name to a host of other old agreements we had with the EU, we can sign back up to those as well '
And however much anyone tries to explain that we voted 'Leave' in order to actually free ourselves from all those EU restrictions, their determination to misunderstand hasn't wavered from that day to this. Three years down the line, and your Remainer masters are still working day and night to get you out of the EU, but somehow can't quite seem to manage it....yeah right ! And now we examine the results of a multi party election, in which the Brexit Party romp home as clear winners, yet our Remainiac mates seem to read some result into it comparable to a one question, one issue, 'yes or no' choice Referendum. In fact they've even read the tea leaves votes and discovered signs of a call for a ' Confirmatory Vote' ..... sheer genius ! Complete codswallop, as they actually well know, Reg.Yet if willful misunderstanding again brings some much needed comfort to Remainers, then lets not pull that rug out from beneath them too forcefully. We want to be compassionate Leavers, surely. At the beginning of last week I walked about half a mile down the lane from Alpine Towers to get a dozen free range eggs. I do this a couple of times a month and generally have a chat with the Eco Loon woman and her daughter who keep the hens on their land. Mum wants cars banned, and global warming stopped before it melts the polar bears. Daughter has heard a Scandinavian schoolgirl on TV, announcing that the world might come to an end before Torquay get chance to kick off the new season in the National League. Both Mother and daughter told me they'd be voting Green. Neither would recognise a Confirmatory Vote if they tripped over one. Both more or less recognise the drunk bloke that leads the EU when he's on the telly, but have no strong views on EU membership one way or the other, and didn't vote in the 2016 Referendum. Looking at the surveys, particularly amongst younger people, and it is the environment and 'climate change', all the more so since the Blessed Greta was over here preaching, that are their main concern. You've got a Green vote of not far short of 20% for the South West region on Thursday. It just can't be accurate to equate that with the votes cast for a single issue Party such as the one Farage heads. Who's to say that they weren't mostly 'Greta' inspired climate change fearing, tree huggers, convinced global warming will kill them before their next birthday ? Any Brexit thoughts may be very much secondary, or even non existent. In fact wouldn't the fully committed 'Bollocks To Brexit' brigade have prioritised the LibDems as recipients of their vote on Thursday ? From 2016 Referendum Day onward, the determination to read something other than the plain request of the people, has been a regular theme of the Remainiac approach to Brexit. Ask for 'Leave', they'll do all they can to bring you 'Remain'. A stunning Brexit Party victory, that'll mean you're demonstrating your undying love for the EU ! It's all part of the new 'Brexit Interpretation' rules introduced immediately after 23rd June 2016, Reg. Get used to them, they'll be around for some time yet.
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Post by rjdgull on May 27, 2019 13:14:22 GMT
I think a common mistake by various posters is to attribute someone voting for a party that is either pro remain or pro leave as that is their only consideration when in actual fact there are many tribal voters who vote differently in an election for their party and in a referendum with no party on the ballot. I am sure I recall seeing a poll a few years back that a small percentage of UKIP voters decided to tick the remain box in the recent referendum- figure that one out! On a lighter note saw a tweet that a voter in Leicester on Thursday put “WANK” in every box apart from the Green Party which was “NOT WANK” After due process the slip was adjudged not to have been spoilt and the Greens were accredited with the vote!
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Post by stefano on May 27, 2019 13:27:33 GMT
Some more amusing unadulterated nonsense Alpine, but I did like the beer deal image so have copied it to use
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 13:37:43 GMT
So let me just understand this...one party receives 36.7% of the vote (leave) and one party receives 2.8% of the vote (remain) and you think the majority want to be in the EU! How is The Divine One doing today...I'll bet he chocked on his Nectar at breakfast this morning when he saw those results! Sometimes I crack myself up! Clearly you don't understand it so there is nothing else to say really! Other than: Remain supporting parties 44%; Leave supporting parties 39.9%. This is democracy in action after the farce of the 2016 opinion poll! www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1132499/ITV-Good-Morning-Britain-Nigel-Farage-Brexit-Party-EU-Election-result-Charlotte-HawkinsOh Stefano...your Maths!
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Post by Rob on May 27, 2019 14:51:23 GMT
Daily Express. You are a wag.
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Post by stefano on May 27, 2019 15:10:52 GMT
Daily Express. You are a wag.
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Post by stefano on May 27, 2019 16:17:19 GMT
I think a common mistake by various posters is to attribute someone voting for a party that is either pro remain or pro leave as that is their only consideration when in actual fact there are many tribal voters who vote differently in an election for their party and in a referendum with no party on the ballot. Normally I would agree with that but after the turmoil of the last 3 years this election was a single issue vote that being whether we leave the European Union or reconsider. The figures I quoted earlier which Reg did not understand were accurate and related to the South west Region only. Nationally it is as a share of the vote: Those parties which support a 2nd referendum (Lib Dem / Greens / Labour / Change UK) 49%; Those who want to leave with or without a deal (Brexit Party / UKIP) 35%. I have not included the Cons as they are a very divided party and although their official stance is to leave deal or no deal within the party there are many opposed to that, and if I did include them in the above figures I would also have to include the SNP which would balance it out as they are a remain party. All very interesting and I have never watched so many news programmes and documentaries as I have in the last 3 years. I shall miss it when it is all over!
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 8:10:32 GMT
So Michael Gove would offer European nationals living in the UK the chance to become British citizens, at no cost, if he becomes prime minister. His aides have said he will make the offer to EU nationals who were living in the UK at the time of the June 2016 referendum. Apparently there are around three million EU citizens in the UK who would be eligible, once they have been resident for five years. Gove would waive the £1,330 naturalisation fee, as a gesture of goodwill. So after reading this, I got my old slide rule out and worked out that 3 million waives of £1330 is nearly £4 billion, well £3.99 billion. That's not a gesture of goodwill to pucker Brit nationals, it's an almighty V-sign. Depriving The Treasury of that sort of money is scandalous. I could only accept it if the EU reciprocated over all Brit nationals currently residing in an EU country, other than UK (which I know is not really a country). If it's a unilateral offer, dreamed up to make him seem more magnanimous and electable, then he should be marched off to The Tower, without any dinner. Link: news.sky.com/story/michael-gove-to-offer-three-million-eu-nationals-free-british-passports-117297574 billion...a mere drop in the ocean to what we give away every year! We don't have to worry though...we'll soon be getting our £350.000.000 a week!
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Post by plainmoorpete on May 28, 2019 8:32:53 GMT
Except we will have to spend the £350 million a week saved on the unemployment benefits for all the workers who worked for companies reliant on trade with Europe.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 8:44:00 GMT
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Post by Rob on May 28, 2019 22:16:19 GMT
Daily Express. You are a wag. You're right...so I've gone up market a bit with the Daily Mail Not sure that rag even backed Britain without their preferred leader Oswald Moseley and his fascists against Nazi Germany, did it? And Littlejohn? For heaven’s sake, Reg, you’re not helping yourself.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 8:13:16 GMT
You're right...so I've gone up market a bit with the Daily Mail Not sure that rag even backed Britain without their preferred leader Oswald Moseley and his fascists against Nazi Germany, did it? And Littlejohn? For heaven’s sake, Reg, you’re not helping yourself. I don't think we can be blamed for the Sins of the Father! 😕
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 9:15:37 GMT
Rob Under it's current editorship, the Daily Mail is back in the 'Remainer' fold, so the old connection is re-established. While I've a feeling that Sir Oswald would find the modern Labour Party just too anti semitic even for his tastes, he would of course be the staunchest of Remaniacs it's possible to imagine. In the unlikely event that we've a young reader who doesn't realise that the European Union followed the Moseley blueprint for it's construction, you may have been wondering why our PM is always summoned to them, and why a few months back, Remainer May was left sitting in the back of her car, then getting out and wandering about like a spare pr*ck at a wedding ?. And only when Tezza and Britain's humiliation was complete in front of the world's press and TV cameras, did Herr Merkel slowly emerge to beckon Tezza inside. Remainiac Moseley would have been filled with pride. To prise ourselves free from under the EU jackboot and restore some semblance of self respect for Britain, still remains a mammoth task, given the power of the EU, the globalist elite, the BBC etc, all working together to ensure that we fail. If we don't help Nigel man the barricades, our fate will be sealed, and as we've seen, the Elite's have even prevented our escape via the ballot box. Interviewed in 1975, Sir Oswald Mosley, former leader of the British Union of Fascists in the 1930's, and former Conservative, Labour and Independent Member of Parliament, outlines his desire for a centrally-controlled European government. Speaking about methods of protectionism from 'World Finance' Mosley posits a protectionist approach whereby Great Britain would be controlled by a central European authority and be devolved into regions. Remarkably prescient comments - his approach was exactly that of the architects of the European Union and is being rolled out today across the continent.
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