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Post by petef on Nov 21, 2016 13:02:18 GMT
I reckon whoever it is, GI or Smirthwaite etc etc, any offer is unlikely to be born out of an interest or affection for the football club.
Thats a fact we will all have to get used to now.
Any businessman or woman inheriting the wreckage that remains will need some radical thinking if they want to retain a football club in Torquay.
Most of us fell for Chris Roberts optomistic spiel just ten years ago when we got sucked in wanting to believe that he had good intentions. As it transpired he just turned out to be a good talker with no substance - a completetly deluded con man who managed to con all of us including some very savvy businessmen including Mike Bateson.
Whoever this midlands group is we have lttle choice other than to look, listen and hope their intentions are honourable, that they have the football club at heart and have a sensible business plan that brings stability to make this club viable once again.
In reallity "viable" is all we can hope for at the moment any thing more would be a bonus.
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Post by Rob on Nov 21, 2016 16:09:25 GMT
This club needs a total rethink in terms of how its run as it is its heading for the scrap heap anyway so maybe GI, if they actually do get hold of it may have some fresh ideas on how to salvage something from the debris of recent seasons and give back the club some sort of future - in whatever guise that may be. Like I said before, I would get behind any ownership that looked to progress the Club and did something about it. It concerns me that the well oiled early doors GI spin machine could still suck in some, however. Their intentions and end results for supporters are easily found with a quick google search or two and whilst they are able to play the long game with land acquisition, it sadly never ends well. Please God it is not them. Having had the gates shut on one for over 8 years, I couldn't bear seeing the end for both my sporting loves curteosy of these crooks. Let's hope we get some good news on this midlands based consortium. |
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Post by petef on Nov 21, 2016 17:06:39 GMT
Unfortunately we are a wounded animal Rob and the vultures are circling for sure.
I still have my suspicions that GI engineered this scenario some time ago and set up and played Dave Phillips to their advantage. Thats what clever businessmen do, play the long game isnt it?
I wasnt at all surprised when the deal fell through with the councils refusal to release the freehold of Plainmoor. GI for sure would have predicted that well before they they loaned the club chunks of cash In able to hold Dave Phillips to ransom at a later date and perhaps even perseuded he board to offer the suicidal season ticket deal!
Myabe there are other players, maybe not but my concern is that whoever does inherit control will more than likely have the football club way down on the list of priorities.
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Post by simonb on Nov 21, 2016 17:56:48 GMT
It's been a harrowing journey so far and there are still murky undertones relating to the whole process. On one hand it would be tremendous if we do embrace new owners who have integrity, on the other hand going by recent standards, we could end up well and truly stitched-up! Hoping for good outcome but have serious concerns!
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Post by Rob on Nov 21, 2016 18:09:31 GMT
I still have my suspicions that GI engineered this scenario some time ago and set up and played Dave Phillips to their advantage. Thats what clever businessmen do, play the long game isnt it? ... perhaps even persuaded he board to offer the suicidal season ticket deal! Wouldn't surprise me at all. When it comes to land acquisition, they will do whatever it takes, sucker people in and spin how much it is everyone else but themselves to blame for failed promises, whilst housing or other non-sport development gets past the planners at the existing sporting venues/land acquired. |
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Post by simonb on Nov 22, 2016 17:17:37 GMT
Looks to be an ever changing set of scenarios - almost as though the options were drawn on the back of a cigarette packet - perhaps everything is made up? Getting somewhat jittery over the whole new owner thing now! Bright new dawn or cesspit?
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Post by thefarmersfriend on Nov 22, 2016 22:24:42 GMT
Quote is that the Midland consortium deal has fallen through.
Surprised? No.
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Post by simonb on Nov 23, 2016 0:08:27 GMT
I suppose this was never going to happen, yet another false dawn despite the muttering of our beloved chairman. Seems we are destined to be shafted by GI and/or Masters. Tonight's result could have been the pinnacle of our season!
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Post by rjdgull on Nov 23, 2016 7:51:52 GMT
Quote is that the Midland consortium deal has fallen through. Surprised? No. Tick tock |
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Post by stig123 on Nov 23, 2016 16:38:04 GMT
PANTS!
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Post by simonb on Nov 23, 2016 17:07:29 GMT
Pants indeed - here we are a few weeks down the road from being told there were a multitude of bids for the club and yet strangely every single one of the potential buyers has for some reason scarpered! Makes you wonder how exactly our wonderful board approached things and what information they did (or did not) divulge ? We are approaching oblivion now (barring any miracles). How sad it is to savour what might have been in terms of players such as Kieffer Moore but I suppose this has to be in the context of us being an "if only" club! If only sensible management of the club's affairs had been exercised! If only we had a board that communicated with the supporters. If only we had a board that showed real passion for TUFC. If only!
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Post by petef on Nov 23, 2016 20:27:11 GMT
Quote is that the Midland consortium deal has fallen through. Surprised? No. Quote From where ? |
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Post by thefarmersfriend on Nov 23, 2016 20:58:24 GMT
Quote is that the Midland consortium deal has fallen through. Surprised? No. Quote From where ? From the game last night, from a few people there. Seems that somebody (or bodies) asked Dave Phillips directly, but it's all second-hand to me personally, so I can't offer any veracity. As I say, though, wouldn't surprise me. At this stage in the sell-off game we're only going to attract the mad, bad, skint or deluded, and I don't trust the current board, no matter how well intentioned they are, to see past such people. In fact I now see on BTPIR that it's believed that they were supposed to sign and just failed to show up. If true, can anyone tell me why such people were still considered a better option for TUFC than the supporters actually running the club themselves? |
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Post by simonb on Nov 23, 2016 21:22:18 GMT
Because those running the club have poor judgement perhaps?
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Post by Rob on Nov 23, 2016 21:36:52 GMT
Regarding farmersfriends question, alpine has the answer, I believe. Something about militants and reds in the bed. I don't really understand why Dave Phillips would be saying it's off to a few fans last night followed by silence the day after, but there you go. Let's hope they got back in touch.
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