rjdgull
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Post by rjdgull on Feb 28, 2017 15:07:34 GMT
The home fixture was one of the highlights of the season but we seem to have hit rock bottom and gawd knows what will happen tonight......
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Post by geddingtongull on Feb 28, 2017 15:24:12 GMT
I see there is to be a pitch inspection at 3.30pm.
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chelstongull
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Post by chelstongull on Feb 28, 2017 16:08:00 GMT
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Post by loyaltygull on Feb 28, 2017 18:52:13 GMT
Off now lol
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Post by chelstongull on Feb 28, 2017 19:19:29 GMT
What a tinpot club that can't get a match on, how unprofressional, bah.
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Post by stewart on Feb 28, 2017 21:57:15 GMT
I wonder what the odds would have been against the three teams below us in the table, given who they were playing, all winning this evening. Moreover, I should be very interested in what the odds were against our escaping from the bottom four before tonight's matches. Despite being a supporter for the past 62 years, I feel that I may have missed out big time.
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Post by simonb on Feb 28, 2017 22:05:47 GMT
Don't panic our new owners will sort things out! No doubt they are good at flogging a dead horse!
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Post by stig123 on Feb 28, 2017 23:05:30 GMT
They will need to act quickly. ...we are in the bottom four!
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Post by stewart on Feb 28, 2017 23:17:05 GMT
All joking aside, we have two points more after 34 games than last season, without the same momentum and without MacDonald, Smith, Butler, Racchi, Rees or Blissett.
Anyone who believes that we will escape this time, with or without the mythical funds which the land grabbers are supposed to be providing, is living in La La Land, or perhaps even in Moonlight.
The extent to which the team, and the club, has declined since the early 1970s has already been well documented. In the meantime, there have been moments to savour under Knowles, Hodges, Rosenior and Buckle, but generally speaking the ship has been sinking since the club declined John Bond's offer to take over as manager. Just think what heights the club could have reached through his experience and contacts !
I would suggest to everyone now, sit back and relish your memories, whether they be of Sam Collins, Robin Stubbs and Tom Northcott, or much later of Hill, Russell and Graham. Before long they will be all that remain of a once proud and progressive club. Who is to blame for that ? I really have no idea.
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Post by thefarmersfriend on Mar 1, 2017 8:29:33 GMT
Who is to blame for that ? I really have no idea. Can offer my long or short answer and I'm going for the latter: Torquay has never been a football town. That didn't matter too much when it was still relatively prosperous and there were fewer leisure-time distractions. As the area declined and the plight of lower league football clubs grew, a few people managed to paper over the cracks with varying degrees of success, but now we have finally used up all of our lifelines and there appears not to be enough interest or commitment in South Devon to maintain a professional football team and the sharks have moved in for the kill.
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Post by hector on Mar 1, 2017 8:36:12 GMT
Stewart's list of previous good memories in terms of players and managers really brings home the current state we are in. We know we have no money but it is just humiliating that a club like ours is likely to find itself in regional football next season. How depressing that we are not even good enough for this awful division, let alone League 2.
This is the old Alliance Premier, the previous 'Gola League' and we can't even cope in it.
I have these forlorn hopes that like other clubs who find themselves in a league they'd consider beneath them, that one day we will climb back up - I imagine fans for Portsmouth feel like us being in League 2. How must fans of Coventry City, who for 25+ unbroken years were in the top flight, only to look certain to fall into League 2 for next season?
Even our division, a club like Wrexham and Tranmere struggling to get out.
Yet, all those above mentioned clubs, I'd imagine, one day at least, will reverse their fortunes. I don't quite see it with Torquay now.
I think we have the fan base - for now - and I'd imagine, even in the Conference South, if we were winning every week, attendances would be impressive for that division. But the current malaise needs arresting sooner, rather than later, or else the potential supporters who may be lapsed for now, may go beyond even that point.
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Post by hector on Mar 1, 2017 8:52:18 GMT
Who is to blame for that ? I really have no idea. Can offer my long or short answer and I'm going for the latter: Torquay has never been a football town. That didn't matter too much when it was still relatively prosperous and there were fewer leisure-time distractions. As the area declined and the plight of lower league football clubs grew, a few people managed to paper over the cracks with varying degrees of success, but now we have finally used up all of our lifelines and there appears not to be enough interest or commitment in South Devon to maintain a professional football team and the sharks have moved in for the kill. I don't think it is that necessarily the case. I think the fact Plainmoor can muster 1600+ for home game with Sutton United, is quite impressive, especially in view of the last 5 years we have witnessed. Half a decade of despair and yet that sort of attendance for this level of football - especially a club in the bottom 4 - suggests there is enough interest. The club has just been appallingly managed and supporters, if anything, are too forgiving. It took the team losing to opposition with an outfield player in goal and mustering one shot, for them to start to display a bit of anger. And this after 5 years of dreadfulness. The local media has been compliant and complacent, colluding in the silence that clouds Plainmoor - the opposition, essentially quelled. The fact TUST failed to attract many people to commit to its initiative wasn't surprising. Not because people wouldn't but because what was the point? The club was about to be handed over to GI, therefore it wouldn't have made any difference. I think it would be different if it was TUST or die. To think around this time 5 years ago, we were 2nd in league 2, looking good to go up. I feared the worst when we messed up promotion but I never feared anything as bad as this. It feels all so unnecessary and had say Alan Knill never been appointed, we might have been flirting with the play-offs in League 2 this season. Who knows? Had David Phillips regime not come in and sacked Hargreaves for the hell of it, perhaps we'd be better off than we are now. But who knows? So many terrible decisions have marked the last 5 years and our current plight -in my view - is a result of those, rather than our geographical location and the local populace in general.
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Post by petef on Mar 1, 2017 12:41:24 GMT
At least this wasn't the final games of the season as happened when we were relegated from L1. Having said that I see little hope of survival this time around with a decidedly poorer squad than we finished with last season. Has Nicholson been hung out to dry and been told to work with what hes got? Do the freshly ratified owners really give a toss? Wont be attending NL South matches these last three seasons have been bad enough,poor value and low level entertainment Forrest Green matches being the exception. There's nothing left
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Post by simonb on Mar 1, 2017 16:27:06 GMT
Let's face it GI are the complete and utterly total pits! Seems their motto should be "say nothing, do nothing, achieve nothing"!
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Post by Rob on Mar 1, 2017 18:24:18 GMT
Let's face it GI are the complete and utterly total pits! Seems their motto should be "say nothing, do nothing, achieve nothing"! Alpine Joe likes that. Maybe we should all readjust our expectations similarly and offer polite applause when they next choose to speak. I'm sure they will soon. Surely. I am struggling to see how we will now get out of the bottom four again if we fail to beat Guiseley at the weekend. Got Leroy's autobiography today. A reminder of happier times for TUFC. So far a very good read.
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