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Post by petef on Dec 6, 2017 16:54:39 GMT
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chelstongull
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Post by chelstongull on Dec 7, 2017 9:12:11 GMT
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Post by petef on Dec 7, 2017 9:18:33 GMT
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Rob
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Post by Rob on Dec 7, 2017 18:03:43 GMT
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Post by Rob on Dec 7, 2017 18:08:08 GMT
I quite like the sound of 5 goals in 16 matches when he was out on loan at Bath. Sounds a confident lad. I think he is a starter, tbh. Maybe Davey to defensive midfield; Efete off; McGinty off in January; Gowling off. Who knows? Not me. It’s a strengthening of the squad, though. He sounds decent. Kuhl, with his Reading connections, will have a very strong idea as to whether it is a loan that can be extended after the initial period is up.
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Post by stig123 on Dec 7, 2017 21:14:40 GMT
Looks like a good deal. Guessing he will be a threat at corners and hopefully score a few goals.Bit of stature at the back always useful.
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Post by chelstongull on Jan 8, 2018 12:59:35 GMT
Loan has ended...
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Post by stig123 on Jan 8, 2018 16:50:14 GMT
Alex Daley also left the club. ...off to Boreham Wood. Not sure how many players we have left. Sinking ship? If the owner's intention was to get relegated and run the club into oblivion then the plan seems to be working swimmingly. Can a phoenix rise from the ashes?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 17:23:56 GMT
stig123 The Owners intention as we know, is primarily to get an 'events facility' built and get the income coming through from that as soon as possible. Think of it like the Brexit negotiations. It's currently a stand-off, with Clarke Osborne determined not to take the Theresa May position of making all the concessions while the opposition (Council with Militants backing) refuse to budge an inch on their side.
Clarke Osborne didn't buy a non league football team to pump money into, or lend it money for the fun of it, or because of any interest in football. Keeping him stuck with his wheels spinning, while getting nowhere, and the more intransigent he'll feel like behaving in return. All we can do is hope that the Militant backed Council position of playing Russian roulette with the club doesn't go disastrously wrong. Even if they do bugger it up between them, would their plans of compensating us for their daft brinkmanship by launching Red Star Gulls, really prove to be anything other than a 3 month wonder, played out in a local league, before it was quietly put to bed and forgotten about ?
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Post by simonb on Jan 8, 2018 19:05:36 GMT
CO’s track record on getting anything built is lacking. Sadly TUFC have been totally shafted by the charlatans of GI.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 20:26:28 GMT
simonb Poppycock ! CO only recently finished construction of a spanking new stadium for Swindon. Due to one or two issues he's having trouble 'erecting'....but he's no youngster, and I think allowances should be made. What often happens is that by 'anything', card carrying TUST militants mean just a couple of specifics: stadiums for clapped out sports such as speedway or greyhounds that might have been popular in Britain post-war, but are a relic of the days when the working class all wore cloth caps. So, and I'd genuinely like to know this, if CO doesn't build them then who are the companies responding to the demand for new Speedway or Greyhound stadiums ? Just because he might decide against it doesn't stop a thousand other construction companies sticking up new stadiums to meet the demand up and down the country for those quaint old sports of yore. CO with a grand total on 1 stadium for speedway, just waiting for the greenlight so that it can be put in place. Could we see the league table for construction of new Speedway stadiums please...which companies have built 10 or 20, which ones have built 2 ?? Face facts Simon, constructing for a bygone era would be a mugs game and financial madness. Although TUST militants with their ideological attachment to old Eastern Bloc thinking, naturally have some nostalgic wish to hark back to old times. The future is the 'Events Facility' catering for comfortable viewing of football, and other cash generating activities as well. Who most benefits if they can force Clarke Osborne out ? TUST are convinced it's them. Just that one last hurdle to overcome, that final owner to dislodge, and they can invite Corbyn down to perform a ceremonial kick off for the Red Star Gulls first match. The merciless attacks on Dave Philips and his board throughout their tenure were just the same. Shove them aside and we can get our Socialist mits on the club. Now again, the Militants think they can smell blood and try to ramp up the pressure. And as we know TUFC would continue playing at Plainmoor until the new stadium was ready for use, it wouldn't need to be built at breakneck speed anyway, with the use of your old home guaranteed by not only the original Masters protocols, but by the belt and braces clauses the Council would rightly insist on. Constructive ideas are always welcome Simon. But advocating the destructive TUST is just a total non-starter for the majority of fans and for the community of South Devon at large.
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Post by simonb on Jan 8, 2018 20:34:11 GMT
Suggest the Swindon project is more like Niagara than Viagra!
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Post by rjdgull on Jan 11, 2018 9:00:55 GMT
simonb Poppycock ! CO only recently finished construction of a spanking new stadium for Swindon. Due to one or two issues he's having trouble 'erecting'....but he's no youngster, and I think allowances should be made. No evidence though of the components, costs for their storage must be rising quite significantly now? The whole point of prefabrication is for quick and rapid construction on site. Any drainage or land issues should be sorted out before or at least in tandem with the prefabrication process and a land survey with bore holes etc should have been undertaken as part of the design process so that any issues can be fully incorporated into the scheme. The delays do not make any sense, why spend significant money on prefabrication and then leave the components in a costly storage facility for a couple of years and not sort out the alleged site issues? I leave the reader to draw their own conclusions.....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 11:07:23 GMT
rjdgull
As always, I think we'll need to hand over to Rob to tell us what's what with the Swindon stadium. I would just give a reminder of what we knew earlier: different parcels of land were owned by different people. The house building phase had not been completed successfully allowing the stadium erection phase to start. We know that drainage issues were a key part of that problem. Does that mean that the housing development still suffers from drainage problems that need to be corrected before the next phase can proceed, or that those involved with Phase One (the housing) buggered up the drainage to such an extent that their jerry building was so poorly executed that it's resulted in the G.I owned land now becoming so saturated to the extent that Phase 2 can't yet start until Phase 1 is rectified ?
I'd imagine that G.I would be being more than adequately financially compensated while others go about correcing their mistakes. As to the storage of the stadium parts, it would depend on the details of the contract with the company who have manufactured it, but I doubt Clarke would be silly enough to allow his company to be responsible for picking up the tab for continued storage if it's others making a mess of their part of this multi faceted building scheme. I'd think he's alive to the pitfalls of the construction business quite well enough to avoid that sort of beginners trap.
Without certainty on any number of issues, I think readers will struggle to draw any firm or accurate conclusions. An ill informed 'It's all G.I's fault' will bring momentary pleasure to some, but when asked on what basis they've reached that conclusion: 'Because I'm a TUST member' doesn't really cut it.
Let's all be guided by Rob's next factual and impartial report on the delays.
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Post by Rob on Jan 11, 2018 14:49:06 GMT
The last article discussing delay by the local Swindon newspaper I could find stated they had asked Osborne for comment, but that he had failed to respond. Looking back, that is not the first time such a report of his or GI’s failure to respond has appeared.
The same happened at Reading after a media friendly onslaught with promises that never came to fruition, with a bulldozer cherry on top. And, of course, nobody has heard a peep from him regarding TUFC recently since his Stadium 2020, local Board, fans forum, 5 year plan etc promises either.
Hope that helps. I’m sure you can knock up a spoof ‘Owner breaks his silence’ expose, AJ, before the Herald’s next Osborne exclusive that is followed by the now customary tumbleweed.
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