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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 13:12:59 GMT
I expected a win last evening as a good team does not suddenly become a bad team even with a number of injuries and we were due one. A very strong midfield of play makers it was always going to be a stern test for Solihull. Although the FA Trophy is a distraction withdrawing from it by conceding the quarter final is something that goes on in the amateur ranks of park football. It should not figure in the mindset of a professional club which wants to return to the Football League. Our club is not at a Micky Mouse level. Some may say we should turn up but throw the game. Not as easy as it sounds. These are professional players and it is not part of their mindset. There is also the important psychology of sport where winning becomes a habit and a winning mentality is engrained in the players. It would be nice to go into an important and tough game against Hartlepool with two wins on the bounce. Off the pitch of course at this time of markedly reduced income with no spectators allowed as we are now in the latter stages of the FA Trophy competition the prize money is not to be sniffed at. Our 11 points lead at the top of the table was always going to be eroded because of the number of games in hand other teams had. What was obvious though was that those clubs would not win all of their games. Notts County and Stockport County have managed to erode quite a few of their games in hand. Sutton United is on a good run and at this particular time look to be the main threat. The same remains though in that Sutton will not keep winning until the end of the season. We should be getting some of our very good players back soon so need to be concentrating on our own performances and results. That would set it up for a classic 6 pointer in mid Aoril when we visit Sutton, and with Sutton also having to visit Notts County at that time I can see us all having big smiles on our faces come the end of April ⚽️ Oh Setefano what have you done! I was thinking of promoting you but after the comments: Oops lunchtime...I’ll be back. Comments like: ‘Our club is not at a Micky Mouse level!’ Where the bloody hell do you think it is then? The reason why the club is at a Mickey Mouse level is because of people like you, Jon and ‘the others!’ Your all stuck in this time warp, living on past glories and never looking forward. Jon slags me off yet praises Timbo...a classic example. The days of ‘Good ol’ TUFC’ should be in the past if we want to compete at any level...even Micky Mouse level. Comments like: ‘Although the FA Trophy is a distraction’...it’s cost us bloody promotion! Had we been promoted, we’d have been looking at a million quid in the old Sky Rocket. (Oops, Rhyming Slang, no doubt Rob will find some racist undertones in there somewhere.) If we win the Grail, we’re looking at £60.000...shit, I’ve flown into this country with £30.000 on my person, just to show what a pathetic amount we’re playing for! Comments like:...oh what’s the bloody point, let’s just go to Woking have the shit kicked out of us be unable to put a team out against Hartlepool lose that and then at least Pluto and Popeye will come to their senses...fat chance. |
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Post by Rob on Feb 24, 2021 13:19:44 GMT
I am with Stefano on this one.  by all means rest those with niggles but surely any fan paying their money wants to see the team win. With do a new match thread tonight. Yeah, I’m no fan of that Competition having got underway this season for reasons already stated. And I seriously fear for our players at dirty Woking with the injuries we already have and always seem to pick up at their place. But we have to and will approach each game to win it. Pulling out of the competition at this stage is also rank amateurish, as stated. I’d like to see Wynter and Hall rested for Sheaf and Slough, for sure. And more minutes gotten into Boden’s legs. That’s probably in GJ’s thoughts, also. Maybe another returner can get some minutes eg: Little/Moxey. Koszela to start. I am presuming we will have to go to our youth ‘keeper for it. |
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Post by stefano on Feb 24, 2021 14:23:28 GMT
Yes I agree Rob & Rob (rjd). We should be looking to win at Woking albeit also tactically playing a different lineup. A bit confusing on the goalkeeper front as to whether the suspension is on Saturday or the next league game. We may end up with our youth team goalkeeper. Our main aim this season is promotion and we are the best placed team to achieve that being top of the league. I still think it is ours to lose as there is no point at all trying to add up wins for the clubs below us when it hasn't happened yet and indeed won't happen. Keep winning our games which would include winning at Sutton and we can celebrate promotion.
Promotion is the aim and I am confident will be achieved, but alongside that with the financial pressures forced upon the club the £105,000 total prize money for winning the FA Trophy would be a most welcome help. As well as being rather nice to win it of course. 😉⚽️
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Post by chelstongull on Feb 24, 2021 14:38:21 GMT
I am with Stefano on this one. by all means rest those with niggles but surely any fan paying their money wants to see the team win. With do a new match thread tonight. Yeah, I’m no fan of that Competition having got underway this season for reasons already stated. And I seriously fear for our players at dirty Woking with the injuries we already have and always seem to pick up at their place. But we have to and will approach each game to win it. Pulling out of the competition at this stage is also rank amateurish, as stated. I’d like to see Wynter and Hall rested for Sheaf and Slough, for sure. And more minutes gotten into Boden’s legs. That’s probably in GJ’s thoughts, also. Maybe another returner can get some minutes eg: Little/Moxey. Koszela to start. I am presuming we will have to go to our youth ‘keeper for it. Guess we should be thankful we’re not in the Setanta Shield or whatever it was called 😀 |
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Post by Rob on Feb 24, 2021 16:27:07 GMT
Setanta Shield!! Forgot about that. Now that was a bloody waste of time. The FA Trophy at least has a long and proud history as a Competition.
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Post by stefano on Feb 24, 2021 16:36:38 GMT
Setanta Shield!! Forgot about that. Now that was a bloody waste of time. The FA Trophy at least has a long and proud history as a Competition. Yes 1893 arguably which was the start of the FA Amateur Cup and went through until 1974 when it was discontinued when the FA did away with the distinction between professional and amateur. After that the top teams from the 'amateur' sector entered the FA Trophy, which had started 5 years earlier as a competition for professional clubs which were not in the Football League. A worthwhile competition to win (I wouldn't want anybody thinking I was just mercenary looking for the £105,000 total prize money)! 😉⚽️ |
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Post by plainmoorpete on Feb 24, 2021 17:25:14 GMT
Setanta Shield!! Forgot about that. Now that was a bloody waste of time. The FA Trophy at least has a long and proud history as a Competition. Yes 1893 arguably which was the start of the FA Amateur Cup and went through until 1974 when it was discontinued when the FA did away with the distinction between professional and amateur. After that the top teams from the 'amateur' sector entered the FA Trophy, which had started 5 years earlier as a competition for professional clubs which were not in the Football League. A worthwhile competition to win (I wouldn't want anybody thinking I was just mercenary looking for the £105,000 total prize money)! 😉⚽️ Prior to 1969 the only national cup competition that semi-professional non-league clubs could enter was the FA Cup. The FA Trophy was created to give those clubs a realistic chance of appearing in a Wembley cup final. The amateur clubs continued to play in the FA Amateur Cup until it was abolished along with amateur status in 1974. The replacement for the FA Amateur Cup is the FA Vase which was intended for clubs that had previously entered the FA Amateur Cup. So to be pedantic the FA Trophy has no tradition going back before 1969. |
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Post by stefano on Feb 24, 2021 17:33:54 GMT
You are well known for being pedantic plainmoorpete but notwithstanding that your posts are always interesting and informative. I did really say the same thing in my post. Of course the history of the FA Trophy does not go back before 1969 because that is when it started. It is though a national FA competition with over 50 years history. There are many well known names on the trophy so far. It is time we added ours 😉⚽️
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Post by plainmoorpete on Feb 24, 2021 20:36:52 GMT
You are well known for being pedantic plainmoorpete but notwithstanding that your posts are always interesting and informative. Why, thank you Stefano. Now from pedantic to tediously boring. Six clubs that we have met in the various levels of the National League in recent years have all been winners of the FA Amateur Cup; Dulwich Hamlet (4 times), Bromley (3 times), Oxford City, Barnet, Woking and Wealdstone. In addition to that three of the four constituent parts of Dagenham & Redbridge, namely Ilford, Leytonstone and Walthamstow Avenue have all won the FA Amateur Cup, Dagenham were beaten finalists in 1971. I'll get my coat....... |
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Post by stefano on Feb 24, 2021 21:17:07 GMT
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Post by Rob on Feb 24, 2021 23:01:45 GMT
Interesting. Thank you, Pete and Stefano.
I had thought the FA Amateur Cup a precursor. I believe a commemoration of Woking’s win in that Competition can be seen under a bridge as you enter the town.
I see it was against Ilford.
Interesting bit of the commentary for me after the Woking opening goal. That the scorer was Woking’s only ‘non-international’.
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Post by Jon on Feb 25, 2021 0:41:23 GMT
Bill Luscombe invented an FA Amateur Cup campaign for Torquay United by mixing up Town's 1910/11 FA Cup campaign and United's 1902/03 Devon Senior Cup campaign.
Amateur Cup football did come to Plainmoor in 1961 - courtesy of Chelston FC.
Home Park FC from Plymouth entered the very first Amateur Cup in 1893/94. After beating two Bristol teams, they ended up having to travel all the way to the North East to Stockton in the last 32.
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Post by rjdgull on Feb 25, 2021 16:42:38 GMT
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Post by register on May 23, 2021 17:44:36 GMT
We could say: ‘f**k the Grail’, (forfeit it in other words) and take a ten day rest before we take on Hartlepool...or...we could continue with the ‘Quest’ lose out to Sutton (words fail me) and yet again grab defeat from the jaws of victory! I don’t think we need to beat ourselves up at the moment, because no one could have predicted what was going to happen. Even if Albert Einstein and Steven Hawking got together, they could not have foreseen this: losing out to Sutton…impossible! We need to be strong now, and like Moses we need to go forth into the desert and multiply. Like the Knights Templar, we need to sharpen our swords and make our lances keen for the battle ahead. We almost had the Grail in our hands and we must not fail to grasp it next season, after many hardships we will win the Grail, and after the last great battle at Wembley we will hold the Grail aloft and praise it with great praise and we will fall to one knee and praise God with great praise. We must forsake all other distractions and forget about promotion (similar to this season then) and strive continually for the Grail. And when the final battle is over we will return to our homelands (Plainmoor) with the Grail, and with the booty from winning the Grail we will hire a Plumber to fix that leaking tap in the bog on the Popside, and hopefully the booty will be enough to cover the cost! So will you join me on the music thread and praise God with great praise for our outstanding good fortune. 😇 |
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by all means rest those with niggles but surely any fan paying their money wants to see the team win. With do a new match thread tonight.
