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Post by forevertufc on Jan 1, 2009 20:33:09 GMT
i will just answer the question - yes he does
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merse
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Post by merse on Jan 1, 2009 20:37:07 GMT
16 points behind Burton with 21 games left to go. No manager has had the financial or moral support that he has had. Yet we still find our team out played and thought so far by the likes of Burton. Dave Shaw: Who are these teams at the top who have outplayed and out thought us? Burton? - haven't met them yet. Histon? They salvaged a last gasp draw against us up there, we hammered them at Plainmoor. Crawley? Yes, all credit to them. Kiddie? Again, they've "done" us by a single goal twice................they were marginally the better side up there and down here they hung on like grim death. If Burton Albion's board ran their club on the basis you would have OUR directors run Torquay United, Nigel Clough would have been history with them a long time ago. He's had ten good years with them, a whole decade during which the club has been totally transformed from a rather deadbeat outfit in an old inadequate ground to a gleaming new stadium built with considerable input and assistance from local industry and the local authority the like of which OUR club could never dream of. His success on the field has been hugely important to that progress, yet YOU would have dumped him by now if you were the Chairman of that club. Says it all really doesn't it. There are those that gob off......... pub experts who haven't a clue of the reality of running a professional football club. Apparently you are incapable of taking on board that football is a sport in which one's opponents are doing their very best to STOP you achieving your goals on a weekly basis. Those that are involved in the game on a professional basis appreciate that fact and develop a healthy respect for those opponents. People like you turn out once in a while, go to the pub and get pissed; roll along to the ground and deliver your "expert" opinion that the BSP is but a "Pub League", a "crap"league; that the manager "has no bottle". I tell you what, YOUR attitude smacks of the Bateson mantra that held the opposition in such disrespect that he continually denied OUR club adequate training facilities, pre-match preparation and accommodation and allowed some managers to operate at a level of professional competency that is light years below the one that Paul Buckle operates at. I guess he saw League 2 as a "Pub League" too.
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Post by chelstongull on Jan 1, 2009 20:39:59 GMT
BSP is easily a League 3 (Div 5 old money) although i hope they never make them a proper league and leave it as 92. I would like to see the BSP made League 3 with two auto places and one up via the play offs and three down. The standard of the top ten or so in the BSP is the same as League Two - look at Exeter who are in the play offs with only a couple of additional players. All though I can't see the Football League and the teams agreeing to it!!
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Post by pikeygull on Jan 1, 2009 20:43:04 GMT
Burton are flying at this time, we do have to play them twice and now have two games in hand, no points are guaranteed from any of the games we have to play, they will have to be fought and won for by the team. Until we play them [glow=yellow,2,300]home[/glow] and away and play the two games in hand, we do not know where we really sit with them in the league. This could be the problem. It's the last game of the season. It will either be out of our hands by then or it could be the mother of deciders. Lets hope its the best case senario and WE have it all wraped up by then. I'm seriously considering going to the Burton game on Tuesday in favour of going to the Trophy match against Rushden the following Saturday. So come on who's up for it???
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Dave
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Post by Dave on Jan 1, 2009 20:48:54 GMT
pikeygull, I would have loved to have gone and given my support, as this is a really important game, sadly I will be working and as I'm the only one who does my job( no replacement) I can't get of work.
I really hope it does not come down to the last game of the season, just what a day that would be, still we have had last day of the season games before, that have ended in joy, so I'll take a last day must win, if that was all that was on offer.
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Post by bbcgull on Jan 1, 2009 21:32:39 GMT
BSP is easily a League 3 (Div 5 old money) although i hope they never make them a proper league and leave it as 92. I would like to see the BSP made League 3 with two auto places and one up via the play offs and three down. The standard of the top ten or so in the BSP is the same as League Two - look at Exeter who are in the play offs with only a couple of additional players. All though I can't see the Football League and the teams agreeing to it!! Agreed - can't seeit ever happening and thankfully too. i agree there is hardly any difference between the two now but it needs to stay 92 and them..so to speak!!! I think thje step up frm BSN and BSS as it is now would be quite big if that happened. And i would have to change the name of the TU92 Club!!!
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Post by petef on Jan 1, 2009 21:36:23 GMT
Quote from Merse.
"If Burton Albion's board ran their club on the basis you would have OUR directors run Torquay United, Nigel Clough would have been history with them a long time ago. He's had ten good years with them, a whole decade during which the club has been totally transformed from a rather deadbeat outfit in an old inadequate ground to a gleaming new stadium built with considerable input and assistance from local industry and the local authority the like of which OUR club could never dream of".
Merse you took the words right out of my mouth!
I would add that thankfully our board do not listen to such wonderful and knowledgable advice from the likes of the very remote Mr Shaw
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Post by tufc01 on Jan 1, 2009 22:46:32 GMT
16 points behind Burton with 21 games left to go. No manager has had the financial or moral support that he has had. [glow=yellow,2,300]Yet we still find our team out played and thought so far by the likes of Burton.[/glow] The Jan transfer window is now open. Does Buckle have the balls to make hard decisions and get rid of the dead wood and bring in players to at least guarantee a playoff spot? Or will he bottle it again? Getting out of this crap league this season is vital. Buckle have you got the Balls or not? Personally i think he will bottle it again. I hope i'm wrong, but on past evidence i doubt it. I expect the brown nosers will have a different spin tho. Dave Shaw, it must have really grated on you, having to wait nearly 3 months to put this garbage up. You really must have an agenda?? There isn't much more to add from what others have already said, so I'm just off to get myself micro chipped, before reading The Sun.
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Dave
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Post by Dave on Jan 1, 2009 22:48:34 GMT
We had better hope we go up, dread to think what will happen on the forum if we don't
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