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Post by Jon on Apr 18, 2023 20:22:14 GMT
I’d still take a point. Can’t see us scoring six and not letting in another one, or scoring seven and only letting one more in. Game on. 5-5?
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Post by chelstongull on Apr 18, 2023 20:26:19 GMT
I’d still take a point. Can’t see us scoring six and not letting in another one, or scoring seven and only letting one more in. Game on. 5-5? If it ends up at 5 all I’ll buy you two curries - if not you buy me one- seems fair to me. I bet Wrexham are licking their lips….
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Post by chelstongull on Apr 18, 2023 20:27:50 GMT
That’s Yeovil down…
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Post by petef on Apr 18, 2023 20:33:16 GMT
Its just a blip. We just need to win our last two and we'll be fine🤣🤣. Whatever the result and performance against a very good side tonight has nothing to do with our perilous position were virtually all but down because of oue failures over the last eight months. The run of false hope was fun while it lasted but thats all. Reckon a number of players were carrying knocks tonight so i will not blame them for this rout.
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Post by chelstongull on Apr 18, 2023 20:48:55 GMT
The lack of quality on the bench has been our main problem all season.
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Post by rjdgull on Apr 18, 2023 20:49:17 GMT
Possibly not the best value £9:50 I have spent! Need something against Wrexham now but they could become champions on Saturday.
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Post by Rob on Apr 18, 2023 21:11:27 GMT
I reckon 4 points will be enough.
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Post by hector on Apr 19, 2023 5:52:26 GMT
A tonking was obvious about as early as the first minute. They looked dangerous from the off and we looked bereft. We know how important an ageing Asa Hall is but it was underlined in this match. Chesterfield just were far superior and having watched them stuff us 5-1 twice (and both times looking as though they could easily have scored more if they wanted) it puzzles me why they aren’t nearer Wrexham/Notts County and are only just about tussling with Woking for 3rd place. Chesterfield could easily win the play-offs based on the way they played yesterday which would be slightly funny if Wrexham but more likely Notts County missed out when amassing well over 100 points.
If Hall is not back, then I think that’s it and we will be down. As much as a confidence boost 5 wins on the spin gives, an absolute thrashing like that does the opposite and any belief vanished last night. At best we might get a point at Altrincham but I wouldn’t be surprised if our relegation is confirmed on Saturday as Maidenhead could easily beat Barnet and I think York will beat Aldershot. All too little, too late and that false bit of hope will make us feel unlucky when actually relegation is well-deserved.
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Post by gateman49 on Apr 19, 2023 6:36:16 GMT
The lack of quality on the bench has been our main problem all season.[/ Must be a typo, delete bench, insert pitch
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2023 7:34:55 GMT
I said many moons ago that a relegation battle is just as intense as a promotion battle…and I was right!
In a few short days we go to a game where there is a possibility (unlike last night) of a win, and when that happens…
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Post by plainmoorpete on Apr 19, 2023 12:38:52 GMT
Possibly not the best value £9:50 I have spent! To be honest the Chesterfield performance was the best I've seen from any side this season, so I would say it was worth watching. What has frustrated me most about this season is the general poor quality of the teams we have played, including those in the play off places which shows how crap we actually are.
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Post by hector on Apr 19, 2023 20:29:56 GMT
Possibly not the best value £9:50 I have spent! To be honest the Chesterfield performance was the best I've seen from any side this season, so I would say it was worth watching. What has frustrated me most about this season is the general poor quality of the teams we have played, including those in the play off places which shows how crap we actually are. Chesterfield look bloody good against us in both games so I’d agree with you. Just looking at the table now and how unlikely it is we will stay up and then reflecting on what it has come to: that we cannot now even feel secure in the National League, the Conference, the Blue Square Premier - a league we ought to be embarrassed to even be in, let alone not be able to even stay in it. To be relegated out of it twice in 5 years is just unforgivable. How long before staying in the NLS is an achievement?
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Post by Jon on Apr 21, 2023 19:21:11 GMT
I never really expected get anything at Chesterfield. With eight games to go, I thought we would have to win six out of eight and thought that Chesterfield and Wrexham were the two we had no chance in. As it is, we will now need at least a point off Wrexham.
Is is not losing to good teams like Chesterfield that gets you relegated. It is losing to, or at least not beating, so many poor teams that has done for us.
Colclough and Dallas are two of the players that have impressed me most in this league when playing for Altrincham and Solihull. The kind of players I would love us to sign if we had the budget. Excellent players at this level, as are Mandeville and McCallum - so they made up a pretty scary front four.
We have got away with three at the back against poor teams despite Stobbs and Collins not really having the defensive qualities to play at wing back. We got badly found out by Chesterfield’s quality. We really needed Hall for his ability to drop back to become our fourth defender. Even a fully fit Lapslie and Dawson would not have given us that, but might have given us an effective barrier in front of the back three.
The usually reliable Lapslie had an absolute nightmare. I assume that he was not fit, but even that does not explain his constant passing to the opposition. Was his injury colour-blindness? He was so bad that I actually thought it was Ryan Hanson playing in a Tom Lapslie mask.
As the back three was overrun, we moved to a back four by bringing on Omar, but this just left two in centre midfield to be overrun. Evans is o.k.as the third “luxury” advanced central midfielder, but too lightweight to be one of a two.
With Nouble struggling to get in the game, the obvious move would have been to sacrifice him and go 4-3-3, even if the third midfielder was a choice of Wyatt or McGavin. That would have had the additional benefit of resting Nouble up for Altrincham were we really will need him firing on all cylinders. I am all for defending from the front and having players holding the ball in the opponents’ half, but we could not even get into the opponents’ half to hold the ball there.
In the end, we were very lucky to come out with just a 5-1 defeat. 8-0 would have been a better reflection of the game.
Chesterfield are a very good team and Notts County will have their work cut out to get past them in the playoffs.
A defeat not unexpected, but the size of it is so damaging. We had a chance of matching Maidenhead for goal difference if tied on points. That has all but gone.
Had Aldershot lost, or even drawn, they and York would have been damaging each other tomorrow to leave one or the other catchable. I fully expect Aldershot to roll over now and let York join them beyond our reach.
So the forlorn hope is that Maidenhead lose twice, we beat Alty and somehow scrape a point against Wrexham.
We really need Wrexham to win tomorrow, clinch the title and spend the week on the p*ss celebrating.
Even if they are very badly hung over, there is a hell of a gap in class to bridge.
We would need Lapslie, Hall and Dawson all fully fit to even get a foothold in the game. But if we don’t beat Alty, it won’t matter anyway.
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