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Post by petef on Feb 24, 2009 22:23:23 GMT
Matt Green to be dropped for Saturday.....wouldn't surprise me  Great come back but not promotion form by a long way, just two BSP wins since boxing day says it all for me. |
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Post by Dave on Feb 24, 2009 23:22:01 GMT
Why was he taken off, maybe to test his reaction? or to save him for Saturday, but swapping him for Stevens was not the change that should have been made. With Green left on we may just have got the win and then we may have seem the game a bit differently than we do now.
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Post by EmpireGull on Feb 25, 2009 13:08:32 GMT
Why was Green taken off - maybe another one of our manager's unique decision! Was it because he threw his toys out of the pram last week, was it because he did have a good game and given man of the match award? Or just because he is not a manager's favorite? Who knows. Maybe it just shows Mr Buckle's in-experience as a manager in tight situations? Are we going to get the same tactical decisions as last year when we do not know what to do, a last resort, a last throw of the dice? All I do see is a panic situation from the bench and not good manger's skills.......................
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Post by rjdgull on Feb 25, 2009 19:15:24 GMT
I don't really see the problem with Green being substituted after 84 minutes - why not bring on a nippy winger at the end of the match? I've seen Stevens score with his first touch after coming on this season  I will be surprised if Green doesn't start come Saturday! |
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Post by tufc01 on Feb 25, 2009 23:05:26 GMT
Why was Green taken off - maybe another one of our manager's unique decision! Was it because he threw his toys out of the pram last week, was it because he did have a good game and given man of the match award? [glow=yellow,2,300]Or just because he is not a manager's favorite[/glow]? Who knows. Maybe it just shows Mr Buckle's in-experience as a manager in tight situations? Are we going to get the same tactical decisions as last year when we do not know what to do, a last resort, a last throw of the dice? All I do see is a panic situation from the bench and not good manger's skills....................... They certainly looked OK last night. After Green scored he ran right to the Bench and straight up to Bucks, they celebrated the goal and shook hands/high fived. Also when Green went off Bucks clapped him off and gave him a congratulatory pat on the back. Could it be that these stories have been embellished by those that want to have another dig at Buckle?? |
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Post by Jon on Feb 25, 2009 23:36:11 GMT
Why was Green taken off - maybe another one of our manager's unique decision! Was it because he threw his toys out of the pram last week, was it because he did have a good game and given man of the match award? [glow=yellow,2,300]Or just because he is not a manager's favorite[/glow]? Who knows. Maybe it just shows Mr Buckle's in-experience as a manager in tight situations? Are we going to get the same tactical decisions as last year when we do not know what to do, a last resort, a last throw of the dice? All I do see is a panic situation from the bench and not good manger's skills....................... They certainly looked OK last night. After Green scored he ran right to the Bench and straight up to Bucks, they celebrated the goal and shook hands/high fived. Also when Green went off Bucks clapped him off and gave him a congratulatory pat on the back. Could it be that these stories have been embellished by those that want to have another dig at Buckle?? I think it's just that some people get so obsessive in theorising about what might have happened and who might have handled what badly that they go into a frenzy of brow-beating at the merest hint of a falling out. In the healthiest football clubs, people have rows and fallings out - they pick themselves up dust themselves down and get on with it - whilst keyboard warriors make mountains out of molehills. |
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Post by ealinggull on Feb 26, 2009 0:30:07 GMT
I think you'll find he was taken off for a sensible footballing reason - at that point we had Sill & Christie in the middle and Caryol on the other wing and our illustrious manager wanted further service into them to secure the wiunning goal
(and I heard Green got a bit of a knock)
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Post by pezzagull on Feb 26, 2009 12:44:27 GMT
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The point that no one seems to be adressing is why did Buckle not take off Sills? He was the worst forward on the park ; had the worst fist half that I have ever seen him play; and no one has mentioned that he was caught too slow on the ball for FGR's third goal!!!!!
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Post by rjdgull on Feb 26, 2009 15:07:10 GMT
Reply to Rjdgull The point that no one seems to be adressing is why did Buckle not take off Sills? He was the worst forward on the park ; had the worst fist half that I have ever seen him play; and no one has mentioned that he was caught too slow on the ball for FGR's third goal!!!!! Maybe Buckle thought that Sills would be able to capitalise more from the added service that Stevens would hopefully provide  It had to be one of the two and that was the tactical decision made for the tail end of the match. I thought it was a reasonable decision as opposed to a unique one, whether it was the right one is obviously debatable. Certainly not one of Sills better games but he had at least two good attempts on goal that may have gone in on another day. Not sure you can attribute blame to Sills for the third goal (unlike the school boy error from Wroe for the second) as forwards generally lose the ball regularly. It was a good pass to their forward and the nearest defender, Hodges was too slow to get across and at least pressurise their forward. |
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Post by pezzagull on Feb 27, 2009 11:36:28 GMT
Reply to Rjdgull The point that no one seems to be adressing is why did Buckle not take off Sills? He was the worst forward on the park ; had the worst fist half that I have ever seen him play; and no one has mentioned that he was caught too slow on the ball for FGR's third goal!!!!! Maybe Buckle thought that Sills would be able to capitalise more from the added service that Stevens would hopefully provide It had to be one of the two and that was the tactical decision made for the tail end of the match. I thought it was a reasonable decision as opposed to a unique one, whether it was the right one is obviously debatable. Certainly not one of Sills better games but he had at least two good attempts on goal that may have gone in on another day. Not sure you can attribute blame to Sills for the third goal (unlike the school boy error from Wroe for the second) as forwards generally lose the ball regularly. It was a good pass to their forward and the nearest defender, Hodges was too slow to get across and at least pressurise their forward. Yes but why not give Green the chance to play down the middle instead of wide in the channels?  Also Sills lost the ball for the FGR third goal near the half-way line but inside our half!!!! |
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Post by rjdgull on Feb 27, 2009 22:12:45 GMT
Yes but why not give Green the chance to play down the middle instead of wide in the channels? Also Sills lost the ball for the FGR third goal near the half-way line but inside our half!!!! Certainly agree, that Green should play down the middle and hopefully will start there against Oxford. In the context of the match I suppose it was a toss up between having Green's pace and Sills aerial ability getting on the end of the wingers crosses. Either way, IMO, would have been a reasonable tactical decision. Still think you are being a bit harsh on Sills, some good passing was still needed to get past our defenders. |
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Post by Dave on Feb 27, 2009 22:21:59 GMT
I think one of the reasons Bucks sticks with Sills is that he is used to defend corners and set pieces. Without Toddy we do lack any real hight to deal with the high balls that will come in.
I would still like to see Sills on the bench and play Christie with Green, I just feel that Christie has such a good touch and would set up far more for Green than Sills is able too.
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Post by jmgull on Feb 27, 2009 23:09:29 GMT
...Drop Sills To get the best out of Sills you need to play someone along side with some pace....as well as someone with anticipation of where his flicks are going to go. He is perfect in the role he plays for the side and Christie would be no replacement imo. Sills is, as you say very useful at defending set pieces but that is just a small part of what he brings to the table. He wins more than his fair share of headers againct the biggest and ugliest defenders in this league....when the ball goes up to him it rarely comes straight back, allowing us the opportunity to gain possesion in the opponents half, this is the crucial aspect here, our BSP standard players are not going to be able to pass it through other teams every time, like it or not the long ball up the front is always going to be a recurring theme at this level......when it comes straight back you are always going to be under pressure. Oh and there is also the small matter of 21 goals last season and 16 in 30 odd games this season......he may be having a lean time of late but he is most definitely getting in the right positions, and having chances, he will always score plenty at this level. Sills is, in my opinion, our most important player by quite a margin. |
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Post by rjdgull on Feb 27, 2009 23:10:25 GMT
You got to ask yourself then, are Woods and Hodges the best pairing at centre back? On the flip side, they have a goal between them compared to three for Ellis and Robertson in considerable less games! Seem to recall Robertson scoring against Oxford while on Setanta!
Would be interesting to see how the Green / Christie partnership works up front......
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Post by Dave on Feb 28, 2009 0:10:41 GMT
Justin, while I can't disagree with much of your reasoning for playing Sills upfront, I still would like to see Christie and Green start.I know some who have only seen Christie come on late into a game as a sub, have not thought he looked that good.
His first start for us, I felt he really looked a class act and while looking over weight a little, I still felt he had that bit extra in football control and thinking, I would go as far to say, more than all the other players out on the pitch. Balls played up to him, stuck to him and he layed off some great balls and was not afraid to turn and shoot.
He seems to be able to turn defenders so well and I firmly believe that Green would get more and better service from Christie, than he does from Sills. If Sills is the one to play, then we really need the height of Robertson to defend corners and keep Sills up the field.
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It had to be one of the two and that was the tactical decision made for the tail end of the match. I thought it was a reasonable decision as opposed to a unique one, whether it was the right one is obviously debatable.
