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Post by Swanny on Nov 8, 2008 18:20:38 GMT
The 2-0 score-line might look comfortable enough, but this match turned out to be very tough and credit to the team for getting there in the end. Crowd 2,275, and bearing in mind there were at least 300 from Evesham, this was a disappointing home turn-out. Sponsors MOTM Sills for his 2 goals.
First half was pretty cagey for the first 20-odd minutes, Evesham worked hard and closed down well and limited us to few chances. Tim Sills got the vital breakthrough heading in directly from a Nicholson corner on the right. This seemed to open the game up and it became a decent cup-tie. There was a niggly 10 minute spell when Woods retaliated and flicked his boot at an Evesham player and was booked. Then Thompson went for a 50-50 ball with their keeper and caught him, resulting in Evesham's keeper needing attention, and Thompson was booked. You did feel that Evesham were making the most of it when they got fouled and trying to get Torquay players into trouble. Evesham did have a decent long range shot just before half-time that Bevan tipped over well. 1-0 half-time.
Second half Evesham took the game well to Torquay and there was some good sustained pressure from Evesham at times. The ball was often in dangerous areas, however Woods and Hodges coped well all afternoon, and Bevan again was solid. Torquay were mainly playing on the counter-attack and it is a long time since I remember Torquay under such pressure.
The main turning point in the second half was when Evesham were awarded a penalty but hit the spot kick wide. Torquay were unlucky when following a goal-mouth scramble, Carayol scored, but the goal was disallowed after the linesman flagged for something ? Torquay put the game beyond Evesham thanks to Nicky Wroe's pass from the left-wing behind the defence which found Sills. Sills hit the ball low and firm and was deflected from a defender into the net. At 2-0 Torquay regained better control of the game and Evesham did not threaten much after that. Benyon and Stevens came on late for Thompson and Carayol respectively.
So 2-0 and the Gulls go marching on. This was a tough match against an impressive Evesham performance particularly in the second half. But Torquay are made of pretty stern stuff this season and dug in well and won in the end.
As for performances today. I think the defence came out with a lot of credit particularly Woods and Hodges. Bevan again showed he can make vital saves and is commanding on the whole. Hargreaves and Wroe did not shine as much as they normally do today and struggled at times to win the midfield battle, but Wroe made some delightful passes. Carayol showed plenty of tricks but his end product was inconsistent. Dsane worked hard on the left-wing but his finishing was disappointing. Sills finished his goals well and won his share of battles with their defence. Thompson was quiet today.
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Post by Dave on Nov 8, 2008 18:27:12 GMT
Thanks for your report swangull, I do need to give up trying to do them
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Post by Jon on Nov 8, 2008 18:37:23 GMT
We never really got going but it's case of job done in horrible conditions.
We seemed to rejig the side in the second half with Thompson dropping to centre midfield, Wroe playing wide left and Dsane up front. Not sure why - and it reduced Wroe's effectiveness. I know we had a battle on our hands, but what I've liked about the 4-2-3-1 is that when things get tough Thompson can join in midfield and allow the wingers to stay wide - making a 4-3-3. I would rather have seen that than the 4-4-2 with Wroe pushed wide.
Can't moan though - banana skin dodged which is more than Exeter could do. ;D ;D ;D
Bring on Curzon Ashton in round 2, Man United in round 3 and then Chelsea in round 4.
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Post by petef on Nov 8, 2008 18:43:55 GMT
A pretty acurate assesmet of the match Swangull , Evesham were really up for it looking a much better outfit than Chipstead did a couple of weeks back. It could have been a totaly diffrent story if the pen had gone in when we were under alot of pressure particularly from long high balls and Bevan and the central defenders once again did a good job. Would realy like to see him here for the rest of the season at least. Once again thank goodness we have Tim Sills most of our forward play and best bits around the box are centred around him and also Caryol is starting to really look the part but is the sort of player supporters need to be patient with and alow him the odd mistake, players with his ablity and style can win us many matches.
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Post by Jon on Nov 8, 2008 18:44:06 GMT
I thought Curzon Ashton were the same level as Evesham, bit on double checking they are actually one step lower - and only mid-table in that! So they are more of a Paulton or a Bridgwater than a Tiverton or a Truro! ;D
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Post by Dave on Nov 8, 2008 18:48:46 GMT
Not that we will ever have one on here, but for one day only I wish I had a banter board
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Post by rjdgull on Nov 8, 2008 18:59:24 GMT
I thought it was a workmanlike performance that did enough to win the game without hitting the heights in the last half dozen games or so. Couldn't believe that we had three yellow cards by half time as it certainly wasn't a dirty game. The Evesham players were certainly making the most of any contact and the initial dislike upon seeing their kit was confirmed by their actions in the match! A case in point was when the referee awarded a free kick when Woods was defending a goal kick to just outside the penalty area. After the ref blew his whistle the Evesham player came up and walked into Woods and then went down as if he had been pole axed Maybe Woods did flick his boot (and that's all it was ) but it was a blatant and bl**dy disgraceful attempt to get a player sent off. If anyone standing behind the lino on the popular side could explain why the second goal was off side, I would be interested to know. Also, would be interested to read a report explaining their penalty decision.
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Post by Dave on Nov 8, 2008 19:05:38 GMT
I was with tufc01 for the second half and he felt It was not a penalty, It was hard to see with so many players In the box, It did appear to me It stuck a hand, but not really sure who's hand It was.
If they had converted that one, It could have been an even tougher second half, I did think he would score, you should at least hit the target from the spot and I think once they had missed the chance to get an equalizer, they offered less and less after that.
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Post by tufc01 on Nov 8, 2008 19:35:56 GMT
I was with tufc01 for the second half and he felt It was not a penalty, It was hard to see with so many players In the box, It did appear to me It stuck a hand, but not really sure who's hand It was. If they had converted that one, It could have been an even tougher second half, I did think he would score, you should at least hit the target from the spot and I think once they had missed the chance to get an equalizer, they offered less and less after that. I must admit i did feel their penalty was a bit Harsh. I wasn't overly impressed with the Ref's performance today. I felt he could have dealt with their play acting a lot quicker, which would have forced them to cut it out. Hope the Stewards arrested the sniper in the crowd because that is the only thing that could have caused their keeper to go to ground like that, then roll over 4 times. Very 'Drogba esque'. I agree with the assessment that it was a workman like performance. For me the company was better than the game. Cheers Dave.
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Post by merse on Nov 8, 2008 19:37:37 GMT
I was with tufc01 for the second half and he felt It was not a penalty, It was hard to see with so many players In the box, It did appear to me It stuck a hand, but not really sure who's hand It was. That was the ref (Darren Sheldrake) we had at Crawley who allowed himself to be influenced and bullied by Paul Raynor from the technical area and gave an incorrect penalty against Lee Mansell that day....................Mansell's high foot did not connect as the referee indicated and an indirect free kick for dangerous play should have sufficed. The physical contact on that occasion was forehead to cheek bone, but he indicated he had penalised the high challenge. I don't think we can complain about getting a result without much aesthetic pleasure in a cup tie. At the end of the day, we are in the draw for round two and they are not; and that is the sole aim of the exercise!
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Post by Dave on Nov 8, 2008 19:41:58 GMT
Thank you tufc01 I also enjoyed your company during the second half, still I just noticed thanks to your post, that I had not reset your best post Of the week score to zero, so despite those kinds words I have just done It sorry mate.
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Nov 8, 2008 19:42:59 GMT
Well, that was another tough one!
Whilst Bevan rarely had a save to make of any note (perhaps the very end of the first half when he tipped a long-shot over for corner) they did stretch us at times - particularly during the second half. Getting the second goal killed the game (as you would expect), but had they scored that penalty (which I thought was fairly dubious, sounded like Bucks did as well) then it could have been a different story.
Their keeper had a couple of saves to make, but nothing out of the ordinary. All in all it was a result that we had to grind-out against a team that did well at times and seemed streets ahead of Chipstead. There have been several teams that have come unstuck today by opposition well below them, so it was a relief to go through.
At times we seemed to lose composure - they wre very dogged in thir takling and their approach to launch the ball route-one in the second half with the wind behind them seemed to get us doing the same. Still,anything that they did, we could do better and the likes of Carayol, Sills and Roscoe caused them so many problems down the channels - Sills especially gave their centre-halves a torrid time and it was great to see him get another brace.
It was sweet when the keeper got caught-out by the deflection for the second goal - nice to see cheats do not prosper...... Their niggling tackles and attempts to slow the game-down by obstructing our free-kicks and throwing / kicking the ball away was to be expected (although the referee could have done something about it) but their play-acting in the first half was discrageful - think back to Droylesden but far less convincing. This cheating was to draw the referee to book our players - something that I hate in football, so unlike the Chipstead match I do not go away with any good feeling towards their team whatsoever.
The similarities with the excellent form we had in the first half of last season is that Sills is proving such a bloody handful for the opposition, the wingers are causing immense problems for the opposition full-backs and we are doing the business very solidly. I feel that there is more "flair" than the matches I saw last season, but you expect that of a team on such an excellent run.
It's also another £20k in the bank for winning through to the 2nd round - certainly something not to be sniffed at.
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Post by andygulls on Nov 8, 2008 19:46:57 GMT
If you go on a long unbeaten run there will be a game or two in which you do not play well but get the result anyway. Today was one of those games. As others have pointed out central midfield struggled to get into the game today. Hargreaves in particular was below par and for large chunks Thompson and Wroe were as well. No one gave up fighting though and the result was justly deserved against a team it was difficult to like. In my view Evesham were not a good side and on another day we might have taken full advantage. In the event we were fortunate that they could not capitalise on what looked like an interesting penalty award. Money in the bank, which is just as well given the very disappointing level of home support.
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Post by jamie on Nov 8, 2008 20:53:40 GMT
So, here’s the thing, I don’t do match reports. I don’t understand stats or positioning or 442 or any of that nonsense. That may explain why I never comment (or at least very rarely) on the actual way we play (other than to say we where great or hopeless!)
But I did promise I would give this a go, so here goes............... The day started well. I had to go to scabby abbot (i am allowed to say that because I was brought up there) I did my usual thing of trying to count how many tufc shirts I see on the morning of a matchday (usual none!) (remember Chelsea away shirts don’t count!) Today was special, a real treat, whilst travelling through kingskerswell I spotted a little old lady on the way into church wearing a tufc scarf. Fair shout sweatheart. You are a star!
So on to the game...................I managed to chat to an Evesham director before the game who told me this really is the big one for them. The previous biggest game being the final of the amateur cup in 1923 (? Lost to London corinthiens). He was gracious about the welcome tufc had offered them today.
Minutes silence next.........................or not ? What happened? We were told it was going to but then nothing. Any ideas anyone? I can’t do a minuted commentary so I will just document what I saw .................. early on Evesham gave it their best, pressing for an early goal with mansell busy at the back needing to head back to keeper in first minute. Evesham fans were in good form singing “shall we sing a song for you?” tufc responded with a rousing chant of “yellow army” which went on to the family end as well.
The game carried on in a scrappy style. A few good chances, most notable a ball picked up in midfield by Thompson laid on to carayol and the shot held by keeper.
My delightful son is getting bored at this point and announces that for Christmas he wants a pair of self designed signatured boots! (only £100 apparently!) Having got over this bombshell I am disturbed to hear Vinny (he is a member of this site) announce that he only has “two little things”. I shall go no further!
Tufc pushed on, most chances via the Thompson – carayol route but the keeper was picking up any crosses. Nicholson corner was good with woods hitting just wide of the left stick, sills had a clear header which was held by keeper. Evesham had a few chances but to be fair they seemed to think that the goal was around row Z.
At this point I did my usual trick of playing “spot the look alike” in the crowd. Unfortunately Lemmy from Motorhead (there is one for the teenagers) was not there today (you must have seen him in the family stand pushing a friend in a wheelchair?). There were however some real finds today. One of the stewards in the family stand was a spit for a little Britain character (I can’t possible say which one!) there was also a Lewis Hamilton stood in the far end of pop stand.
The game continued with chances from both sides. A few “ping pong” chances from sills and dsane were saved or went wide. Evesham hit row z a few times. Dsane took a beautiful 30 yard chance but it was saved. The driver of WF54WPD was called twice before the police threatened to hang, draw and quarter him. (come on mate – don’t block a garage, you give us all a bad name)
Evesham sang a rather amusing ditty of “sh*t ground no fans” but then moved on to the “where’s your caravan” aimed at Hargreaves (boring!) Hargreaves concedes free kick which leads to nothing and I am briefly distracted by a lady wearing leopard skin gloves (how camp am I for a straight bloke!) We all laugh as the news comes through that the greasy ones are losing one nil!
Ok ........ so now the good bit, One nil tufc (but the bad bit was I was in the loo!) It was however carayol on right which went out for a corner and sills headed the Nicholson kick.
The first half continued with a few chances on both sides, Evesham generally shooting high or wide (although dsane also hit one which must have ended up in cary park)
There was a bit of handbags with sills and their keeper as well as their number 10 going down on the edge of the box resulting in woods getting a yellow. I am also fairly sure Thompson got a yellow? For a challenge on goalie. Not sure why though i was a long way away. Generally fans around me thought this was harsh but I cant comment.
Half time Highlights included 6 times world champion ray reardon drawing the 50/50 (i was about 3000 away but the crowd was only 2000 and something? How does that happen? The city score is read out the a resounding cheer.................ha ha.
Second half
Plenty of “cheat cheat cheat “chants at the keeper. Evesham gave it a good go, there were a few good chances but generally they were kept at bay. Mark Owen (yes you heard me right) had a good shot saved by bevan. Nicholson put dsane through and mansell took a cracking shot which hit the side netting “we thought we had scored “ was on my mind.
The chips arrived.
City go 2 nil down ha ha!
Hargreaves shot saved by keeper. Carayol scores but ruled offside. No idea why. I can only assume Sillls or Hargreaves. There was a comedy moment when the Evesham keeper passed to sills only for sills to take a shot. Evesham pushed up and got three corners but didn’t really make much of them. Then came the penalty. I wont even try to argue whether it was or not, I couldn’t tell. Either way it didn’t count because it was placed wide of the left post. Happy days!
I was a bit worried at this point. We had stopped controlling the midfield and were allowing them into the game more and more. We became more settled as the second half continued. Dsane and woods narrowly missed chances, carayol hit a sweet volley just wide.
The second goal (which I did see) came about from a Rowe pass which went behind Carayol for sills to follow up and place (after a defection I think?)
City are losing 3 nil................................oh joy of joys
Subs were used in last few mins, Benyon came on for Thompson and Stevens on for Carayol. There was some fun at the end with stevens and sills taking on a few defenders each but the shot was wide. There were a few more row z style shots from both sides and as the rain came down in buckets the ref blew up (I have always wanted to say that!)
I was a bit disappointed at the end to hear so many tufc fans booing the Evesham team. I don’t think they were dirty or cheated to such a degree that they deserved some of the vitriolic abuse that was aimed at them from the tufc fans by the tunnel at the end. I went over there with louie to clap both sides off. I was genuinely surprised, and also maybe a touch naive?
MOM was sills. Mine would have been Carayol. I think he was involved in everything. Attendance was 2275.
Not a bad afternoon out, a few beers and a laugh with friends. The Evesham fans were good natured and we took time to give them some programmes, ticket stubbs and a team sheet to give to the kids after the game. I am not sure of the actual away attendance but I would guess at 300 ish?
Onwards and upwards, well done tufc, a potential banana skin put to bed and let’s hope for leeds in the second round .
Oh yes and city lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( I have just had a text from a friend who supports city...............There was only one word with four letters.....I will let you guess what is was!)
Note: Any inaccuracies within this report are entirely deliberate and are not proof of the fact that really I am a plank. Thanks for reading.
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Post by tufc01 on Nov 8, 2008 20:57:15 GMT
If you go on a long unbeaten run there will be a game or two in which you do not play well but get the result anyway. Today was one of those games. As others have pointed out central midfield struggled to get into the game today. Hargreaves in particular was below par and for large chunks Thompson and Wroe were as well. No one gave up fighting though and [glow=yellow,2,300] the result was justly deserved against a team it was difficult to like. In my view Evesham were not a good side[/glow] and on another day we might have taken full advantage. In the event we were fortunate that they could not capitalise on what looked like an interesting penalty award. Money in the bank, which is just as well given the very disappointing level of home support. I agree, i thought they were a poor side, especially in the first half. They were guilty several times of just blindly hoofing the ball to no-one in particular. I have to disagree with those that thought Evesham were better than Chipstead. Chipstead came and at least tried to play football, they also played with some passion, didn't play act, roll around the floor or try and get our players booked/sent off. I don't think any of our supporters at the Chipstead game begrudged Chipstead their goal and we all loved their goal celebrations. Contrast that with the general feeling of loathing towards the Evesham players that was apparent today, which was highlighted with the reaction after they missed their penalty and whenever their goalie touched the ball. Chipstead captured the whole essence of the FA Cup 2 weeks ago, i didn't feel that occurred today with Evesham. The result was the main thing and a good home draw again in the next round would be good.
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