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Post by stuartB on Jul 29, 2010 22:01:33 GMT
sounds like a good idea but I think i might struggle to convince the Mrs. Perhaps a Merse, Dave, Barty, Chris, Jon, chelston, Andy, Kev etc etc cornish weekend could be arranged to photograph, discuss, debate, argue, ground review could be arranged  ..............and no sneaking off to King Arthur's bloody castle eh? doh! |
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Post by merse on Jul 29, 2010 22:09:49 GMT
That's more like it Barty, but you're a wicked sod ~ they're all Scottish grounds aren't they? Here's my first attempt: 1: Ist Hampden Park 2: 2nd Hampden Park 3: Same place as 2 but now Cathkin Park (Third Lanark FC) 4: Lesser Hampden (Queens Park FC) 5: Shawfield (Clyde FC) 6: Easter Road (Hibs) 7: Love Street (St Mirren) 12: Raydale Park (Gretna) What absolutely brilliant picturres!
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Post by stefano on Jul 29, 2010 22:45:07 GMT
Here we are then, back by popular demand. Apologies in advance for you having to wait for the answers but I'm away for a while and won't be spending too much time in front of a keyboard until the middle of the week. Consequently, no rush... Great photos Barton but I really have no idea! I see Merse has had a go, is he close? I'd probably have a fiver on him! (each way if I knew what that meant!)  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2010 8:24:42 GMT
Great photos Barton but I really have no idea! I see Merse has had a go, is he close? I'd probably have a fiver on him! (each way if I knew what that meant!) He's made a strong start. Train to catch, back next week..... (and thanks to Jon for the "players who didn't play") |
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Post by westhamsallie on Jul 30, 2010 12:25:22 GMT
Number 6 looks more like Firhill?
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Post by merse on Jul 30, 2010 19:35:36 GMT
Number 6 looks more like Firhill? Actually no 6 is Celtic Park. nos 7&8 are Both Firhill Park (Partick Thistle) ~ the canal system around the old style stadium in the aeriel shot brought it home to me in the end and that pediment in the centre of the main stand wall is surely Firhill. From then on I'm struggling except for my stab at no12 trying Gretna's old ground and that no 13 looks quite fascinating! |
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Post by Budleigh on Jul 30, 2010 20:08:12 GMT
For my 40th birthday I was asked where I'd like to go to celebrate... I could've chosen pretty much anywhere in the world.
I chose Glasgow.
'Why', I was asked. Exactly...
But to Glasgow we went!
No.5 is a real treat... This ground, Rosebery Park, was closed for many years due to contamination and Merse was nearly right as it is very close to Shawfield, previously home to Clyde (I walked it in less than two minutes or so). Junior team Shawfield FC played here with Frank McLintock playing for them for a number of years.
The authorities boarded it up tightly and put huge signs around the outside warning of the dangers of the contamination to anyone entering the ground. So being me I found a gap in the wall and popped in for a look. Hasn't seemed to have done me any harm!
The houses to the right have now been knocked down as part of the Oatlands regeneration scheme and a green space put in it’s place which basically goes all the way to the River Clyde. The ground itself has been demolished and a road, the A730, now runs through it.
No.10 is a magnificent ground, or was as it's mostly overrun by weeds and trees growing through the terracing, and is called Tinto Park. It is home to the once mighty junior club Benburb and is only a hundred yards or so from Glasgow Rangers' Ibrox.
No.11 is Greenfield Park, home to Shettleston FC
No.12 is just around the corner from Partick Thistle's ground and is the home of Maryhill FC, a quite strange little place called Lockburn Park and not far from the place that has been discussed earlier, the site of the the first Scotland v. England international. (And near to one of the world's great restaurants, 'No.1 Devonshire Gardens'. Now that was worth going to Glasgow for...)
No.13 has also just been demolished and a new ground built 'over-the-brow', this being Petershill Park, home of Petershill FC, also a once mighty Junior club.
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Post by merse on Jul 30, 2010 20:35:26 GMT
That's brilliant and so typical TFF Bud! So they're ALL Glasgow grounds and no 9 is therefore Newlandsfield Park, the best of all the Junior Football grounds in Scotland I would venture, and home to Pollock FC................."jigsaw" complete! ;D
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Post by merse on Jul 30, 2010 21:03:38 GMT
For my 40th birthday I was asked where I'd like to go to celebrate... I could've chosen pretty much anywhere in the world.
I chose Glasgow.
'Why', I was asked. Exactly... indeed, a fabulous city for all sorts of reasons but for football heritage; the very best. Having walked around the evocative old Cathkin Park and visited both Lesser Hampden, Hampden Park and the Scottish National Football Museum within that stadium; my big regret is that I haven't been "Junior Ground Hopping" in that city. The only time I went to Ibrox was in 1970 when it was still in it's old oval configuration and flanked by a bevy of small Junior Football stadiums and a couple of dog tracks! There's a fabulous city panorama at the top of Renfrew Street which runs parallel to Sauciehall Street from where you can look out over Fir Hill Park, Lochburn Park ;and over the River Clyde to Ibrox. How do I know that? We once stayed as a group of CGs in the fabulous Rennie Mackintosh Hotel ~ a veritable shrine to the great Art Deco guru, Charles Rennie Mackintosh.................what a gaff and reasonably priced too! |
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Post by Budleigh on Jul 30, 2010 21:18:22 GMT
A few shots from the '40th' trip.... No.2 & 3: The terracing at the second Hampden Park, now New Cathkin Park formerly home to Third Lanark  No.10: Tinto Park, home to Benburb FC with trees growing through the terracing and the large covered terrace on the far side.  No.13: The dugout and part of the large terracing at Petershill, now demolished  The rear of the greyhound scoreboard at Shawfield, previously home to Clyde, but not the home of Shawfield FC (Not in the quiz but mentioned by Merse!)  As a footnote to those who may not realise, but junior football in Scotland isn't for youngsters but is the term used for the higher reaches of non-league. The Scottish Junior Football Association was formed in 1886 to bring together all the junior football bodies in existence under one umbrella. |
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Post by westhamsallie on Jul 30, 2010 21:34:52 GMT
Number 6 looks more like Firhill? Actually no 6 is Celtic Park. nos 7&8 are Both Firhill Park (Partick Thistle) ~ the canal system around the old style stadium in the aeriel shot brought it home to me in the end and that pediment in the centre of the main stand wall is surely Firhill. Quite right Merse. I was actually referring to 8, not 6 - serves me right for trying to do this surreptitiously at work with the pictures only open in a tiny window!!! I recall driving around Firhill looking for somewhere for Kev to "gain access" to take some ground shots a while back! There were even a couple of lads fishing in the river round the back! Hasn't changed much since that photo was taken! |
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Post by merse on Jul 30, 2010 22:17:27 GMT
I recall driving around Firhill looking for somewhere for Kev to "gain access" to take some ground shots a while back! There were even a couple of lads fishing in the river round the back! Hasn't changed much since that photo was taken! I think that waterway is actually the Forth & Clyde Canal. Maryhill, the area in which Partick Thistle are based; was once known as "The Venice of the North" ~ mind you, there are "Venices of somewhere" all over the world. Although you say the ground hasn't changed much, like many old Scottish grounds; it has undegone a change in configuration from oval to rectangular and it was in fact in that complex that the CGs once took part in the annual Queens Park FC end of season tournament ~ although the year I joined in, it was held at Cowcuddin to the south of the city but was won in fact by Partick Thistle! |
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Post by merse on Jul 31, 2010 8:11:57 GMT
I think that waterway is actually the Forth & Clyde Canal.
Maryhill, the area in which Partick Thistle are based; was once known as The Venice of the North What links a former landmark building not far from Maryhill and another landmark building in Paignton? |
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Post by merse on Jul 31, 2010 12:22:05 GMT
I can't ever see an image of Shawfield without thinking about "Fearless" Freddie Williams the legendary Glasgow bookmaker who not only lost a million pounds to the equally fearless gambler and race horse owner JP MacManus at Cheltenham Racecourse in 2006, but followed that up by getting relieved of a further £70,000 in a gun point aggravated robbery as he drove back to his hotel. Even as an old man, he was never afraid to stand toe to toe with the biggest of betting ring gamblers and take his medicine whenever he had to hand over the winnings. I once spotted him on a pitch at Newbury Races far away from Glasgow and on a dark winter's afternoon and felt "honour bound" to have a bet with him ~I lost, but I had lost it to the great Freddie Williams and it didn't hurt so much! Just as he would take on the big hitters he would take your £2 bet too and he was often the only bookie standing at Shawfield Dog Track where he loved to banter with the Glasgae' punters. Kipper slipped off for a bit of Saturday lunchtime dog racing at Shawfield when we were at the Queens Park Football Tournament once and returned with lurid tales of there only being thirty to forty punters there and only one bookie.....................I bet it was Freddie and they even had an "Afghan Race" as part of the card according to Kip, and no doubt Freddie would have all them expertly priced up! He died relatively young at the age of 65 after a typically exhausting day standing in the afternoon rain of Ayr Racetrack and then back at Shawfield in the evening. Those legendary bets of JP's by the way were as follows:
£100,000 at 6/1 on Reveillez ~ won!
£5,000 each way at 50/1 on Kadoun ~ won! They say Freddie had a habit of looking his client in the eye and assessing immediately whether or not he would be more than likely paying him out at the end of the race and hence the need to "lay that bet off" pretty smartish i.e. have a punt on it himself somewhere else.........................I can't say he fixed me with that stare for a fiver at Newbury that afternoon! 
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2010 19:10:09 GMT
Sorry to hear about Merse's troubles - all the best, mate. Well done to all for solving my Glaswegian puzzle - I suspected Budleigh might come up trumps! What links a former landmark building not far from Maryhill and another landmark building in Paignton? My thought is of the link between the one-time Singer sewing machine factory near Clydebank and Oldway. And, with all this talk about Partick Thistle, would you believe that I saw them at Annan Athletic this afternoon in the first round of the Scottish League Cup? 1-0 to the Jags with a late goal. They dominated the game but Annan defended well without ever looking like scoring. The game was decided by the "name" player on the pitch, Simon Donnelly (ex-Celtic, Wednesday and Scotland). A crowd of just over a 1,000 with around 400 down from Glasgow. Posting this from Newcastle and I can't remember my Photobucket password so you'll need to settle for this Geograph link for a picture of Annan's ground: www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1221445Annan is a small town just a few miles over the border, a 75-mile drive for us today along the A69. Turn left at Gretna whom Annan replaced in the Scottish League in 2008. We actually passed Gretna's ground which is now used by the reformed Gretna FC 2008 who had a friendly against Whitley Bay this afternoon. Gretna is a rather different settlement to Gretna Green and owes its development to a massive WW1 munitions factory which spread along the shores of Solway Firth (which, in turn, had all sorts of implications for the licensing trade in the Carlisle area.) Alas we didn't have time for the Devil's Porridge exhibition (can anyone suggest what that may have been about?) although we arrived in Annan in time for a more than decent plate of haggis and chips at the Cafe Royal. |
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