keyberrygull
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Post by keyberrygull on Jun 7, 2010 13:09:29 GMT
I bet you love Maradona `eh Merse, never called him anything did you? B0llocks, get off your high horse before someone pushes you off!  No, I detest him as an individual, a cheat and a drug abuser. His nationality has nothing to do with it and I don't resort to using abusive terms for that nationality. The point I'm making and you miss is that international tournaments are nearly always a celebration of different cultures and hugely enjoyable and that atmosphere is not best served when idiots come along and show a loathing and intolerance to cultures other than their own. Ask anyone who has taken part either as a competitor or spectator, and they will verify what I say. Any issues or rivalries I have as an Englishman with (say) Scotland (not that we ever play them in anything serious anymore) Germany or Argentina are purely football issues or rivalries. Nothing more, nothing less. I've always hugely enjoyed myself in Scotland and Germany and would love to visit Argentina. I was in the Costa Brava/Barcelona region during the 1986 World Cup when Thatcher was at war with Galtieri, that didn't mean that I and other English fans with a bit of intelligence and reasoning couldn't walk side by side with Argentinians to matches, drink in the same bars or eat in the same restaurants despite the best efforts of The Daily Mail and it's readership of bigots, The Sun and it's own rather thick and juvenile readership to spoil the occasion. I was in Dresden three years ago, it didn't mean I went around humming "The Dambusters" like some Sun reading moron ~ if I had I would have expected to be have been ostracised (that's nothing to do with big birds Aus, so don't get excited) and I very much doubt that when Stefano lived and worked in Italy he went around addressing them as "Dirty Cheating Spinks"Those with phobias of other cultures should stay at home and swear at the telly. You can just about make out Merse on the Video footage. Top left hand corner about 5 rows in. |
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merse
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Post by merse on Jun 7, 2010 14:11:57 GMT
October 13th, 1993: Etched in my mind forever as the day I stopped following England abroad and precisely because of the idiots you portray on that footage! That occasion in Rotterdam was the most degrading and embarassing day of my life, a day when I was ashamed to be an Englishman abroad ~ and the absolute rock bottom our team had sunk to under Graham Taylor was only a small part of the problem. Despite "hiding out" in Belgium until the very last minute, it was impossible to avoid the World War 2 Glory hunters who are an afront to their grandparents, and in the cases of some of them; their parents. The fascists and National Front were everywhere and it seemed like a West Ham/Millwall Fiesta with all the usual loonies from Stoke City, Carlisle and Manchester thrown in for good measure. Despite avoidance of wearing colours, keeping schtumm and generally trying to be a good guest and respect the Dutch I still managed to get the arse of my jeans ripped out by a police dog on the end of a twenty metre chain and it was a bloody good job I lost my bottle and tried to turn and run or the "tackle" that has enabled me to generally enjoy life and produce children since that day would have been ripped from my body and become dog food! I'll happily visit Holland or Germany or anywhere else for that matter, but never again as an England football fan!
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davethegull
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Post by davethegull on Jun 7, 2010 15:54:52 GMT
Wow! That's truely cringeworthy. It just confirms to me why i avoid Brits on tour over here. You rarely see trouble in LOS but if you do it's a pissed up brit/aussie behaving like a lout.
I think it was the Kiddie game when i was so embarrassed by our fans behaviour in a pub that i spent time apologising to the locals. In fact i think merse you were there as well. I guess every team has it's morons. Hopefully the days of national disgrace are behind us.
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merse
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Post by merse on Jun 7, 2010 16:26:32 GMT
I think it was the Kiddie game when i was so embarrassed by our fans behaviour in a pub that i spent time apologising to the locals. In fact i think merse you were there as well. We certainly were both there.....................and there was I thinking YOU were one of those we had to aplogise for!  Having "connections" up there and having and still being an occasional user of the Kiddie Social Club as well as the nearby Halesowen Cricket Club, it was indeed embarassing that day to have people behaving like that, and to the unitiated; being Torquay United supporters. It just goes to show that the more beer you pour into an idiot from the top, the more of his brains flow out at the bottom, and good manners and common decency soon follow into the drains of the urinal if indeed they have had the good grace to use that urinal and not pissed themsleves where they stand. |
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Post by aussie on Jun 7, 2010 16:49:56 GMT
So when I get refered to on here as a criminal because I`m from Australia then that`s all right but if I call an Azzuri a Spick then I get it in the neck! O.k then I guess I just have to live with double standards! I`m o.k about being called something like criminal or convict and I grew up with loads of Italians in Melbourne and they couldn`t give a sh1t if you called them Spicks, they would just reply with "shut up red neck" or something like that, so why are we wrapping every one up with cotton wool and protecting them `eh? Next I`ll be told we can`t call Eggshitter fans Northern Scum, it`s BANTER and if you can`t take a bit of banter especially on a footballl forum then I think you are possibly in the wrong place! I also can`t believe that one little remark has caused so much fuss, oh yes I can Merse is on his high and might horse as usual!
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davethegull
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Post by davethegull on Jun 7, 2010 17:29:21 GMT
Ah, Melbourne is probably the one city on the planet i would love to retire to. What a fantastic melting pot of different cultures. A beautiful city with some of the friendliest people you will ever meet. Aussies tend to get the idea of banter without the hangups. Most of my friends there are from a maltese background and they refer to themselves as wogs. I have to say it took some getting used to, but it wasn't an issue for them. It was my problem not theirs.
So, in the best tradition of the TFF we've managed to take the starting eleven completely off topic, breakfast anyone?!
Would love to see Joe Cole starting for us, and it would please the mrs!
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Post by Dave on Jun 7, 2010 17:36:59 GMT
So, in the best tradition of the TFF we've managed to take the starting eleven completely off topic, breakfast anyone?! Would love to see Joe Cole starting for us, and it would please the mrs! I will be starting a matchday thread for our opening game later tonight, If I get lucky it may just stay on topic. |
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Post by merse on Jun 7, 2010 18:10:12 GMT
So when I get refered to on here as a criminal because I`m from Australia then that`s all right but if I call an Azzuri a Spick then I get it in the neck! I think we all recall the term you used was "dirty, cheating spicks" I'm sure that's a charming form of endearment in Melbourne.  |
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Post by stefano on Jun 7, 2010 19:31:47 GMT
So, in the best tradition of the TFF we've managed to take the starting eleven completely off topic, breakfast anyone?! Would love to see Joe Cole starting for us, and it would please the mrs! I will be starting a matchday thread for our opening game later tonight, If I get lucky it may just stay on topic. Not a chance! |
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Post by aussie on Jun 8, 2010 5:53:47 GMT
So when I get refered to on here as a criminal because I`m from Australia then that`s all right but if I call an Azzuri a Spick then I get it in the neck! I think we all recall the term you used was "dirty, cheating spicks" I'm sure that's a charming form of endearment in Melbourne. You haven`t been there, you don`t know what the banter is like so shut up! You stay locked away in your sterile little imaginary utopia and pretend the world works just the way you want it to! Unbelievable! |
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