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Post by stefano on Dec 1, 2010 7:44:34 GMT
So what does Nick Clegg do? I don't understand politics that much, but when I listened to it all on the radio, I thought there was no way he could keep to the promises he made..... Nick Clegg would have thought at the time of preparing the election manifesto that it didn't matter what they said as there was absolutely no chance of the Lib Dems being the next Government, a nice position to be in as you know you will never have to deliver so can make the most 'attractive' promises knowing that it will get you a few more votes but that you will never have to deliver on them. Now that the Conservatives have Mr Clegg as an 'apprentice' to show him what government is all about I expect he will be less blase about the preparation of the next Lib Dem manifesto!
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Post by stuartB on Dec 1, 2010 20:55:41 GMT
Stuart might the wrong person to ask on this one though Dave....given that the Welsh Assembly has pledged to cap student fees, whether they choose to study in the Principality or not ;D Complete shock to me and I nearly crashed the car when I heard it on the radio!! Just like the free prescriptions etc. might actually make it more worthwhile living here but then again .......
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Post by chelstongull on Dec 1, 2010 21:12:14 GMT
How can the Welsh afford it? Or is it a case of they are better with the budgets than we are? Do we (UK) pay anything towards the Welsh? Sorry to ask So many questions.
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Post by stuartB on Dec 1, 2010 21:31:36 GMT
How can the Welsh afford it? Or is it a case of they are better with the budgets than we are? Do we (UK) pay anything towards the Welsh? Sorry to ask So many questions. something to do with the Barnet formula but what that has got to do with a rubbish L2 football team, I do not know. Different priorities and a Labour/Plaid Cymru Assembly
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Post by rjdgull on Dec 1, 2010 21:48:40 GMT
How can the Welsh afford it? Or is it a case of they are better with the budgets than we are? Do we (UK) pay anything towards the Welsh? Sorry to ask So many questions. Wiki partly quotes the following: (I know it can be inaccurate but gives the general gist.) However, the continuing distribution of a per-capita amount to each devolved areas higher than that allocated to England still continues to attract calls for the formula to be re-negotiated. Using figures for the financial year 2006/2007[4], if a UK-wide per-capita average was a notional 100% then identifiable per-capita expenditure on services in England would be 97% and the Scottish amount 117%. Wales would be 111% and Northern Ireland 127%. This comprises all expenditure that can be identified as being to the benefit of a particular country. It does not, however, take account of 'non-identifiable expenditure', such as defence and debt interest, which are deemed to be for the benefit of the entire UK, regardless as to where the monies are actually spent. In actual monetary figures, this will work out as (per person):[5] England £7,121 Scotland £8,623 Wales £8,139 Northern Ireland £9,385 As these variations were not ever a consciously decided policy of the Treasury or Parliament this has been cited as a reason for reform. However, as noted earlier these differences may be eroded over time albeit very slowly. For example the trend in Scottish identifiable expenditure as a percentage of English identifiable expenditure is as follows for the six years from 2001/02 to 2006/07 (a period of very large increases in public expenditure): 121.3%, 120.6%, 120.3%, 117.1%, 119.7%, 121.1%[5]. Some estimate that these differences should disappear in thirty years, but that is by no means evident from recent data. The population of England is 80% of the population of the UK. Instant abolition of the Barnett Formula, based on the above figures would result on an average UK expenditure of approximately £7362. This would be a large decrease for each person in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, but an increase of less than 4% per person for England. Although not subject to Barnett, there are significant variations in identifiable spending between the regions of England:[5] North East £8,177 - 111% of UK average identifiable expenditure North West £7,798 - 106% Yorkshire and Humberside £7,188 - 98% East Midlands £6,491 - 88% West Midlands £7,065 - 96% Eastern £6,144 - 83% London £8,404 - 114% South East £6,304 - 86% South West £6,677 - 91%
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Post by chelstongull on Dec 1, 2010 22:23:30 GMT
Thanks for that
why don't we all get the same wedge comrade?
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Post by stuartB on Dec 1, 2010 22:32:03 GMT
Thanks for that why don't we all get the same wedge comrade? because the English pay for everthing due to the number of Jocks and Taffs in the successive governments
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Post by the92ndfish on Dec 9, 2010 0:42:32 GMT
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Post by lambethgull on Dec 9, 2010 1:07:37 GMT
Everyone knows what Porter is, even before he lost any credibility he had pre-Millbank. Readers of the Daily Telegraph might believe him to be the 'Coalition's most vocal critic', but his credibility sinks by the day. He's a classic case of what business leaders euphemistically refer to as a 'union moderate', you know, 'someone we can do business with'. That was until he realised what he had unwittingly unleashed as the first panes of glass were smashed at Tory Party HQ ;D
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Post by aussie on Dec 9, 2010 6:57:52 GMT
Don`t you mean snobs?
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Post by lambethgull on Dec 9, 2010 23:52:10 GMT
Don`t you mean snobs? It's core readership of Colonal Blimp reactionaries and Young Fogies are a peculiar bunch (not to mention the nutjobs who contribute to the comments pages of its online edition), but its sports coverage is good (except when there are Rugby Union international games) and its commentators are far more fun than those who write for the Guardian. Give me the hilarious Simon Heffer over George Monbiot any day!
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Post by aussie on Dec 10, 2010 11:02:41 GMT
After watching the news I feel the students are well out of order and should have been dispersed with water cannons and rubber bullets, although the cause might be justifiable their actions certainly aren`t! I paid £7,500 per year for my daughter to attend a decent primary school so she had a good education and I will pay for her to go to uni without any hesitation, why do people always expect something for nothing? I`ll bet there is a large contingent of students, who expect to be paid for, that come from families that are benifits orientated, now I wonder where the link is there! Wake up and smell the coffee time is well over due, I work hard and pay my way, I don`t expect hand-outs and I feel that others should be more responsible for themselves! Sympathy for any of them went flying out the window when I watched what they were doing, damaging war memorials and statues of Winston Churchill should be enough to justify soldiers kicking their arses, and when they get home their parents should also be kicking their arses aswell, they disgust me!
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Post by stefano on Dec 10, 2010 11:28:32 GMT
After watching the news I feel the students are well out of order and should have been dispersed with water cannons and rubber bullets, although the cause might be justifiable their actions certainly aren`t! I paid £7,500 per year for my daughter to attend a decent primary school so she had a good education and I will pay for her to go to uni without any hesitation, why do people always expect something for nothing? I`ll bet there is a large contingent of students, who expect to be paid for, that come from families that are benifits orientated, now I wonder where the link is there! Wake up and smell the coffee time is well over due, I work hard and pay my way, I don`t expect hand-outs and I feel that others should be more responsible for themselves! Sympathy for any of them went flying out the window when I watched what they were doing, damaging war memorials and statues of Winston Churchill should be enough to justify soldiers kicking their arses, and when they get home their parents should also be kicking their arses aswell, they disgust me! Rubber bullets? You haven't gone half far enough Aussie. A well drilled Firing Squad with real bullets, the ringleaders caged in the Tower on only food and water for a few months before a public beheading (then let FIFA say we can't organise public events), and those that attacked the Royal Family charged with treason. That would make their eyes water and there would be no need for them to worry about university tuition fees as they would be far too old before they saw the light of day again!!! ;D
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Post by aussie on Dec 10, 2010 11:44:58 GMT
Do you recon I`m being a bit soft then Steve? How about public floggings and a bit of tar and feathering? Chelston could bring his torches and noose, we could make a real knees up of it all!
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Post by stefano on Dec 10, 2010 11:50:34 GMT
Do you recon I`m being a bit soft then Steve? How about public floggings and a bit of tar and feathering? Chelston could bring his torches and noose, we could make a real knees up of it all! Yes you can be a big southern softie at times! . Latest suggestions far more in line with what is required and Chelston's involvement will definitely add a bit of je ne c'est quoi! Let's Party ;D
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