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Post by stefano on Feb 17, 2011 22:01:47 GMT
Is it any wonder why people just dont bother reporting crimes to the police anymore? The simple answer seems to be no. Not too sure what the answer is as it does seem deep rooted. Perhaps real properly trained (not PCSO's dressed up to give the illusion of police on the streets) police officers on the streets engaging with and getting to know their communities would help .... but hey that's been tried before and somebody obviously thought that wouldn't work. Perhaps a dictatorship rather than constantly reforming a Government would be the way towards improvement. The trouble is when a new post holder gets in (whether it be PM, Home Secretary, or Justice Minister) he (gender neutral! ) wants to get noticed ... by changing things. Never known anybody ask if something is working before implementing change. No, in the eyes of the politician change is progress. And why should they care? By the time it all goes tits up they will be long gone from the post and either earning billions in company directorships or if the dice of luck is loaded the other way in prison. I wonder if they are actually drunk at dinner parties when they come up with ideas like marching violent drunks to the cashpoint to pay an on-the-spot fine (that's always assuming there is someone to do the marching and what happens after he is fined? He'll still be drunk won't he?!!). ASBO's were clearly the result of another drunken discussion. "Wouldn't it be a good idea not to charge people for committing individual criminal offences but to wait until they have committed loads then ask the Magistrates to issue an Order telling them they must be good or they will be in serious trouble if they do it again!" Barking!!!
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Post by Dave on Feb 17, 2011 23:06:35 GMT
ASBO's were clearly the result of another drunken discussion. "Wouldn't it be a good idea not to charge people for committing individual criminal offences but to wait until they have committed loads then ask the Magistrates to issue an Order telling them they must be good or they will be in serious trouble if they do it again!" Barking!!! As you know I'm not political or support any party as such, so this post is not a politcal one. A few years ago our prime minister said we should hug a hoodie, so I had to laugh when I read about what is replacing ASBO's. Can't remember what they are going to be called now, but the police will have the power to take away their Ipods etc out in the street. Not sure that is going to work as they may have nicked them in the first place and all that will happen is they will go and nick another one.
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Post by rjdgull on Feb 17, 2011 23:40:50 GMT
It is not all one way traffic. I was just reading a report that Judge Julian Lambert in Gloucestershire on being told that a German Shepherd called Zak detained a burglar by biting his left Buttock retorted with "Good! I hope it hurt! Burglar was sent down for 9 months and the only compensation he got was a sore arse!! ;D
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Post by Dave on Feb 28, 2011 19:03:02 GMT
To continue with our Another Example Of The Mad World We Live In thread. I bring you a story I meant to do a few weeks ago. You would think our police would be able to use some common sense when it’s clear to them that no crime was really committed as such. Yet in this story is was the very people trying to get what should have been the right and proper conclusion to the problem, that ended up being threatened with arrest. A lady taxi driver who has lived in her flat for over four years and pays out a £1,000 a year in service charges, ground rent and for her own parking space, went to go to work and found her car at been clamped. The clampers were there and demanded £80 from her and as she felt very intimidated by them, she phoned her boss. A call went out on the taxis radios that she needed some help with her situation and within minutes, every available car in the area was racing to the aid of the poor woman. Two cabs went into the car park and made sure the clampers van was going nowhere. Others blockaded the exit while black cabs, minicabs and people-carriers encircled the site and kept the van corralled What followed was a nine hour siege ('ongoing dispute' was the police's phrase) involving more than 20 taxis and up to 40 drivers at its peak and god knows how many police officers. Her car had two tax holders in it, one for the tax disc and one for her permit to park in her space. Strangely the car was unlocked when she got to it and the parking permit, had mysteriously found its way into the same holder with the tax disc in. She showed the parking permit to the clampers, but they were not interested and would not release the clamp until they got paid. So for nine hours they were not able to move their van and earn any more money for the day. The siege of Southend was quelled after police warned the taxi drivers they could face arrest for threatening behaviour and public order offences and so the taxi firm boss paid the £80 fine to prevent his drivers facing arrest. Her car had been parked In the same space for over four years, the clampers knew that as they saw it there every single day. Why when it was clear to the police that she was had parked in the place she had paid for, ask the clampers to take the clamp off. Why did the police let the whole siege go on for nine hours? How much did it cost in police time as I believe there were as many as 20 officers at the scene. Why were the taxi drivers the ones who were threatened with arrest? It was after all the clampers threatening and intimidating behaviour in the first place, that made the lady call her boss in the first place. Roll on next year when the new law comes in that outlaws wheel clamping in the UK.
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Post by loyalgull on Feb 28, 2011 19:31:14 GMT
pathetic,shameful but not surprising.Fiddle with kids or mug old ladies expect a slap on the wrist,but if you owe money god help your mortal soul,for they shall not forget.Somebody broke into my garage two years ago,not one copper has been round,that photo of those coppers sums this country up,going down the drain sharpish
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Post by lambethgull on Feb 28, 2011 20:25:48 GMT
There was a snippet on the radio about a man in Southend who had to wait 9 hours for a taxi. When it eventually came they charged him £5 a mile and subjected him to 35 minutes of Dire Straits. This country!
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