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Post by warwickgull on Aug 29, 2010 8:26:05 GMT
It wasn't perfect or pretty at times today, but this was a good, solid performance against a team who have made an excellent start to their League campaign. And on their own patch too. Before people start getting "above our station" and too altruistic, I think that is a far more realistic reaction and more appreciative realisation of just what the team have achieved today. For Christ's sake, we have just rattled up four out of four in the league, only conceded our first goal (that's cost us nothing) in God know's how long AND taken Vale's own unbeaten league record off them on their own ground today. This is Football League 2 we're talking about, so for a start to go wittering on about player disinterest and the performance not being of top standard is just what you hear from people who have little experience of taking part in ultra competitive sport where the margins between the two side's ability, and therefore between winning and losing; are wafer thin at the best of times. Just be grateful for another three points ~ what next, complaints that we have yet to see the all black kit used? Just thought I would witter on a little more and express more opinions as apparently someone who has never played any ultra competetive sport apparently, not that you have ever met me or know anything about me! Did you go to the game? May I suggest that from your appearance on your wonderfull website with 11 members it may be yourself who has not played sport to an ultra competetive level. If you look back at my match report which was fairly similar to the other reports even though it was written in about 5 minns flat for your benefit! I state the 3 points were the most important thing, which we got on a day we did not play that well! You haven't changed much have you! All I did was express an honest opinion of the game and player performances. In return all you can muster is antagonistic bull and digs about my lack of knowledge, when you know absolutely nothing about me! Our players can still have bad performances you know, even if we have 4 wins in 4. Benyon got a poor review as he had a poor game, Bevan and Zeb got a good review as they played well, deal with it! At the end of the day 12 points from 12 and we are all happy, get on with your bank holiday weekend and stop bitching.
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Post by merse on Aug 29, 2010 8:44:39 GMT
this was a good, solid performance against a team who have made an excellent start to their League campaign. And on their own patch too. Before people start getting above our station and too altruistic, I think that is a far more realistic reaction and more appreciative realisation of just what the team have achieved today. Calm down dear, by agreeing with one poster, I have upset you who held a different view ~ oh dear, oh dear; let's run for the tissues!
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Post by tufc01 on Aug 29, 2010 8:55:18 GMT
Overall a very enjoyable day & a fully deserved 3 points. A good performance from the guys who absolutely worked their socks off. Not the total football we saw against Bradford but you can't do that every week. It was just as pleasing to see that we are just as capable of battling to a win as we are at playing football.
The match reports have already done a great job describing the game & chris' description of the ground & the area was absolutely spot on.
Bevan rightly accorded MoM by everyone so far. That triple save has to be seen to be believed, and he also produced an equally good save in the first half.
It's difficult to justify saying that we deserved the 3 points whilst at the same time saying your own keeper was MoM. It sounds as if we were under pressure throughout and only kept in it by him, but that wasn't the case. We DID fully deserve the win because we were the away team but took the game to them. They couldn't get near us in the first 25 minutes and then we defended superbly whilst still managing to counter attack.
Credit for the win MUST go to Paul Buckle. He got the starting line, formation, tactics, substitutions & formation changes absolutely spot on. Full credit to him. He had the balls to change a winning team/line up, he got the team to take the game to vale right from the off. In the second half when the midfield were starting to get overrun he changed it to 4-5-1. Introduced Eunan O'Kane when Danny was struggling & brought on Gritton because the ball wasn't sticking up front. WELL DONE Paul.
Other notable mentions to Zebs (outstanding yet again) who ran them ragged first half and defended/counter attacked so well when we changed it around. Also to Branston/Ellis who really did put their bodies in the way when required. The transfer window closing can't come quick enough right now.
It shows how well the team are doing when as one record falls, another is broken and others are appearing on the horizon.
These are exciting times and long may they continue, however for now we might as well enjoy it whilst it lasts.
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Post by warwickgull on Aug 29, 2010 9:04:01 GMT
Whatever!
Perhaps its your backward way of needlesly insulting people and their opinions who you know nothing about (which has always been your hobby), rather than you agreeing with another poster which may have been the problem. You think!!!
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Post by Dave on Aug 29, 2010 9:16:17 GMT
Did you fall asleep on the floor and wake up in a grumpy mood as well merse? since when did you need to have been a player to give a view on a football game. I haven't challenged anyone's right to submit a report, nor form their own opinion; I have made my view known that I believe Warwickgull's point about the standard of performance should be held in the light of the achievement of yesterday and the recognition of just where we have achieved it...................and as someone else has written: if that was average, then fine ~ our average result is a win at the moment! ;D But you didn't do that really did you merse, you just just tried to devalue Warwickgulls opinions on a game he watched and tried to make him feel he is not worthy of being able to judge the level of performance he witnessed. Such a shame he takes the time to write his first ever match report on the TFF and instead of questioning his views you try and put him down. No you haven't changed much at all have you merse. Many thanks to all those who took the time to write match reports, they are all very much appreciated by those who like to read different view points on games we did not attend ourselves.
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Post by loyalgull on Aug 29, 2010 9:31:44 GMT
i went to the game yesterday,agree with all reports on the game in one way or another.My mind springs back to last season though,when we played many teams off the park only to lose.Bournemouth won promotion on sheer guts and the ability to grind out results whatever the performance,rather be a lucky winner than loser though,although we havent been lucky up to now,but fully deserve our results.I am just enjoying it whilst it lasts.Port Vale is a cracking stadium,in an area that makes me appreciate where i live more than ever,we certainly live in a beautiful part of the country,with a team that is top on merit,long may it last
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Post by aussie on Aug 29, 2010 9:34:24 GMT
I haven't challenged anyone's right to submit a report, nor form their own opinion; I have made my view known that I believe Warwickgull's point about the standard of performance should be held in the light of the achievement of yesterday and the recognition of just where we have achieved it...................and as someone else has written: if that was average, then fine ~ our average result is a win at the moment! ;D But you didn't do that really did you merse, you just just tried to devalue Warwickgulls opinions on a game he watched and tried to make him feel he is not worthy of being able to judge the level of performance he witnessed. Such a shame he takes the time to write his first ever match report on the TFF and instead of questioning his views you try and put him down. No you haven't changed much at all have you merse. Many thanks to all those who took the time to write match reports, they are all very much appreciated by those who like to read different view points on games we did not attend ourselves. I`m saying nothing!
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Post by NickGull on Aug 29, 2010 9:39:21 GMT
Port Vale is a cracking stadium,in an area that makes me appreciate where i live more than ever,we certainly live in a beautiful part of the country Amen to that. Burslem wasn't one of the nicest places I've ever been..
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Post by lambethgull on Aug 29, 2010 9:48:52 GMT
Port Vale is a cracking stadium,in an area that makes me appreciate where i live more than ever,we certainly live in a beautiful part of the country Amen to that. Burslem wasn't one of the nicest places I've ever been.. Burslem probably won't be winning any tourist awards anytime soon, but the place had atmosphere in abundance. A proper setting for a football ground, which Lowry could have painted.
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Post by warwickgull on Aug 29, 2010 9:49:28 GMT
Port Vale is a cracking stadium,in an area that makes me appreciate where i live more than ever,we certainly live in a beautiful part of the country Amen to that. Burslem wasn't one of the nicest places I've ever been.. What made me laugh was the stand on the right with the boxes in. There were about a dozen bags of gravel and sand stacked up making it look like they were just about to finish the job. Those bags were there last time I was lucky enough to visit years back, and Constantine got our winner 2-1 that day as well I think.
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Post by NickGull on Aug 29, 2010 10:04:56 GMT
Amen to that. Burslem wasn't one of the nicest places I've ever been.. Burslem probably won't be winning any tourist awards anytime soon, but the place had atmosphere in abundance. A proper setting for a football ground, which Lowry could have painted. Agree about the atmosphere. I think it was down to the height of the roofs on every stand, as I would imagine the Vale fans up the other end could here us quite clearly, when we got going. I would also imagine that when Vale Park is full for a big game/derby match that the atmosphere is electric.
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Post by merse on Aug 29, 2010 10:13:00 GMT
But you didn't do that really did you merse, you just just tried to devalue Warwickgulls opinions on a game he watched and tried to make him feel he is not worthy of being able to judge the level of performance he witnessed. Oh come on why the drama? I've not "devalued" or attempted to make anyone feel "unworthy" at all, but made the point that Vale are probably the most accomplished and difficult opponents so far ~ particularly in their own back yard, and that their strengths need to be acknowledged before calling OUR performance "average". If people are going to start coming away from victories on the road feeling like that, they're not going to get much enjoyment out of life are they. If we are to go on and enjoy a season of challenging at the top then there will be many occasions where the opposition show great resilience and determination to stop us playing and turn us over. It will become very difficult to look "impressive" and my mind casts back to strong sides who have led this league in the past where people have left the match saying "they didn't look all that, did they" Sides like the Southend side of Dave Smith's in the 1980s, Graham Taylor's sides at Lincoln and Watford and last season's Bournemouth team as Loyalgull has alluded to. There will always be those who show their thin skinned nature by taking umbrage at being taken to task, I don't think they are the sort of characters who would last five minutes in a competitive environment at Vale Park as OUR team obviously did yesterday, but then that's MY opinion ~ an opinion I am never afraid to state. I haven't been abusive, disrespectful or insulting; just made a point which one or two don't like being made..................c'est la vie.
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Post by warwickgull on Aug 29, 2010 10:13:28 GMT
I haven't challenged anyone's right to submit a report, nor form their own opinion; I have made my view known that I believe Warwickgull's point about the standard of performance should be held in the light of the achievement of yesterday and the recognition of just where we have achieved it...................and as someone else has written: if that was average, then fine ~ our average result is a win at the moment! ;D But you didn't do that really did you merse, you just just tried to devalue Warwickgulls opinions on a game he watched and tried to make him feel he is not worthy of being able to judge the level of performance he witnessed. Such a shame he takes the time to write his first ever match report on the TFF and instead of questioning his views you try and put him down. No you haven't changed much at all have you merse. Many thanks to all those who took the time to write match reports, they are all very much appreciated by those who like to read different view points on games we did not attend ourselves. Thanks for those words Dave, Hey, we are all supporters of the same team, its just a shame some take great delight in sitting at their keyboards breeding negativity and trying to wind people up. I stick by my report, and comments. Im sure Bucks will not be happy to stand still and be happy just because we won and are at the moment top. He will be looking for the team to build on this win and improve us for the next game. Like I said I thought we looked quality for the first 30 minns, but were very average in some areas of the field after that. Personally after yesterday I would possibly be looking at O'kane starting the next game.
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Post by Dave on Aug 29, 2010 10:26:40 GMT
warwickgull most on here are happy just to enter into proper debate without the need to rubbish others views, sadly some still don't understand they cause harm to the TFF and make others feel its not worth posting their views or wonder why they did bother in the first place.
Once again thanks for your report and I hope you stick around and enjoy entering debate with those who understand the proper meaning of the word.
Dave
Now back to discussing the match on this a match thread. ;D
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Post by warwickgull on Aug 29, 2010 10:31:37 GMT
NEW MATCH REPORT FOR MERSE
Bevan 10 NICO 10 ELLIS 10 PICKLER 10 ROBBO 10 STEVENS 10 CARLISLE 10 WROE 10 MANSELL 10 ZEB 10 BENYON 20
What a wonderfull day and a wonderfull display of free flowing football against the big bad Port Vale who are the toughest opposition one could possibly imagine, gosh they were supurb god knows how we beat them. We were simply supurb all game and I cannot critisise one player because they were all supurb for 90 minns. Even the pie at half time was supurb, infact the whole day was truely tremendous.
Ps PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COPY AND PASTE THIS FOR EVERY MATCHDAY IF YOU FIND GENUINE AND HONEST CRITICISAM OF YOUR OWN TEAM TOO HARD TO TAKE.
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