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Post by Budleigh on Jan 31, 2011 19:06:45 GMT
East Devon...!
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Post by lambethgull on Jan 31, 2011 21:12:30 GMT
I have read some astonishing things on here in the last couple of days, including someone threatening to throw away their season ticket. What a heinous crime we have commited getting to the 4th round of the FA Cup. Buckle should be ashamed. An apology doesn't go far enough in my opinion. Surely some kind of public flogging, or stick him in stocks and chuck rotten tomatos at him minimum. Please, it is 2 days on. Yes it is still raw, but try to find some perspective on this before embarrassing us all with 'representative' views. What you have read was written more by the heart than the head and that is perfectly normal after such an eventful weekend. I don't think any TFF members posts are in any danger of causing any embarrassment, but then thats just my own opinion. Fans are feeling hurt and when that pain starts to go away they will start posting using their head again and not their heart. The question about should Paul Buckle apologize to the fans is one that is always open to debate. Some will say they paid money to watch the game and would like some honest answers why it all went wrong. Others might not agree that should happen, but as there is a danger of losing fans, would it hurt for a frank and honest statement from Paul Buckle? It might just go some way to repair any damage. If fans had been able to buy tickets as they should have been able to, there would not have been a need for large queues in the first place, they were made worse due to the club making the statement that if fans did not get to the ground early they would miss the match. There are always lessons the be learned and I'm sure many have been this last weekend. Lessons should be learnt with regard to the off-field issues on Saturday, and I'm sure Buckle and the players will be wanting to address their inability to overcome a non-league team in a 4th round FA Cup tie at home. However, I agree with Jeremy that some of the more hysterical posts on here have been embarassing. Okay, so it's a forum for TUFC fans and if fans of Crawley and other teams stop by and see our fans howling and bawling via their keyboard, then so be it. It's a different thing though if a post like tufc01's post is passed to Buckle as "the view from the forum". It's not my view, it's his view. If he wants that passed to Paul Buckle then he should write in personally to the club. If he's happy to sign that off with the signature of a grown man, then fair enough. But don't drag me or anyone else into it. |
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Post by Dave on Jan 31, 2011 21:28:26 GMT
It's a different thing though if a post like tufc01's post is passed to Buckle as "the view from the forum". It's not my view, it's his view. If he wants that passed to Paul Buckle then he should write in personally to the club. If he's happy to sign that off with the signature of a grown man, then fair enough. But don't drag me or anyone else into it. If you looked at his post properly you would have seen he was asking Lou to pass on the part of his post he quoted and not anyone else's, therefore it would only be his views, not yours, not mine and not the TFF's. I'm sure Rich would have no problem if Lou wanted to put his full name to it, she does after all know it anyway. Dave |
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Post by lambethgull on Jan 31, 2011 21:34:41 GMT
It's a different thing though if a post like tufc01's post is passed to Buckle as "the view from the forum". It's not my view, it's his view. If he wants that passed to Paul Buckle then he should write in personally to the club. If he's happy to sign that off with the signature of a grown man, then fair enough. But don't drag me or anyone else into it. If you looked at his post properly you would have seen he was asking Lou to pass on the part of his post he quoted and not anyone else's, therefore it would only be his views, not yours, not mine and not the TFF's. I'm sure Rich would have no problem if Lou wanted to put his full name to it, she does after all know it anyway. Dave I did look at his post properly, Dave. Representing only his own views is he?........why ask for this bit to be passed on then: |
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Post by Dave on Jan 31, 2011 21:44:43 GMT
If you looked at his post properly you would have seen he was asking Lou to pass on the part of his post he quoted and not anyone else's, therefore it would only be his views, not yours, not mine and not the TFF's. I'm sure Rich would have no problem if Lou wanted to put his full name to it, she does after all know it anyway. Dave I did look at his post properly, Dave. Representing only his own views is he?........why ask for this bit to be passed on then: Not going to spit hairs with you Lambie, but the part you have quoted was not the part he asked Lou to pass onto the club. As I said he is not someone unknown to Lou and in fact I know she has his phone number. I'm more than happy to make Lou aware that the views are his and he is not speaking on behalf of any other TUFC fan. Now that should put it to bed surely.  |
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Post by lambethgull on Jan 31, 2011 21:52:45 GMT
Me neither, but there is talk of 'we' and 'us' in the bit that is 'highlighted'  More than happy for it to be put to bed though  |
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Post by tufc01 on Jan 31, 2011 23:35:12 GMT
Please, it is 2 days on. Yes it is still raw, but try to find some perspective on this before embarrassing us all with 'representative' views. However, I agree with Jeremy that some of the more hysterical posts on here have been embarassing. Okay, so it's a forum for TUFC fans and if fans of Crawley and other teams stop by and see our fans howling and bawling via their keyboard, then so be it. It's a different thing though if a post like tufc01's post is passed to Buckle as "the view from the forum". It's not my view, it's his view. If he wants that passed to Paul Buckle then he should write in personally to the club. If he's happy to sign that off with the signature of a grown man, then fair enough. But don't drag me or anyone else into it. Me neither, but there is talk of 'we' and 'us' in the bit that is 'highlighted' The very last thing I want is for anything I have said to embarrass the forum itself or be embarrassing to anyone or be seen as a ‘representative’ view of the forum. I have sent a PM to Lou to ask her NOT to pass anything to the club. I genuinely apologise if what I have said has embarrassed some of you, or has embarrassed myself as this was not my intention and I am mortified to think that this is the case. Yes it probably is a case of heart overruling the head however I also realise I shouldn’t have used ‘we’ and ‘us’ as they were my own views, which I still hold. |
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Post by lambethgull on Jan 31, 2011 23:46:54 GMT
Look mate, there's no need for any apologies. It was an awful result, and we all have our ways of dealing with it. I wasn't exactly in the greatest of moods at work today - which no non-football fan could've understood.
Let's hope Bucks and club learn lessons frpm this, as they continue the fine work they've done to date.
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Post by tufc01 on Jan 31, 2011 23:48:41 GMT
And as for having to apologise to fans for having to queue to get in, that is possibly the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. You can make an argument for the decision making surrounding the ticketing allocation, but, STOP PRESS, when your ground is close to capacity, you have to queue to get in. Do you complain if you have to queue in a supermarket when it's busy at Christmas? If I could just ask you to read my original post again, you will see that I was making the argument about the ticketing arrangements, not about having to queue. |
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Post by Jon on Feb 1, 2011 0:28:38 GMT
Best bits of the day were the curry and the beer - and the startling revelation that Budleigh is such a love God that his former girlfriends get their new men to ring him up for bedroom tips. Worst part of the day was the football match - if only I could have a pound for every time I've said that. We knew we would have to be "at it" to win and sadly we weren't. I am sure we started with O'Kane wide and Zebs up front, but as soon as Benyon took an early smack on the nose (who could have predicted that? :  , we were rocked right on to the back foot and never really managed to get back on the front foot. We had to shift shape to try to claw a foot-hold in the game. Crawley lined up 4-2-3-1 with Cook and McAllister wide and Smith in the hole behind Tubbs on his own up front. Much as I would have loved Zebs to stick right upfront and O'Kane to play as a winger, Mansell and an out-of-sorts Wroe would have been absolutely over-run by Bulman, Torres and Smith. When Kee came on, O'Kane took Wroe's role and Kee went into "the hole". We lost the game through too many poor performances - not because of tactics. I don't think the manager told the players to perform poorly. I don't think the players wanted to perform poorly. I don't want Buckle to apologise - I want him to pick the players up so that they beat Hereford. The result was a kick in the teeth, but anyone who has been a TUFC fan for more than five minutes is used to getting kicked in the teeth and just getting on with it. It's a hell of a battle trying to stop our club from slipping backwards and trying to get it to edge forwards. To glimpse the chance of taking a big easy leap forward, see it disappear and then summon up the guts to slog away at edging forward slowly takes guts - but you've just got to do it. You can't just give up and go home. |
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Post by Budleigh on Feb 1, 2011 8:58:51 GMT
Just as well I've done the TFF programme notes for Saturday's game or else that was definately in!!
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Post by Jon on Feb 1, 2011 23:25:00 GMT
Just as well I've done the TFF programme notes for Saturday's game or else that was definately in!! .... next to the advert for the instructional DVD, no doubt. |
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, we were rocked right on to the back foot and never really managed to get back on the front foot. We had to shift shape to try to claw a foot-hold in the game.