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Post by rjdgull on Mar 13, 2011 19:22:09 GMT
With eleven games to go we have chalked up our first target of fifty points in style and with an appropriate 5-0 scoreline. We will need every bit of confidence from that game if we are to push on against Bury as they are the form team at the moment! Bury haven't conceded in the last four games and only lost one of their lost thirteen matches, ironically to Stockport!  They won 4-3 at Plainmoor and have the best away record in the division but have only accrued two points less than us at home albeit having played two less. Ryan Lowe is on fire for them at the moment and will need some special attention. I hope that Buckle lines up with the same side that started on Saturday and anyone dropped, even for tactical considerations will probably feel rightly aggrieved. Kee didn't make the bench on Saturday due to injury but for this match, it would be useful to have him back as a few goals could be flying around and options on the bench could be important. Presently only the excellent Zebroski is not on loan and starting in the midfield and forward positions but this fresh look or evolution of the side could see us do very well in the end of season run in. |
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Post by petergodfrey on Mar 13, 2011 19:37:21 GMT
At home oop north so couldn't get to the Stevenage or Shrews games but am I being too 'glass half empty' to suggest a word of caution in that, against those two teams we took advantage of playing against 10 men as you should do (tho admittedly teams don't always) ? Will be at Bury and Macc this week and optimistic but hope you folk haven't bigged the boys up too much !
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Post by hullgull on Mar 13, 2011 19:43:40 GMT
fair point petergodfrey,am sure the boys will be ready for whatever test is thrown at us,and no disrepect to you,am sure bury and maccs on sat will be worried by us to....simon
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Post by Dave on Mar 13, 2011 20:18:35 GMT
At home oop north so couldn't get to the Stevenage or Shrews games but am I being too 'glass half empty' to suggest a word of caution in that, against those two teams we took advantage of playing against 10 men as you should do (tho admittedly teams don't always) ? Will be at Bury and Macc this week and optimistic but hope you folk haven't bigged the boys up too much ! Hi Pete, did you read my match report on the Gampton V Newton Spurs game? I did mention Spurs are no where near the side they were when you were their star player  I don't think we have bigged up the boys to much, they were simply brilliant against Shrewsbury. But as we know they were not so good against Aldershot away and I hope they do not deliver that sort of performance against Bury. Hope you will be able to do a match report for the forum as I'm not sure how many TFF members will get to the game. This game really does represent a very good test of just how far we have come and how good and important our recant new signings have been. So much will depend on how Paul Buckle sets up the team and the formation he wants them to play. I would want him to stick to the same starting eleven who took to the field against Shrewsbury and also stick to the same formation. yes we will be playing away, but we have the players who can run at defensives, worry them into making mistake and can find the net when the opportunity arrives. Get the home team on the back foot from the very first whistle and do all we can to keep them on it. Once again we need to keep the ball on the floor and pass it around because when we do that correctly, we really are a good side and one that any team is going to find hard to beat. |
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Post by petergodfrey on Mar 13, 2011 23:40:45 GMT
Will try to get something on after the game Dave. Incidentally, I've had people ask me up here if the team would return to Devon after the Bury game and then come back up for Macc Friday or Sat - anybody know ?
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Post by Dave on Mar 14, 2011 19:58:46 GMT
I've had people ask me up here if the team would return to Devon after the Bury game and then come back up for Macc Friday or Sat - anybody know ? In a perfect world where the club had more money coming in than going out , staying up north for both games would be the chosen option. It would mean at least four nights staying in a hotel for all the players and staff, plus the travel coach I’m sure would have to be paid for five days at least. Two away games that the club gets nothing from cash wise, I just can’t see how staying up north to take in both games could ever be afforded by our club right now. So what are the options? 1… Leave Plainmoor early Tuesday morning, play the game and come straight back after it, then give the players Wednesday off. It would mean the only cost would be for the travel coach. Downsides would be the possible effect such a long trip up and back would have on the players. The team then leaves Plainmoor Friday lunchtime and has one night stay in a hotel. Cost one night’s hotel stay plus the cost of the travel coach. This does mean that there would be two charges for the travel coach, one for the Tuesday game and one for the Saturday game. 2….Leave Plainmoor early Tuesday morning, play the game and stay in a hotel for the night, travelling back to the bay on Wednesday. Cost of hotel for one night plus the cost of the travel coach. For two days Downsides just the cost, upsides, better for the players. Then do the same for the Saturday game as listed above. 3….Leave Plainmoor early Tuesday morning, play game and stay up north in hotel until Saturday, play game and return to the Bay right after the game. Cost, at least four nights in hotels, plus cost of travel coach for five days. Five days unless it comes back to the Bay after the Tuesday match and goes back up again on the Friday of Saturday. Downside, cost, upside? Not sure there would be any really for the players as such. If I had to guess what the club will do, I would go with option number two, I just think it would take too much out of the players doing number one. On the subject of the Bury match itself, I see Bucks is saying he is not afraid to make changes to the starting line up. Well he never has been so nothing new there, but I do hope he does not see any need to do that. Keep to the side that won so handsomely on Saturday and only make any changes if and when required during the match itself. |
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Post by ospelgull on Mar 15, 2011 7:17:59 GMT
It will be another difficult game but who knows... If only we could do the same as last season, what a wonderful day that turned out to be! And 15 quid is not bad either.
I reckon we won't be playing in the same formation as we played on saturday.
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Post by dazgull on Mar 15, 2011 10:43:51 GMT
They are on a good run so its about time that ended. They are also 4 games without conceding so its about time that ended too. Although the two centre halves are suspended they have signed someone from Burnley on loan.
Apart from last years win there we have a dreadful record against home and away so hopefully we can get some revenge for the defeat at Plainmoor although some have said they were the best team here this season.
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Post by chesneygull on Mar 15, 2011 13:13:08 GMT
I agree Dazgull, Bury are the best team I have seen in L2 this year, particularly the young lad Ajose up front. Nice to see that he's recovered from his recent injury in time to play us!
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Post by milber on Mar 15, 2011 13:22:00 GMT
I see HE has reported we stayed overnight and hoping to have trained at man city this morning.
Clearly taking this game very seriously.
2 defenders out for them so hopefully will take a while to get settled, could be a few goals in this one.
Milber
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Post by chrish on Mar 15, 2011 14:42:27 GMT
I agree Dazgull, Bury are the best team I have seen in L2 this year, particularly the young lad Ajose up front. Nice to see that he's recovered from his recent injury in time to play us! But I think Sodje, Phil Picken and top scorer Ryan Lowe are up front are out. Might be a good time to platy them. I see the Local Rag (The Bury Times) published a voucher last night for £5 admission for tonight's game. |
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Post by dazgull on Mar 15, 2011 14:51:17 GMT
Not surprising they are charging that with Man Ure at home! No doubt we will clash with something next tuesday!..  |
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Post by Dave on Mar 15, 2011 17:46:50 GMT
Yes it seems the original plan was to travel up and back the same day for this match and probably give the players the Wednesday off. I would imagine Paul Buckle after our great win last Saturday that has put is in touching distance of a play-off place, asked the board to push the boat out for an overnight stay. Will it make any difference to the result? I think the post made by dah2011 would suggest sometimes it does and sometimes it makes no difference. A lot of thought is put into whether an away trip is overnight/travel on the day and when & where the team train and eat. It isn't just a financial question and it isn't an exact science because teams can have all the preparation in the world and still balls it up during the match and vice versa. One of our away trips to Cheltenham last season was a travel nightmare but the team still put on a fine display and won the game (I think it was the JPT match?). I think at the end of the day it comes down to how confident the players are feeling and just how much they want to win the match and I always wonder if there is a danger that an over night stay before a match the following evening, runs the risk of the players ending up to relaxed during the day. On the other hand a stressful trip up that leaves little time to recover from it before taking to the field can be no good at all. The change of plans does show that word I keep using on here lately, INTENT. I think it’s so very important to get every single point we can at the moment, I would hate to see us miss out on a play-off point by one point and the problem is we are very likely to face a point’s deduction very soon. It’s a shame that Oastler seems to be the unlucky one right now as he probably won’t even make the bench as he can’t be included in the squad as only five loan players can be in it and we have six at this time. I still can’t see Bucks making any changes from the team he put out on Saturday and if they play only half as well as they did then. there is no reason why we can’t win tonight. Come on you yellows |
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Post by hullgull on Mar 15, 2011 18:48:59 GMT
a repeat of last seasons result would be amazing,ok we havent muzzy or rendell this time,but i feel our squad is stronger this time,ok with the loanees granted,as per usual am positive,and see no reason why we cannot come away with 3 points tonight.....simon
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Post by rjdgull on Mar 15, 2011 19:18:12 GMT
Same team as Saturday!
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They won 4-3 at Plainmoor and have the best away record in the division but have only accrued two points less than us at home albeit having played two less. Ryan Lowe is on fire for them at the moment and will need some special attention.
