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Post by loyalgull on Apr 16, 2011 18:48:19 GMT
we beat bradford without stanley as they lacked any real quality,today stanley was missed badly,port vale maybe stuttering a bit but have quality in their team,his omission was a big factor,his midfield bite and foraging forward may well of one the match for us
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Post by petef on Apr 16, 2011 19:25:09 GMT
Entertaining but goalless against a very resolute Vale side who have struggled of late to maintain their own push for promotion. Strong defensively and with big strong guys in the right areas you could see why they had success in the early part of the season and today it looked like they recaptured some of that early form. Is easy to forget that at the halfway point just a few short months ago we were in eleventh, a clear seven points behind Port Vale and just three ahead of Bradford City who are still in danger of losing there league status as well as there stadium which they can no longer afford to rent. How the mighty have fallen.
A fair result in the end and probably disappointing for both clubs. Wycombe and Burton away next week will more or less decide our fate and its very very tight up there with room for only four to make the play-offs somebody is going to be very disappointed and with us having a tough run in I hope it isn't us.
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Post by loyalgull on Apr 16, 2011 20:01:33 GMT
yet another ref,who for some reason has a brilliant start then decides to become a complete dickhead,why oh why do they always seem to end up at plainmoor? i actually said with ten minutes to go that he would give them a penalty fortunately he didnt get an excuse,what a bloody troll he was
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Post by rjdgull on Apr 17, 2011 6:54:35 GMT
Really disappointed, that the league show only replayed both teams hitting the woodwork and not the disallowed goal. It was not that long ago that Branston was flagged for off side in the match in a very similar situation when replay showed he was anything but...
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Post by chelstongull on Apr 17, 2011 9:18:33 GMT
Taking a look at the team sheet prior to kick off it looked like Bucks was going for it with four strikers at the expense of Oastler in midfield. From the off I thought that we were being overun in midfield and thought that Oastler would be on shortly to stiffen things up. Sadly no.
Port Vale were quicker to the ball than Torquay and the Richard boys up front causing us trouble. However, their lack of composure in front of goal certainly let them down.
The ref was quick to the whistle and was giving fouls to Vale when they fell over and not giving us a foul when we were clattered to the ground. Twice Bozo failed to play the advantage when Torquay were on the attack and instead bring the ball back for free kicks - why did he have to grin as well. More about Bozo the clown aka Mr Phillips later.
Don't think we had many chances on goal in the first half. Zebs hitting the side netting and Robinson had a good Chance blocked by the Vale defender. HT 0 - 0.
Nice to see Clint Boulton do the 50/50 draw and Aussie get his yearly bath when the sprinkler soaked him.
The second half started well for Torquay with several chances going begging. Thought that bringing on Danny Stevens for the lively Robinson was a backward step with Danny having one of his poorest games in the yellow shirt. Seems to be playing too deep, too central and not running on the ball - well that's just my opinion as they say.
Murray on for Tomlin and he laid the ball onto Zebs who then hit the post.
Branston had to go off for a blood injury and was anxious to get back on. He appeared to be waved back on and tackled the Vale player and the ref then blew for a free kick. Not sure why and this event seemed to liven up both managers. Anyone know why he waved Branston on and then blew for a foul?
Branston then involved in setting up Robertsons goal. The flag seemed to go up before the ball was in the net. Can only assume it was for climbing. Anyone see Grant Holt's goal for Norwich, very similar to Branstons effort.
Near the end Vale hit the bar with a rasping volley and Manse also cleared off the line.
Full Time 0 - 0 with a crowd of 3,700 odd with Zebs again MOM. Still fifth on GD with 3 other teams - 4pts behind the Shrews.
Ex Gulls players to hit the net on Saturday - Wroe for Shewsbury (Pen), Connell twice for Grimbsy and Constantine for York
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Post by jmgull on Apr 17, 2011 9:49:15 GMT
Word is that the goal was chalked off for Nicho's corner being out of play....before it came back in again.
If that's the case then it must have been as marginal as hell - Branston was a good 8-10 yards from goal before he headed it to Robertson at the far post.
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Post by aussie on Apr 17, 2011 10:00:28 GMT
Nothing wrong with a refreshing half-time shower, on the side of the pitch! Damn I hoped no-one had noticed!  I spent most of the second half up in the Gulls Nest with my clothes covering the radiators, note to ones self-` never try too re-cap a high pressure blow out `! Now for the 4rsehole in blue, ooops sorry I meant the ref! Manse was beyond livid and at one point I was under the impression that Guy was going to tear the blokes head off. We`ve had him before and I hope we never have to suffer his ignorance again, he had no idea at all about free flowing football which is what both sides tried to play, the Vale players I spoke to after the game were disgusted by him and our lot wanted to string him up in the car park from the big tree limb that hangs just about right for a lynching! These refs we`ve had all season, bar say 3 of them, are just not good enough or fit for purpose at this level, something should really be done about them! |
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Post by alunmeerkat on Apr 17, 2011 11:10:35 GMT
chelston - as I said before, the ref gave the free kick because he waved Branston back on - and immediately he did so Branston tackled their player right by the touchline. It was a clearly ridiculous decision as the ball (and Branston) so to speak were "in play".
It was one of those anomalies whereby their player just happened to be running up the touchline as Branston stepped back onto the field and he nicked the ball off him. But to award a free kick was absurd.
Aussie - your right, it looked like the referee had been released from a mental asylum for the afternoon. Every five seconds he was blowing his whistle and flailing his arms about in an exaggerated fashion. He was truly awful.
In the second half Mansell was about to take a throw in near the half way line and encroached a few feet up the touchline as he did so.
The ref "Lee,Lee,Lee, I'm watching Lee". He then blows his whistle and thrusts his arm in the opposite direction giving the throw to the opposition. He flounces like some demented drag queen.
He spent the rest of the time gurning and laughing - he truly was a complete thingy.
As for the goal - was it really disallowed for going out of play and then miraculously somewhow ending up on Robbo's head in the six yard box? - weird.
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Post by mike on Apr 17, 2011 11:37:08 GMT
chelston - as I said before, the ref gave the free kick because he waved Branston back on - and immediately he did so Branston tackled their player right by the touchline. It was a clearly ridiculous decision as the ball (and Branston) so to speak were "in play". It was one of those anomalies whereby their player just happened to be running up the touchline as Branston stepped back onto the field and he nicked the ball off him. But to award a free kick was absurd. Aussie - your right, it looked like the referee had been released from a mental asylum for the afternoon. Every five seconds he was blowing his whistle and flailing his arms about in an exaggerated fashion. He was truly awful. In the second half Mansell was about to take a throw in near the half way line and encroached a few feet up the touchline as he did so. The ref "Lee,Lee,Lee, I'm watching Lee". He then blows his whistle and thrusts his arm in the opposite direction giving the throw to the opposition. He flounces like some demented drag queen. He spent the rest of the time gurning and laughing - he truly was a complete thingy. As for the goal - was it really disallowed for going out of play and then miraculously somewhow ending up on Robbo's head in the six yard box? - weird. I agree that the Ref was a clown but he clearly told Mansell twice to go back for the throw which Mansell ignored-the ref was correct this time |
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Post by alunmeerkat on Apr 17, 2011 11:41:41 GMT
The ref was actually a tool. I actual forgot to say that after giving the throw to Port Vale their player did exactly the same thing - however the referee chose not to look at their player when he was taking the throw. Yet another example of how clueless he really was.
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Post by chelstongull on Apr 17, 2011 11:43:26 GMT
chelston - as I said before, the ref gave the free kick because he waved Branston back on - and immediately he did so Branston tackled their player right by the touchline. It was a clearly ridiculous decision as the ball (and Branston) so to speak were "in play". I understand that Alun but I don't understand why he waved him on and then blew for a free kick - it doesn't make sense  . He might as well have told Branston that if you come on and make a tackle I'll blow my whistle or waited until play had moved on from the area and then waved him on. The ref needs to explain his decision. |
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Post by aussie on Apr 17, 2011 12:00:06 GMT
chelston - as I said before, the ref gave the free kick because he waved Branston back on - and immediately he did so Branston tackled their player right by the touchline. It was a clearly ridiculous decision as the ball (and Branston) so to speak were "in play". I understand that Alun but I don't understand why he waved him on and then blew for a free kick - it doesn't make sense . He might as well have told Branston that if you come on and make a tackle I'll blow my whistle or waited until play had moved on from the area and then waved him on. The ref needs to explain his decision. He can`t explain it as he only just made it up! Apparently the goal was dissallowed because the lino had spotted a foul on their defender, guy supposedly pushed their player whilst winning the header to Chris. |
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Post by rjdgull on Apr 17, 2011 12:21:06 GMT
Some of the linos have been inconsistent this season. LRT being pole-axed 2 yards in front of one springs to mind, where nothing was given and led to a goal. That's the second time Branston has been penalised in that area for an assist.  |
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Post by alunmeerkat on Apr 17, 2011 15:07:19 GMT
Chelston - sorry. As it happened right in front of me, he gave the free kick because Branston nicked the ball off their player who was running down the touchline and did not expect Branston to run on and take the ball from him.
Their bench was incensed but Branston had not done anything wrong as he had been waved onto the pitch by the ref.
The referee sort of "made up" a free kick - it wasn't a foul, Branston took the ball cleanly - you wouldn't see it happen again in a thousand games, but its why people get frustrated with referee's - he made up a rule to suit himself. There is no way he could explain that decision - he couldn't.
As for the goal - I presumed it must have been for offside. There was definately no foul by Branston. If that was the reason thats another shocking decision - no wonder our players were going mental.
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Post by rjdgull on Apr 17, 2011 15:30:42 GMT
Just read a comment on the Vale forum where a poster thought it was a perfectly good goal but that the linesman flagged and indicated pushing! |
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I spent most of the second half up in the Gulls Nest with my clothes covering the radiators, note to ones self-` never try too re-cap a high pressure blow out `!
. He might as well have told Branston that if you come on and make a tackle I'll blow my whistle or waited until play had moved on from the area and then waved him on. The ref needs to explain his decision.