The future of TUST

Rob 


That’s because no one opposes it. Go ahead and create your massive reserve fund of a couple of million quid if you want to. Launch a new pre share issue to bring in the cash and demonstrate community support. You aren’t sure of the argument because you’ve never heard it, because no one is making it.

But when they ask Trusts why the Far Left are trying to get you … and only you into the Boardrooms …. then it is a subject that you keep deadly quiet about.





Just how is it that Corbyn and Co could misrepresent a group that only want to save up some money to provide a fall back position ? How dare he think he could frogmarch such people into the Boardrooms against their will … that’s not what they’re about at all, all they’re doing is organising a fall back for a rainy day. So what we’d rather know is what legal action Supporters Direct, FSA, etc etc have taken against the Labour Party ? … how did it ever get so far that this could appear in a manifesto for the country to vote on ? …. what consultation with the Labour party took place in advance ?, why has absolutely nothing about this appeared on the TUST official thread ?

And how could exactly the same ‘mistake’ (haha, as if) happen again after Red Ed Milliband’s previous manifesto pledge ? What information did you give to fans after Milliband … in fact in all the time up until Corbyn December 2019 ? Or was it not mentioned and instead the same old … ‘we want nothing other than to create a little nest egg should the club fall on hard times’ line gets trotted out in the hope that no one outside of the Trusts keep an eye on the plotting and scheming taking place to further the actual agenda ?

Of course it could be that you’re spinning this fairytale in the hope that your opponents will die laughing ….. and you’d get away with if we keel over within 28 days of a Covid test  .


Rob 

But an even bigger idiot not to see the obvious tie-up between the extreme Left and the Trusts.

I was quite pleased to read that AJ has finally come around to accepting what a good idea it is for us fans to have that TUST fall-back position. No doubt he will have chipped into that pot as he’s clearly no idiot.

That's because nobody on here, with two exceptions, ever talks about right or left wing views in relation to football matters, as they have no relevance at all to that subject. Talk about Larry Baxter and Ernie Pym and you might be taken seriously.


I can't see that your allowable opinion has ever been restricted when it is expressed on the correct thread.

Your current choice of avatar is, of course, entirely your own prerogative, but I sincerely hope that you have another one in mind for when the ex-president's defence against his impeachment is blown away!

Hi All, I have decided to move the last few posts into the future of TUST thread as Alpine rightly suggests discussion has gone wildly off topic about our football team.

I have been on the board of TUST for the last two years now and we don’t talk politics, only football. It can be seen during the last 12 months how useful it is to have good relationships with politicians from all sides of the political spectrum. Even the Conservative manifesto set up a 150 million pound fund to encourage local take overs of community assets under threat including local football clubs. They were also to look at fit and proper ownership test. I have met a number of Exeter TUST board members and guess what, they don’t come across as a bunch of militants and while they are our rivals, respect to them, they do seem to oversee a very well run operation and let the executive get on with running the club. Of course, they were there to pick up the pieces when necessary and think it is widely accepted that for TUSTs to be in a position to do this is generally a good thing.

Having explained to Stewart that addressing a point made in one thread by posting a reply to it in a totally different thread would be nonsensical, in taking the very actions to bring that situation about, I think the Admins responsible were fairly hopeful of my likely response, so I won’t disappoint them.

The fact that rather than a reminder, or an observation that off topic posts were being made, Admin ‘liked’ some of them instead, and have now compounded that by leaving those off topic posts, particularly those that found favour still in situ. The selection of my post as the cut off point for those to be removed is therefore especially grating, compounded by the absence of even the simplest of explanations as to why my posts and opinions have been moved whereas those many others (including those by prominent TUST officials that are totally unrelated to the 2020/21 playing squad remain) is a clear enough signal. 

A final reminder that the Supporters Direct movement was created by the Blair Government as an organisation that would operate in the political arena. Our own local TUST often refers (in the football section) to its meetings, contacts, and numerous interactions with councillors, MP’s and Ministers, and to the best of my knowledge have attended at least one Party Political conference venue and meeting.

We’ve currently reached the stage where MP’s and TUST’s letters to a Minister get sent off in the same envelope.  And Government now has such control over football, particularly at our level, that its decisions on finance have become all important. And how long before he who pays the piper decides to increasingly call the tune ? Just consider the changes and social impact, or other requirements that Government can start insisting upon to further its preferred agenda, if it’s State purse strings we are forced to depend on ? And some will welcome that , as they’re perfectly entitled to.

The growing political interference, whether it be ‘Asset of Community Value’ type legislation, or a prospective Labour Government’s intention to impose TUST members into Football club boardrooms, is the unmistakable direction of travel, it wouldn’t surprise me to see the current Tories being just as happy to accept it, yet it’s the elephant in the room, and one that is central to the future of football and club ownership and how clubs are run.

I’d never had the slightest objection to people talking about Larry Baxter and Ernie Pym until the cows come home. But that book is written, and discuss it as you will, you can’t change or influence anything about those careers or those times, but if you’re also alive to the important manoeuvrings going on to shape the future, you can have a real influence in assisting or preventing football heading further along the path it is currently going down.

Actually have the discussion and consider the pros and cons ahead of time, and you won’t suddenly be blindsided by the outcome that is getting ever nearer. And in addition it’ll become clear who has been continually working to increase political influence in football and who was warning that we needed to step up our efforts significantly to push back against it.

Sincere best wishes to all. Up the Gulls !

AJ.

Has he really gone? I doubt it, someone who obviously spent a lot of his time constructing those posts is now going to have a lot of time on his hands. As they say the devil makes work...etc,etc.