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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 22:18:50 GMT
No, Stuart, that's not on the team route.
You should know that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 22:21:01 GMT
You're on to something there, Jon.
Thanks again for that lift down the old A38.
Staveley Miners Athletic and Willand Rovers it is.
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Post by Jon on Sept 26, 2012 22:52:38 GMT
calling Bernard Manning a racist. Nonsense! John Terry speaks very highly of him. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 22:58:08 GMT
Are you sure the tram network crosses in Derbyshire? I'm certain it goes no further south than the Halfway terminus which is a mile or so into present day South Yorkshire. A technicality but, yes, Sheffield trams do run on Derbyshire soil. It's the short off-road section between the White Lane and Birley Lane stops. All the stops are in Sheffield. Not quite the same, admittedly, as that bit of the West Berlin underground system that looped into East Berlin. But Wildebeeste might not see it in such light terms. |
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Post by chambta on Sept 27, 2012 6:31:57 GMT
Are you sure the tram network crosses in Derbyshire? I'm certain it goes no further south than the Halfway terminus which is a mile or so into present day South Yorkshire. A technicality but, yes, Sheffield trams do run on Derbyshire soil. It's the short off-road section between the White Lane and Birley Lane stops. All the stops are in Sheffield. Not quite the same, admittedly, as that bit of the West Berlin underground system that looped into East Berlin. But Wildebeeste might not see it in such light terms. I don't either, frankly. Is this at the top of the hill above Ridgeway where the border cuts in? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 6:45:43 GMT
I should leave it, Chambta, old son! Barton Downs tends to be armed with the information to know these things and if he says part of the tramline encroaches into Derbyshire then, trust me, it does.  Good to see this thread is moving nicely Northwards away from Mansfield. Eckington does indeed have an S for Sheffield postcode but then again so does Chesterfield and I am sorry to have to admit that my house is officially in S40 rather than CH1 which would be much more appropriate. If a reference book were to claim Sheffield as the birthplace of someone born in Eckington that would be very wrong indeed and akin to saying that a boy from Saltash was born in Plymouth. The town's population tend to follow the Blades. Eckington itself has never had a football team above local standard but did have a pitch with proper floodlight pylons on Pitt Street as long ago as the 1950s. Now why would that have been, I wonder? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 8:44:19 GMT
That's the place, Chambta, near Ridgeway. I just happened to notice it while pursuing the map habit that has dogged me since childhood: check where you're going; check where you are; check where you've bloody been.
B6388 - White Lane - heading from Ridgeway towards Gleadless. Where you enter the City of Sheffield so does the tramway coming in from the right.
Same map habit makes me check Pitt Street in Eckington. But no idea why there may have been lights there in the 1950s.
I've also developed the habit of looking at the Football Club History Database website. That's partly out of loyalty to its compiler - a bloke called Richard from Bideford (last heard of attempting to watch a game on every pitch in Cornwall) - but also because it's an A-Z of the cup and league records of thousands of football clubs.
FCHD has a listing for Eckington Works because it looks like Richard has tracked down the Sheffield League for 1892/93 when they were founder members in the company of Chesterfield Town. But there's no mention of their earlier FA Cup results which you can see at statto.com and soccerbase.com. I bet Jon knows of them because he loves the early rounds of the FA Cup: 1872, 1873, 1874......
In fact type "Eckington Works" into Google and Soccerbase is offering you the run down on the current squad, forthcoming fixtures and betting odds. Not bad for a team that there's little mention of beyond 1893. Unless Wildebeeste knows otherwise.
If reading some of this arcane football data is one thing; compiling it - and keeping it updated - must be another thing all together. I proof read a couple of non-league yearbooks a few years back and realised it's astonishing the work that is involved. Mind you, I'll confess to being a bit sloppy checking spellings when it came to the FA of Wales Trophy.
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Post by chambta on Sept 27, 2012 12:57:01 GMT
Pitt Street was Chesterfield's training ground. Typical CFC that we had a highly ambitious floodlit training ground yet had the dubious honour of being the final FL club to install lights at the ground.
I already like this Barton Downs chap and I too have a 'thing' for maps so will be checking this tram infringement later.
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Post by chambta on Sept 29, 2012 19:13:14 GMT
Are you sure the tram network crosses in Derbyshire? I'm certain it goes no further south than the Halfway terminus which is a mile or so into present day South Yorkshire. A technicality but, yes, Sheffield trams do run on Derbyshire soil. It's the short off-road section between the White Lane and Birley Lane stops. All the stops are in Sheffield. Not quite the same, admittedly, as that bit of the West Berlin underground system that looped into East Berlin. But Wildebeeste might not see it in such light terms. I've checked it out and I don't believe it touches Derbyshire soil, thankfully. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2012 19:46:14 GMT
I've checked it out and I don't believe it touches Derbyshire soil, thankfully. This is the section I noticed on the A-Z and OS:   |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2012 19:47:49 GMT
What did I bloody tell you, Chambta? |
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Post by chambta on Sept 30, 2012 19:23:44 GMT
That map needs superimposing over a Google map before I'll be convinced!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2012 19:59:10 GMT
That map needs superimposing over a Google map before I'll be convinced! Ooh. Not sure if I've that level of technology! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 6:34:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 6:58:51 GMT
As for Barnsley's runners-up position that sounds remarkably similar to the route I took to have my tea in Morrison's last night. |
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