European Union: In or Out ?

There was bullshit from both sides and it continues to this day. Never trust a politician and I ignored them and voted accordingly. Glad to hear I'm a looney though. Kinda makes sense after still supporting the once-almost-mighty Gulls for all these years...

Of course, any second referendum on accepting the terms of any deal or the status quo would only incentivise the EU to give the UK the worse possible terms so that the “right result” can then be achieved so appreciate the motivation behind this campaign. I suppose in a democracy everyone has the right to vote or to abstain but it is very important to then implement the result of any vote- ie change of government etc. There is an option to change your mind but only further down the road.

Certain irony in that we have a remainer in charge of the party taking us out of the EU and a leaver in charge of the party that would like to keep us in.

I would imagine, that most of you would know that I've been agin a second referendum since forever! I have changed my mind though for two reasons!


1) The countries stuffed any way (it's just waiting for someone to light the blue touch paper) so what does it matter if we overturn a democratic vote by the majority of the people. You can throw all sorts of numbers about, but if you can't be arsed to get your sorry arse out of bed to cast a vote, then you don't deserve to be counted in the final analysis! 


2) Treason May, is making such a disaster of her time (hopefully short) in power, that she is actually making Jezza Corbett look less of a 'Loony Tunes'............nah, that's impossible! If May had been like Farage though, we would now be out of the mitigating disaster that is the EU! If May had been like Farage, the Conservatives would be so far ahead in any leadership battle, that Labour would be consigned to history! Sadly, May is shite, which gives Labour a chance at an election. To that end...we need a precedent (I myself, have set a precedent in a court of law...a rather big one in fact) (which is what a second referendum will be) and then if we don't like something, we just change it! So should Labour actually get into power, we can say...we don't like this, we want another election...and boot them out!

Bring on the Second Referendum! 

We did. It’s been respected with the government of our country effectively shutting down for the last two and a bit years bar Brexit and getting f**k all tangible from negotiations. Blame Barnier, May, Ronnie Corbett or Brexiteers. It’s all shit, whomever you apportion the blame to.

I think their message is that when you are offered a contract, after then viewing the terms and conditions, you don’t necessarily opt to sign it if the terms are not what you had believed were part of the offer. Basic rule of business, Flo. Thought you’d be all over that one. Applies to ownership, too. You don’t buy anything without looking at the final deal and considering it first. What idiot would, right? Even with promises of jam tomorrow.

A democratic vote on the final deal seems to be the thinking of those taking part. Taking back sovereignty, if you will. Democracy at work. Some don’t like that, apparently. They had a tea party in Harrogate earlier.

I would stress that I am one of the many who want the shit all done with now. Or at least, one way or the other, by March next year. It’s paralysing our country.

The Losers March wasn't something those of us at Plainmoor could keep tabs on. But on getting home last night and checking, it seems it was the predictable crowd that turned up






But it was only this morning that I've learned that Waitrose darling Delia herself was actually there, and adding to the hilarity that Remainiacs are always guaranteed to provide  .

I already answered that re the final deal. Important to retain the words ‘final deal’, Flo, in answering your point highlighted. Scroll up. Here’s a bit of it:-

“I think their message is that when you are offered a contract, after then viewing the terms and conditions, you don’t necessarily opt to sign it if the terms are not what you had believed were part of the offer. Basic rule of business, Flo. Thought you’d be all over that one. Applies to ownership, too. You don’t buy anything without looking at the final deal and considering it first. What idiot would, right? Even with promises of jam tomorrow”.