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Post by Rob on Sept 29, 2017 18:25:59 GMT
Another week, another UKIP leader. And a rebrand with the Premier League logo, too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 8:20:02 GMT
I notice that Boris gave a stirring speech yesterday in the Tory conference, which is just what this country needs at this time of leaving the basket case of the EU! Instead we have the wishy washy May, who we all know will get Jack Shit out of the EU plonkers! People perceive Boris as being stupid and indeed slightly mad, but oh how he would shake things up. On the other hand, Corbett is perceived as being almost normal by many! When in reality, he is so far removed from...well reality, that he should join the Labour party! Wait a minute...
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Post by Rob on Oct 5, 2017 1:52:58 GMT
Boris Johnson is a national embarrassment perceived as an opportunistic buffoon by people of all political persuasions for good reason.
No doubt highly intelligent, Party Conference season is a showman's stage for this student of student debating. Many of his fellow Conservative MP's, however, are reported to be calling for him to go following his latest demonstration of why he is palpably unfit to carry out the role of foreign secretary.
It's not gone swimmingly for him as respected international figure and political statesman so far. I really don't foresee that changing any time soon. He'd shit himself if his ambitions were realised and he had to preside over the mess instead of bickering about it from the sidelines. And he'd be tied in ruddy nots by better negotiators, too.
Anyway, hasn't the clown been sacked yet over his Libya comments? Can't be too long before he is relieved of foreign office duties now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2017 9:21:02 GMT
I'm guessing you're a remainer Rob? Which means you are quite happy to let our Theresa sell this country down the river with her watered down version of Brexit! I on the other hand don't really care who does it as long as they fight our corner, which she is clearly not doing! Yes, Boris is certainly a strange character ( that's what this country needs though, someone with character ) but give me him any day to fight our corner, or Nigel or even Corbett...Well, maybe not Corbett! We were never going to get out of the EU without a brouhaha of course, as can be seen at the moment. Hopefully, the EU will implode before too long...Catalonia...Mass Immigration...seemingly it owes 20 Trillion (which it will expect us to pay of course)...I could go on! The EU is a basket case, if only we had a basket case to get us out of it...wait a minute!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2017 13:44:25 GMT
Register At least with the proper Left Wing authoritarians who openly admit they voted for Britain to continue being subjugated to the rule of Juncker & Co, who must surely cheer on the Spanish State forces bashing in the heads of Catalan voters, and who openly admit to their TUST membership, there's no confusion as to where they stand. However, it's the Tory Party who will on the one hand feign concern that we need to stand up to Brussels and properly implement the British people's majority decision to get well shot of the E.U, while at the same time overwhelmingly electing Remainer May as Party Leader, who are the biggest threat to our future. You don't even need to have both eyes open to know Corbett would come in with a Venezuelan style wrecking ball and knock Britain back to the 1970's. At least it's crystal clear what you'd end up with if you vote him in. Yet May is advocating Ed Miliband lite policies....it's just a matter of how far to the left our hopeless politicians manage to take us. Of course, ideally they would prefer the job to still be done for them by the ruling European elites such as former Communist, Angela 'Let Them All In' Merkel. Until Britain can rid itself of the scourge of Socialists in Tory clothing, there will be plenty more trouble ahead.
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Post by Rob on Oct 5, 2017 16:56:07 GMT
I was more interested in what you said about Boris Johnson, Reg. Brexit/Remain, left/centre/right, British/foreign. There's plenty across the political spectrum who view him in the way I described. The latest Conservative backlash against him really only serves to highlight the point.
Sorry to hear AJ that you consider the Conservative Party to have too many 'Reds in the Bed'. You'll be decrying multi-leader UKIP as lefties soon. That's if you haven't already.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 8:23:12 GMT
I was more interested in what you said about Boris Johnson, Reg. Brexit/Remain, left/centre/right, British/foreign. There's plenty across the political spectrum who view him in the way I described. The latest Conservative backlash against him really only serves to highlight the point. Sorry to hear AJ that you consider the Conservative Party to have too many 'Reds in the Bed'. You'll be decrying multi-leader UKIP as lefties soon. That's if you haven't already. Oh.
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Post by Rob on Oct 6, 2017 16:28:01 GMT
I was more interested in what you said about Boris Johnson, Reg. Brexit/Remain, left/centre/right, British/foreign. There's plenty across the political spectrum who view him in the way I described. The latest Conservative backlash against him really only serves to highlight the point. Sorry to hear AJ that you consider the Conservative Party to have too many 'Reds in the Bed'. You'll be decrying multi-leader UKIP as lefties soon. That's if you haven't already. Oh. Yeah. Was surprised there was still anyone thinking he was doing a good job after this week of all weeks, tbh. Each to their own.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 10:38:28 GMT
Yeah. Was surprised there was still anyone thinking he was doing a good job after this week of all weeks, tbh. Each to their own. It's horses for courses for me on this one. Boris was of course somewhat insensitive on his 'pick up the dead bodies' jibe, but is he any worse than what we have or indeed could have! Let's start with the PM: could we actually get anyone worse to lead us out of the EU? Well, actually we could...the following lot for example! The previous incumbent who lied through his teeth with his oppo Osborne, about the dangers of leaving the EU...90% of which have been proven a load of bollocks! Then across the street you have Corbett, who wouldn't recognize the truth if it came up and bit him on the arse! He of course likes the Venezuelan way of looking after his people...keep them subdued and lock the bastards up if they cause any trouble! Still, nothing new from Labour there then! On top of that, for some reason, Corbett also hates the Teapot Lids! Oh, and don't get me started on the abhorrent Blair and the odious Brown! No, it's Boris all the way for me, he's no worse or better than the rubbish we have had since Maggie got stabbed in the back! We don't need a remainer to take us out of the EU, we need Boris...or at least someone with a pair of balls!
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Post by Rob on Oct 7, 2017 22:45:16 GMT
Heseltine was far more principled compared to the shifting sands that is BJ. He stepped down from a cabinet position in 1986 and challenged leadership from outside that cabinet after four years, resisting the clamour of others from within his parliamentary party to challenge a leader growing in unpopularity from 1989 to his eventual role, after both the resignations of Lawson and, most importantly Howe, in her downfall in November 1990. He stood for something, whether you agreed with his stance or not. BJ stands for absolutely nothing but himself. He is considerably later to the Brexit party than Reg's mate Corbett, and merely adopted Brexit as part of a leadership strategy to challenge his old student debating Bullingdon understudy and upstart, Cameron, and is bickering from inside this Cabinet.
Heseltine resigned from cabinet as he disagreed with the position of the leadership. BJ? Heseltine was published extensively already on potential differences that might emerge with his own position on Europe and his party leader before entering office and when his leader's views and his own clashed over Westland in 1986, he took his leave and resigned from office. He wasn't the only one to do the same. By contrast, BJ is a f**k**g coward and would shit himself if his bluff was called and he was crowned before the current mess of Brexit reaches 24 months.
BJ's impassioned pro-immigration comments immediately after the referendum result with the only audience being preached to his leadership voting parliamentary party colleagues and his reactivation of the bullshit NHS cash windfall bus pledge recently merely underline his unprincipled and opportunistic nature. He wants a distance from this mess while sat at the Foreign Office. Look at him cowering and showering his praise of May tonight while he assesses which of the half who want her gone and which of the half who want him gone might sway at a later date. He's already working on a strategy to counter May's promised Florence speech revision promised by her for Tuesday. All while still holding a position in her cabinet.
No, the Heseltine comparison might have similarity on the surface, Flo, but you are talking about two very different characters here imo. Interesting that it is Heseltine that the news are going to for sound bites about BJ presently, though. Him and Ken Clarke.
None of the established political parties particularly come out of the Brexit debacle with much credit. Conversely, BJ is only interested in what credit he might get out of his party from it. Currently, they are seeing through the shifting sands of his naked ambition and game play. Never mind - the student debate enthusiast and national embarrassment will keep on coming, I'm sure. It's all a Bullingdon Club game to him, after all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 9:37:21 GMT
Well bugger me with the rough end of a pineapple, I see that John Major has arisen from the grave, and says all ministers who have conspired against our Theresa should get the boot! He who stabbed our Maggie in the back so many times she was almost the second British PM to be assassinated! Why do they do this, when their time is over why can't they just sod off somewhere! You know the ones: Blair, Brown, Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Corbett...SOD OFF!
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Post by Rob on Oct 8, 2017 14:26:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 15:00:07 GMT
Goodness, now Boris is responsible for us leaving the EU! Imagine what he could do if he actually ran the country! I see that Junkers is now speaking to Corbett and Labour in a bid for them to overturn the will of the British people! Still, nothing new from Labour there then! I don't understand that at all, because Corbett has got about as much clout as CoCo The Clown...wait a minute!
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Post by Rob on Oct 8, 2017 17:02:13 GMT
It's the right wing press writing this stuff. In the case of the Sunday Telegraph, it's BJ himself.
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Post by Rob on Oct 8, 2017 17:07:03 GMT
1. Goodness, now Boris is responsible for us leaving the EU! 2. Imagine what he could do if he actually ran the country! 1. Says who? You'd probably only find BJ saying that, depending on who his audience was at the time. 2. Yeah, imagine that.
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