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Post by petef on Dec 19, 2016 17:12:59 GMT
Durrell Berry leaves Truro.
What useles and impotent excuse for a paper the H&E has become dribs and drabs of stuff we all know about hours before top repeorter DT has got out of bed.
What a waste of time. Investigative journalism at its worst.
Come on Thomas get in their and stir some shit!!
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Post by simonb on Dec 19, 2016 17:30:12 GMT
One of the big issues over dealings of the last couple of years or so has been the crescendo of a total lack of credibility resulting in a complete lack of faith in our "custodians". They have repeatedly failed to learn anything from a continuous series of mistakes as a result of which, today's fiasco was I suppose entirely to be expected! Clearly Phillips is totally incompetent and should never have had his hands on anything to do with TUFC.
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Post by Rob on Dec 19, 2016 18:36:19 GMT
He's released his side of why he considered it had to be GI now in the HE. Very much how many would have anticipated it would read whether considering him an incompetent or not.
Today's events pretty much confirm he is yesterday's news in any event. He is expected now to be the new owners' patsy transitional chairman and I'm sure he will give it his best shot for however long he's required.
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Post by rjdgull on Dec 19, 2016 18:41:01 GMT
Herald update - update from Dave Phillips this evening. Confirming that no one else were prepared to put up the money needed apart from that nice GI. Of course, they were not looking to get any money back from the club. Oh, it was this takeover or administration. That's ok then - except it just doesn't stack up and I don't believe him. Edit - crossed posts with Rob somewhat, agree, pretty much predictable.
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Post by loyaltygull on Dec 19, 2016 18:43:42 GMT
Told us lies said it wasnt gi taking over so dont believe a word that comes out his shitter tell a lie then everything else could be
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Post by Joe on Dec 19, 2016 19:01:43 GMT
stop gi? let the fans keep there club plese. you will get your money back in time.
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Post by petef on Dec 19, 2016 19:16:01 GMT
I think its wrong to accuse him of lying without knowing the full facts.
I reckon his and the silence from the club over the entire afair has stemmed from the many personal insults and confrontations that were brewing. He knew many were unhappy about the course the ship was taking and the phrase "Keyboard one handed self lovers " comes to mind, one of the last comments before the long silence. Continuing any sort of dialogue would only have achieved a deeper rift between club and fans. Steve Breed certainly paid a price for trying to justify hiself and the decisions the club were making on one particualr forum.
He was on a hiding to nothing and I witnessed some dreadful abuse and disrespect and personally told him through the forum not to respond or even post a comment.
Personally I doubt Phillips is lying about this and the boards writing off of their investment because he would eventually be found out.
The denial of GI 's involvement is a puzzle and a question that he should be asked because it does reek of of an intended deception which will inevitably rile the fan base.
.Maybe he was just buying time and thought it was a good idea to decieve us all. Phillips and his board. lets not forget them they are just as responsible for this sittuaton, do need to be put on the spot on these issues its important if he wants to maintain any sort of relationship with the fan base.
Yes the rest of the board of directors they are getting off rather lightly here. They all wanted out before they incured even more debt. Glad they have all gone none of them were prepared to take a share of the balme or take some responsibility, all as quite as church mice.
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Post by loyaltygull on Dec 19, 2016 19:37:31 GMT
Sorry didnt he make a statement saying gi were not involved in taking over sorry if i am wrong and that being the case makes him a liar jeez
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Post by rjdgull on Dec 19, 2016 19:40:30 GMT
They may well have got nothing. They were certainly looking for something and even reported on Friday that they got it. link They have left negotiations to another football chairman and previous preferred bidder which is at best, daft. |
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Post by rjdgull on Dec 19, 2016 19:52:44 GMT
Sorry didnt he make a statement saying gi were not involved in taking over sorry if i am wrong and that being the case makes him a liar jeez To be fair, they said GI were not one of the parties with interest in the club at the forum. I think that was true but all other interest has fallen away since - no doubt not helped by an unrealistic asking price ( modest detached house ) and maybe the loan deal terms. |
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Post by chelstongull on Dec 19, 2016 19:58:53 GMT
Bumped into Nicho and family up at the Dumpling earlier this evening and I men tiond that I'd see him on Boxing Day and he said "Yep" or words to that effect.
Came back to something on the news that all is not well with the GI takeover, no statement etc.
Anyone catch the full programme?
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Post by loyaltygull on Dec 19, 2016 20:07:29 GMT
Tough for him right now chelstongull
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Post by Rob on Dec 19, 2016 20:54:49 GMT
I don't wish to know and nor do I need to or feel entitled to know what the going rate is for a transitional patsy chairman to a property developer to calculate who has lost what.
I feel his possible shame or embarrassment as someone who has no doubt loved and may still love this club, but only he will know if he has lost out financially. He has said his part. Many are challenging it this evening, but tomorrow not yesterday is what we're dealing with.
Like everyone else, I'm more concerned about my club's future.
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Post by petef on Dec 19, 2016 21:50:59 GMT
Spot on Rob.
I do feel for Nico and all of the staff must be so unsettling and the are all bound by confidentialty clauses.
No doubt they know all thats gone on but are unable to reveal.
Have a feeling we will get to the truth one day and it will probably shock us all.
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Post by hector on Dec 20, 2016 0:47:32 GMT
There is no evidence, either, to suggest that had the set of circumstances existed that Jon describes, that it would not have succeeded. And yes, if clubs like Lewes , Bath, Newport, in their own contexts can summon up enough will and desire to make it work, then there is no reason why a club with a much bigger level of support could not have made it work. No one is pretending TUST would have led the club back to the Football League but no one believes GI will either. The issue is, supporters were never given a chance. Peter Masters tried to buy the club in 2915 but couldn't because he already owned Truro ( even I could have told him that) and ever since, he has been 'advising' the club. That almost seems corrupt. Someone advising the club, steering it, no doubt, in a way that suits them. His attitude to fans is fairly well documented. I find it an utter outrage that this board of supposed fans of the club, have had their head turned and their choices influenced by Masters putting his own interests first. Quite right Hector nobody has a clue whether " a call to arms from the club" as a Jon suggests would or woud not have been successful. Personally I believe it would have ended up as a damp squib with no foundation. Lewes, Bath and Newport havent really progressed to any degree - Tust ownership would still have been a gamble and reckon the best we could have hoped for would have been short term survival with the club continuing to stagnate and decline. Where exactly were the funds going to come from to actualy move the club forward if the club became community owned let alone finance to keep it running day to day and keep the wolves from the door. I suspect we would have been left with a football club that continued to tick along in limbo with limited ambition. I reckon Phillips and co felt exactly the same and were eventually prepared to take the gamble with this lot. And yes it is a gamble but I see no other reason why Phillips would have gone down this route other than seeing a better future for the club, one that could progress and be self financing. Believe what you like but I see no reason why the now despised Phillips and his directors would sell the club short - what did they honestly have to gain and dont suggest it was solely to see theeir investment back! I am certain they see this route as the best route to move the club forward in the long term and not just tick along barely surviving week to week. Do we honestly want that , a skeleton of a club TUFC in nname only but with no substance? If there is the slightest prospect of progress under this new regime compared to ticking along as we are ten I would take the gamble as personally Im fed up with asupporting a club that continues to nosedive. This is more than likely last throw of the dice for this club ansd see no point in rocking the boat or organising a witch hunt until we know ALL of the facts. I think the prospects of a rosy-ish future would have far more likely under TUST than GI, even if the odds were still pretty low. I don't think David Phillips has thought about anything - he has simply done what Peter Masters has told him to do. Ask yourself why Peter Masters is patting himself on the back and proclaiming how proud he is of himself for the part in this deal? Our football club should be nothing to do with him and yet TUFC supporters have been denied the opportunity for a bit of self-determination so that Peter Masters can profit in some way. The club is screwed now and supporters options limited. If we go to the matches, we give GI the revenue they want and if we boycott we give GI what they want in terms of running down the club.Therefore, the answer maybe a display of the sort of strategies being deployed by Charlton fans, such as throwing plastic pigs onto the pitch - things that are perhaps a little disruptive. The new owners need to appreciate the strength of feeling, not that it probably matters to them. Their past record leaves so much to be desired, I find it astonishing that there are fans willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. They are property developers. Nothing good ever comes out of this sot of scenario. |
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