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Quite pathetic journalism.

They print total rubbish about Milton Keynes being a success. None of the development there promised by Osborne has happened. They say it is a venue with a 65,000 capacity. It is a field not a stadium.

They say Reading is still operational. No it isn't.

Swindon? Houses successfully built of course.

The fact that Clarke Osborne has failed to deliver on any of his many development promises does not necessarily mean that he will fail to deliver on this one.

It does mean that only a fool would fail to question his ability - or even his intention - to deliver on this one.

There are more fools around than I would like to see, but thankfully far fewer than Clarke Osborne thinks.

Mark Twain.

Seen the plans for the new souper dooper stadium had a right giggle its never coming too fruition utter utter bullshit who did the plan an 8 year old?

Agree and if anybody dares come on here now and says it a great great plan they are nothing short of taking the piss or have something seriously wrong with them

There would appear to be (and quite rightly so IMO) a lot of scepticism regarding Mr Osbornes plans.

Reading a comment on the other site, costs are likely to be in the region £40,000,000 and could be recouped within 3 to 5 years.

I await Clarke Osbournes AJ take on things...

Scepticism from certain quarters is quite understandable. We're natural sceptics to start with in this part of the world. For any committed TUST member it's your duty to demonstrate scepticism as loudly as you can, and shout it from the rooftops regularly. As I've explained frequently, TUST have no option other than to do everything they can to prevent the club moving from Plainmoor. Their dream of realising TUFC ownership rests almost entirely on a basis of having cheap council subsidised playing facilities as a starting point.

Are some people getting the wrong idea about the type of detail that could be finalised and put out to the public even before the whole scheme has been given the go ahead?. Even on investment, some interested and claiming they'd want to be involved 12 months ago, may be in a very different position now. It costs a lot, not just to hold the meetings, and in executive man hours, to agree on who wants in and who wants out, and who would fund what and where in a £40 million project. You don't or can't finalise getting all that cash together, when there's not even been clear indication that the scheme will be allowable in the first place.

The unfortunately over-vocal local MP, is like a crop sprayer dousing everything in scepticism and Coventry tainted negativity. Goodness knows how many potential investors he's managing to discourage, as they conclude they don't want the hassle of fighting important officialdom who appear dead set on stopping the project.

The Council haven't even come out and said they'd be delighted if they're able to eventually give the green light to facilities such as these (and possibly because they can't get a word in because Riviera Macron is grabbing all the publicity for himself, as he talks down the project at every opportunity, much to the delight of our favourite 'Fans Representatives' who must be thrilled with the job their pin-up boy is doing).

Should the Council eventually show some inclination that the scheme can go ahead, will it not be Council planners who have a big say in what roads can go where, how much parking they'll agree to, where the station will be located, etc etc. Along with where the housing can be built. And can many, if any of those decisions be made at this early stage until the ground is thoroughly examined and we know what would be suitable for what ? Only when the vast number of Council regulations and restrictions, plus further concerns of crotchety locals have been factored in, would you ever even begin to get an idea of what you were left to work with so that you would feel justified in forking out the enormous sums needed for detailed plans to be drawn up for a £40 million project. CO isn't going to throw that type of money away while the Council keep schtum, and while Riviera Macron gives his best impression of a man determined to kill the project.

From what I can gather, those at the meeting were told the type of things envisaged. And along with the Mayor he helped explain this better with the aid of concept illustrations. The Council might only agree to envisage something radically different. Come to an agreement on that, and then you can move on to detailed plans.

Thinking or labelling concept drawings used to help explain to an audience at a presentation as 'plans' seems to be conjuring up inaccurate expectations with some.  If the project ever gets consent and the Council fully involves itself, then you can go to your drawing board and come up with something far more detailed, as you'll know the Council's strict parameters that you have to work within, you'll have a bureaucrat stood at each shoulder while you draw, and you'll eventually have a thorough understanding of the site and what's possible and what isn't.

The only thing that was illustrated in detail last night, was the paltry level of opposition that TUST could muster in it's supposed heartland of Torbay. Stopping the whole of our region enjoying a vast investment bringing badly needed modern leisure facilities, as it would run counter to a small group of aged Socialists dream to 'own' a football club would be total madness. But if they succeed in getting it stopped, the level of anger that the people of South Devon would demonstrate towards that small ideologically driven group most responsible, might not be a pretty sight.