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Post by plainmoorpete on Jun 13, 2019 13:39:29 GMT
McVey last with 9 votes and eliminated. Mutton dressed as lamb.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 11:15:12 GMT
JAVID FIGHTS ON !
.... while Cricket Candidate concedes
Always on a sticky wicket given his wet Remainiac views, Matt Hancock, the self styled Cricket candidate, aiming to become Prime Minister based in the main on his ability to fling himself around his office and catch a ball, has this morning removed his own stumps and made the lonely walk back to the pavilion. Hancock, already over-promoted in relation to his severely limited ability, should never have been in the race to start with. Stewart's attempts to now get Esther Mcvey reinstated to the contest, given that Hancock has voluntarily pulled out, are likely to get short shrift from Tory top brass, although most TFF members will wish him well in this endeavor. But let's stay local today, and examine the faltering progress of Sajid 'Spock Ears' Javid, who as we're all aware has the loyal support and backing of our very own Riviera Macron. Three measly votes more than the hapless Hancock, but as yet Javid, seen above with Jeremy Corbyn, has refused to do the decent thing and bring the curtain down on his futile attempt to become leader. Of course he's not been helped by allowing his true colours to be so obviously exposed earlier this week. Think back to that slick video put out by Team Saj, portraying him as a man of the people, happily at home in a greasy spoon cafe enjoying beans on toast and drinking tea from a chipped mug. Yet what did we see just a couple of days later ? Saj throwing an almighty tantrum because he wasn't allowed to go to a black tie banquet at Buckingham Palace. 'But, but, but, Theresa In Trousers (Jeremy Hunt) is going, why can't I go too ?' screeched a petulant Saj, as he stamped his feet in frustration. Jolly un-Prime Ministerial if you ask me, and enough of an insight into the true Sajid Javid, to suggest we're best giving him a wide berth. At the same time, and in marked contrast, Michael Gove was being far more reasonable about things. Casting our minds back to the Fake News posted by a TUST Militant within the President Trump thread on June 4th, you'll remember reading 'Meeting Gove and Hunt as well', whereas the truth of the matter was that only ' Theresa In Trousers' was summoned for a meeting with President Trump. In fairness to him, Gove took this snub in fairly laid back style. Whether his lack of concern was in any way connected to some 'talcum powder' getting up his nose, we may never know, but the air of entitlement that Saj was claiming for himself was noticeably lacking in Gove, and all the better he came across for it. Old Spock Ears is going to have to ramp things up to warp factor 8, if his leadership bid is going to achieve the lift off it needs to project him to the level of serious rival to Bojo. In the meantime it's a case of wait and see, just as it will probably be the weekend before we know if Stewart has been successful in getting Esther back in the fight.
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Post by Rob on Jun 14, 2019 22:48:06 GMT
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Post by plainmoorpete on Jun 19, 2019 9:31:52 GMT
A Channel 4 news poll of Conservative Party members found that 61% of them would find significant damage to the British economy acceptable if Britain left EU with no deal. Thing is, would the general public and the electorate find it acceptable? It would be odd if Boris Johnson's legacy as prime minister was Jeremy Corbyn getting the keys to No.10.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 10:57:15 GMT
THE CIRCUS ROLLS ONFor those of us with no residential connections to Torbay, it’s frustrating not to be able to join in with the tentative history of where Torquay players lived. Having a carpet laid at Alpine Towers a couple of decades ago by Jimmy Blain ( link - Carpet King, Jimmy Blain), falls well short of the qualifying criteria on several fronts, but the thread is most enjoyable nonetheless. But you only needed to have tuned into BBC1 to join in with this one, and what a shocker of an hour’s television was dished up for us last night. A ‘Blind Date of candidates makes for excruciating television’ as the front page of today’s Telegraph so rightly proclaims. The public service aspect of it from the BBC’s point of view I can understand, but it was still shockingly bad. With a substantial proportion of the Tory Party membership being quite elderly, and unlikely to be able to get out to hear candidates in person during the coming weeks, they would be pleased to be able to remain at home in their armchairs while the candidates appeared on the telly. And the least they should expect, given that the BBC will now be landing most of them with a big bill should they wish to carry on watching television in future. Would any leadership candidate feel they came out of last night with their reputation enhanced ? I somehow doubt it. So who messed up most? I’d nominate Sajid Javid for railroading his fellow ‘contestants’ into nodding along with his suggestion of an independent enquiry into Islamophobia within the Party. How do you point fingers at Labour about anti-semitism, when you’ve just conceded that Islamophobia is now a problem of such seriousness within your own Party, and neither can you be trusted to weed it out and solve it yourself, that an independent examination into the situation is warranted ? Will the Tory MP’s grasp this quickly enough, and in sufficient numbers to punish Javid at the ballot box today ? Will members of Conservative clubs in Torbay be asking in disbelief why Riviera Macron is backing Javid to become PM ? And also young Roderick, whose most memorable contribution was in ripping his tie off barely 10 minutes into the programme. Other than that advocating a Lib Dem/ New Labour solution to any question posed. You can just imagine the Tory membership at home, declaring ‘What the blazes is this young nincompoop doing pretending to be a Tory ??’ Hunt admitting he was a bit too severe on areas of the NHS at times. Again not what the target audience are much interested in hearing, as they’ll have a costly BUPA policy tucked away in a drawer. BoJo’s red meat offering of Brexit by the end of October, and tax cuts if you’re already not short of a penny, was much more like it, and might have raised a half-hearted cheer among those that matter at home. But all that was really achieved was to make the likes of Rees-Mogg and Nigel Farage, appear much more Prime Ministerial than any of five perched on those silly high chairs last night.
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Post by Rob on Jun 19, 2019 17:31:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 18:49:25 GMT
RODERICK RUNS OUT OF ROAD.....(Guardian candidate ousted)As Rob states, it's the end of the road for young Rodders. I've seen it suggested that the BBC are already trying to play the same trick as on Euro Election night "If you add up all the votes Rory didn't get and ignore them, that would mean Rory has won this round" - BBC NewsNot even young Roderick demanding a second confirmatory vote, or suggesting that MP's didn't know what they were voting for can get this overturned. It looks very much as though many Tory Party members were so outraged by Blairite Roderick getting into the last five that a lot of angry phone calls were made from the constituencies this morning. As a result 10 Tory MP's came to their senses and dropped Roderick like a hot potato. Rodders vote total got severely chopped from 38 in the previous round, down to 28. And so now that the Guardian candidate is out, we're left with Bojo, Theresa In Trousers, Cokehead, and Spock Ears. Riviera Macron's man lives to fight another day, and should Boris want to particularly get rid of either Hunt or Gove, he has enough spare votes to lend to Saj in order to see one of his bigger rivals get knocked out next. Either way, all the votes take place tomorrow so that we'll know the final two by the end of the day.
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Post by rjdgull on Jun 20, 2019 17:14:09 GMT
After 2 more votes today a straight choice between Boris and Hunt!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 17:28:00 GMT
If Boris looses this, it will be the biggest stitch up in the history of British politics! Who would have thought that Boris would ever become PM?
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Post by stefano on Jun 20, 2019 17:55:15 GMT
Who would have thought that Boris would ever become PM? I would be delighted as despite his bluster he is the most likely to keep the UK where it needs to be in the EU. I would not be surprised to see Jeremy Hunt become PM though. He is the most credible having actually had a proper job in business and not starting as a career politician, and he has massively more actual political experience than Johnson including having responsibility as a Cabinet Minister for the 5th largest employer in the world.
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Post by Rob on Jun 20, 2019 18:31:03 GMT
Who would have thought that Boris would ever become PM? I would be delighted as despite his bluster he is the most likely to keep the UK where it needs to be in the EU.. If Parliament chooses not to opt for a cliff edge Brexit, one thing he won’t want to do is lose the keys to Number 10, and if it means kicking the can down Garden Bridge to keep hold of those keys, he will. Don’t think my local MP, the People’s Jeremy, has a prayer though, Stefano.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 18:31:43 GMT
Who would have thought that Boris would ever become PM? I would be delighted as despite his bluster he is the most likely to keep the UK where it needs to be in the EU. I would not be surprised to see Jeremy Hunt become PM though. He is the most credible having actually had a proper job in business and not starting as a career politician, and he has massively more actual political experience than Johnson including having responsibility as a Cabinet Minister for the 5th largest employer in the world. This whole Brexit debacle is a clear case of making something complicated, that isn't complicated! It reminds me of the French at Dien Bien Phu! The boss of Wetherspoons has it right, keep it simple! Every time May put up her crap ideas, he would say bollox and come up with a perfectly acceptable (easy) alternative...everyone of which, was booted in the trash bin! Every morning when May had her shave...instead of reaching for Harry's Razor...she should have contemplated Occam's Razor!
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Post by Rob on Jun 20, 2019 18:33:03 GMT
Who would have thought that Boris would ever become PM? I would be delighted as despite his bluster he is the most likely to keep the UK where it needs to be in the EU.. If Parliament chooses not to opt for a cliff edge Brexit, one thing he won’t want to do is lose the keys to Number 10, and if it means kicking the can down Garden Bridge to keep hold of those keys, he will. Don’t think my local MP, the People’s Jeremy, has a prayer though, Stefano. Farage wants his electoral pact, but the untrustworthiness of both charlatans means that’s unlikely to get far past the soundbite stage.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 7:48:40 GMT
plainmoorpete An interesting question posed by Pete. And given the regularity with which we’re informed ‘It’s the economy, stupid’ (a phrase originating as far back as Bill Clinton’s successful 1992 Presidential campaign) as being the issue that will always sway the public at voting time, then the instinctive answer is that ‘significant’ damage to the economy throws up big trouble for any Prime Minister. However, is it possible that we have recently entered an era where that oft-repeated maxim is no longer the be all and end all ? That economic factors may no longer squeeze out entirely almost any other concern, particularly when the electorate evaluate the alternative to dispensing with BoJo i.e getting Prime Minister Corbyn instead, is well worthy of some consideration. Firstly, we’ve got a generation of young voters coming through who protest against any sign of economic growth wherever they might see it. If the wind farms aren’t providing enough energy to power your iphone today, then try again tomorrow. The cult of Greta, ordering her disciples to lie down in the road and stop the traffic in London for a week was a sign of things. And as we saw at the Euro Elections, the Lefty Hippy types leaving or still at Universities will vote for The Green Party in astonishingly large numbers. Advocating a return to the plough and the horse and cart, and knitting all your own clothes, they can hardly then turn around and tell Boris that they want a modern growing economy with crate loads of consumer goods on the shelves. And if we’re out of the EU, we couldn’t get back in without adopting the Euro. Bang goes the old days of having an independent economic policy with control over our own currency. But younger voters are probably willing to accept that. But they will be accepting it in the knowledge that youth unemployment in Greece, Spain, Italy etc is chronically bad, double our levels I expect …..which would further underline that avoiding significant damage to the economy isn’t much of an issue when you examine their list of priorities. Then you’ve got those from about 50 and upwards, and who studied some basic history at school, and who realise that however bad your economy is, applying Corbyn’s socialism to it will drag things much further down. If you really want to see ‘significant’ damage to the economy, Mr.Corbyn and Mr McDonnell will arrange a lesson that you’ll never forget. Wasn’t it just last week that a guest on BBC 2’s lunchtime ‘Politics Live’ reminded us: “Socialism always begins with a universal vision for the brotherhood of man and ends with people having to eat their own pets.” The over 50’s are sufficiently well aware of this, having witnessed the outcome of Socialist regimes around the world, that such a prospect concerns them more than enough to grant Boris time to overcome any teething problems a return to a free and self governing UK might throw up. A basic rule of thumb, that if the answer is Corbyn then you must be asking the wrong question, is still a very good guide. Prime Minister BoJo would take some stick of course, but he’ll only need to issue the simple threat of ‘Shall I stand aside and let Mr.Corbyn have a go instead ?’ in order to get the majority of people urging him not to consign us to that fate. On top of which, other than on the subject of Brexit, (and even that relies on him keeping his word) BoJo isn’t very Right wing at all on anything much else, particularly social issues. Why ever else would the hordes of Lefty Londoners have elected him, rather than a Labour candidate as their Mayor ? Green issues, Gay issues, free love , and other favourite stuff that the yoof champion; Bojo can point to a number of successes…..his string of kids for a start. Compare that with a fuddy duddy stuffed skirt like Rees Mogg, hemmed in by old fashioned conventions, and still waking up next to the same woman he did 30 years ago. Bojo still putting it about, and generally with a younger woman each time, just goes to prove his vitality and his connection with modern Britain. His forthright defence of the Muslim community and their right to choose their own mode of dress will continue to be a vote winner in London and many other cities in Britain. And not to forget that BoJo is basically a Muslim himself, as he made clear on a couple of occasions when he was allowed to get a word in during the rigged Biased Broadcasting Association ‘debate’ at the start of the week. Bojo is the free, independent, diversity candidate….with plenty of prosperity thrown in for good measure. By contrast Jezza & MvDonnell’s offering of a grey 1960’s Soviet style economy will be fully exposed in the most clear terms by Bojo, in a way that a closet Socialist like Remainer May never could with any sincere conviction. No one has ever or will ever head to the Polling Stations claiming ‘I’m voting Corbyn for economic growth’ without also collapsing in fits of laughter. The prospect of a Jezza economy will always strike fear into people’s hearts, rather than be any kind of vote winner.
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Post by stefano on Jun 21, 2019 9:26:12 GMT
Don’t think my local MP, the People’s Jeremy, has a prayer though, Stefano. Although I have not got a vote myself I do know a few people who have - I'm working on them!
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