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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 14:28:09 GMT
TFF ELECTION SPECIAL
There’s a long campaign ahead before we reach December 12th, and so no undue hurry to get our General Election thread up and running. And while the British Political arena leaves a lot to be desired, despite the slight improvement in being able to wave goodbye to Tom Watson, who has trashed what semblance of a reputation he had, with his now fully discredited antics over the past few years that we’ve seen condemned by all sides. Even Watson eventually accepted he couldn’t brazen this out, and has decided to depart the scene.
But what madness it was saddling dear old Jezza with a charlatan like Fatboy Watson as his deputy ? Did the Labour membership vote to make things as difficult as possible ? It’s like voting for Adam Schiff to be Trump’s Vice President or for Rory Fallon to be Jamie Reid’s striking partner rather than Psycho Janner ! Were the Labour membership preferring to have a laugh rather than a smoothly functioning Party leadership set up ?
But anyway. Piers Corbyn tells me the weather forecast for around about and including December 12th, will be snow, ice, wet and cold….and very dark. The Party that wins this Election will be the Party with the greater access to 4x4’s and able to most successfully find a method (sledge or otherwise) of getting their supporters to a Polling Station. Of course, this is also going to put huge extra significance on postal votes, which will be sent off in the more pleasant weather before the Arctic weather closes in as the days tick up towards the 12th. That’s one good bit of good news for Jezza, as he’s a big favourite among those filling in postal votes.
So whether you intend voting Riviera Macron, Fuhrer Swinson, TUST Militant, Sarah Wollaston, Barnsley Buddhist, Osborne Appreciation, or Green Party….the TFF Election thread will be the place to be. A signed Esther McVey photo for all contributors*
Moderate or Militant, all are welcome.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 16:05:59 GMT
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Post by Rob on Nov 7, 2019 16:59:05 GMT
Hasn’t the Clown ruled out a pact with the Fruitcake because the Fruitcake claims the Clown’s Deal is May’s reheated one and not Brexit?
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Post by stewart on Nov 7, 2019 19:19:04 GMT
Well, I have already made up my mind already whom I shall be voting for: none of them have the slightest appeal for me. The three principal leaders make me want to puke every time I see them on TV, and it is so obvious from their parties' stated policies and tactical voting that self-interest is their main motivation.
I am a staunch advocate of leave, as must be clear by now, but sadly I cannot bring myself to vote for the Brexit party either, as they have no other policies and will have little to contribute after the Election. They have very little chance of gaining many, if any, seats anyway, as people seem more likely to accept Johnson's softer route.
So, for the first time in over 50 years, I shall be sitting quietly at home while others are rushing to the polling station this time.
As you know, Rob, I agree with your description of Johnson, but Fruitcake? I would like to see you stand in front of hundreds of people for an hour or so and speak coherently and intelligently without any notes! You may despise what he stands for, but he is very far from being an idiot or nutcase as you describe him.
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Post by Rob on Nov 7, 2019 20:04:55 GMT
As you know, Rob, I agree with your description of Johnson, but Fruitcake? I would like to see you stand in front of hundreds of people for an hour or so and speak coherently and intelligently without any notes! I’d bore you to tears, Stewart. 😉 I reckon the soon to be former Brexit Party leader could listen to his own voice much longer than an hour, though.
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Post by stewart on Nov 7, 2019 21:15:16 GMT
As you know, Rob, I agree with your description of Johnson, but Fruitcake? I would like to see you stand in front of hundreds of people for an hour or so and speak coherently and intelligently without any notes! I’d bore you to tears, Stewart. 😉 I reckon the soon to be former Brexit Party leader could listen to his own voice much longer than an hour, though. He will always be the leader of the Brexit Party as long as it exists. You don't have to be an MP to lead a party, Caroline Lucas is a good example of that.
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Post by Rob on Nov 7, 2019 22:37:13 GMT
I’d bore you to tears, Stewart. 😉 I reckon the soon to be former Brexit Party leader could listen to his own voice much longer than an hour, though. He will always be the leader of the Brexit Party as long as it exists. You don't have to be an MP to lead a party, Caroline Lucas is a good example of that. She is an MP, Stewart. Brighton Pavilion since 2010. And I agree, she is a very admirable politician. She has been Leader of the Party a couple of times, but their current leadership are not MP’s. One is a London Assembly member and the other a local councillor. Is that what you meant?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 23:14:55 GMT
Stewart
Quite right Stewart. Nor to be Prime Minister. In fact Sir Alec Douglas-Home who initially became PM and Tory leader while in the Lords, was Prime Minister for a couple of weeks in 1963 while he belonged to neither the House of Commons nor the House of Lords, before winning a by-election to take him into the Commons having rejected his peerage.
Rob possibly recalls Sir Alec more for his cricketing exploits:
Under his courtesy title of Lord Dunglass, the future Earl of Home played 10 first-class games in the mid-1920s. It was appropriate for a man who changed his name so regularly that the 10 games were played for six different teams: Middlesex, Free Foresters, HDG Leveson-Gower's XI, Oxford University, MCC and Harlequins. He batted and bowled a bit and had a reputation for doing both better on a wet wicket.
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Post by stewart on Nov 7, 2019 23:15:57 GMT
He will always be the leader of the Brexit Party as long as it exists. You don't have to be an MP to lead a party, Caroline Lucas is a good example of that. She is an MP, Stewart. Brighton Pavilion since 2010. And I agree, she is a very admirable politician. She has been Leader of the Party a couple of times, but their current leadership are not MP’s. One is a London Assembly member and the other a local councillor. Is that what you meant? Yes, exactly, and perhaps I should have better expressed my second sentence. I know that CL is the member for Brighton, and perhaps she is currently not the party leader because she spends much of her time in the Commons and thus does not have the time to carry out the many other duties incumbent on the leader. However, I didn't say that she was admirable and I don't believe that she is. What she is doing now is siding with another group who are hell bent on destroying a decision taken by the public in a democratic manner. This campaign is based on the possibility that people have changed their minds, but there is no evidence of that and what would be next? A General Election every year because voters might have changed their minds?
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Post by stewart on Nov 7, 2019 23:23:57 GMT
Stewart Quite right Stewart. Nor to be Prime Minister. In fact Sir Alec Douglas-Home who initially became PM and Tory leader while in the Lords, was Prime Minister for a couple of weeks in 1963 while he belonged to neither the House of Commons nor the House of Lords, before winning a by-election to take him into the Commons having rejected his peerage. Rob possibly recalls Sir Alec more for his cricketing exploits: Under his courtesy title of Lord Dunglass, the future Earl of Home played 10 first-class games in the mid-1920s. It was appropriate for a man who changed his name so regularly that the 10 games were played for six different teams: Middlesex, Free Foresters, HDG Leveson-Gower's XI, Oxford University, MCC and Harlequins. He batted and bowled a bit and had a reputation for doing both better on a wet wicket.Your knowledge of pre-war cricket is very impressive. Do you think that Douglas Jardine would have made a brilliant politician, or would he have been pilloried for the way in which he heaped all of the blame for "bodyline" on Harold Larwood?
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Post by Rob on Nov 7, 2019 23:51:56 GMT
A General Election every year because voters might have changed their minds? Well, we’re on our third in 4 years!! My apologies for misrepresenting your views on Caroline Lucas. I was aware that Alec Douglas-Home had been a good cricketer. Being better at batting in the wet breaks the mould and will certainly have been a great asset on occasion.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 10:32:29 GMT
Stewart I wouldn’t be confident in asserting that he’d be ‘brilliant’, Stewart, and certainly not in the modern era when powers of persuasion rather than asserting authority from a position you’ve been appointed to, is an ever increasing necessity. So while I think Jardine may well have struggled to get elected, even in his time, a less frontline role in politics, such as directing things behind the scenes in the way Dominic Cummings does, or Alistair Campbell did, might well have suited him. While Larwood was a willing accomplice in implementing the ‘bodyline’ tactics, subsequent blame shifting doesn’t look good. Just witness the current attempts to shift blame from the shoulders of Tom Watson, an architect of his own downfall if ever there was one, onto preferred scapegoats by those who yet again struggle to accept the result of a democratic election; in that case being the vote by Labour Party members to overwhelmingly elect Comrade Jezza as the Labour Party leader. The better news that Larwood spent a long and hopefully happy time living in Australia, although he did return to these shores to collect his MBE, indicates that not everyone agreed with Jardine’s version of events. Let’s hope our upcoming election is not ruined by the authoritarian forces of the Left. Thinking that in the run up to Christmas, so many Jewish families will already have their bags packed, in preparation for a quick exit from the country should a Corbyn regime come to power, sends a shiver of discomfort through most of us. The front pages of almost all of today’s newspapers makes chilling reading. And it’s not just in the bigger more obvious stories that Jezza’s ‘National Socialist’ sympathies are apparent. They are indicated in more subtle ways as well, as the letters pages of our newspapers reveal. Then when you add in other Left leaning politicians such as anti-democratic Fuhrer Swinson gaining control of her Party, and it’s little wonder that we seem to be living in an age where Referendum votes could well be overturned if they do not provide the ‘correct’ result. Whenever we witness the Authoritarian Left trying to dictate to us locally or nationally, we need to resist them in every way possible while there’s still time, as I’ve a feeling that otherwise it could soon be too late.
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Post by Rob on Nov 8, 2019 18:26:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 13:25:17 GMT
NIGEL FARAGE - TRUE PATRIOT Our Nige has put the best interests of the Country before all other considerations, by instructing his troops to stand down in the constituencies of 317 (highly respected) Tory MPs. This news is bound to be warmly received by ordinary voters up and down the UK, many of whom were growing increasingly concerned as to the fate that might await us if extremist dark forces gained control on December 12th. The big bonus locally is that Thursday night at the Langstone Cliff should now be an even more jolly event than it otherwise would have been. And a chance to buy jovial Nige a pint while regaling him with the tale of how we've also successfully prevented a Left Wing power grab just a few miles down the coast. So let's hope for a good turn out of TFF members on Thursday evening for this Brexit Party bonanza with Nigel Farage. Don't forget, 7pm, Langstone Cliff Hotel, Dawlish Warren.
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Post by Rob on Nov 11, 2019 17:01:40 GMT
Presumably he’ll be cancelling his appearance now that he has binned off loads of his candidates. He’d lost Arron Banks so the game was up for Fartage if he wanted to get back onto Banks’s payroll gravy train. Banks appears happy tonight. Job done.
Most will have noted - as he himself has accepted - that he only started spouting No Deal/WTO/Clean Break years after the Referendum and never before it. Whilst he sucked a fair few in, some of whom claimed it was what they had wanted all along, ditching it will mean absolutely nothing to the man.
Sure, he’ll make some noise when the transition date passes on May’s reheated deal and the Super Canada Norway ++ etc that the liar has told him he’ll get done doesn’t transpire. He loves the publicity, after all.
Ann Widdecombe at the Hotel jolly instead whilst Farridge stays at home prior to the ‘knighthood in the post’ as befits his Establishment status?
At least Trump will be happy they danced to his tune. Putin has declined to comment but is said to be contemplating a celebratory bareback horse ride.
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