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Post by Rob on Dec 7, 2019 13:01:20 GMT
It would appear he is. Too busy sharing jokes with Trudeau about the idiot Trump. Why shouldn't Johnson shun Andrew Neil? I read up on him Of course he can choose not to. It is more a question on the scrutiny point, Flo. It is felt by some over here that Johnson does not hold up well to 1 to 1 scrutiny. Particularly on the issue of trust given his track record in that respect. In that video is a snapshot of the type of questions he would be asked. Neil’s interviews are quite savage and all the other leaders put themselves through that. His choice not to do it is fairly understandable while leading in polls. As Neil himself says in that video, it’s not as if he can get a Supreme Court ruling to put him through that if he chooses not to. Leader interviews in this format are kind of a staple for a General Election as Neil says and I certainly can’t recall a sitting PM ever ducking one out. Johnson even did one for the Conservative contest. Johnson is probably well advised in this respect by Cummings, as AJ suggests. I find it quite unimpressive and typical and am reminded of him proroguing and ducking PM questions already in his short tenure. My bias is that liars such as Johnson will inevitably come unstuck when challenged one on one. Marr tried his hardest to be hard hitting, but Neil is the one who has grilled the Leaders best to date in this campaign. Neil and Johnson know each other well from Spectator days working together. He is bottling out. That much is clear. Probably done a calculation re the damage of bottling out v doing it and come to a sensible vote gaining/losing conclusion.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 10:15:48 GMT
Boris knows that talking to Neil will be a total waste of time. Neil won't want to know about the future plans Boris has for this country, he'll just ask stupid questions like why Boris is sha88ing this woman and not that woman, why he said this about Burkha's in the past, why he... Sometimes it's good 'Not' to talk. Thirty odd years ago my co-accused decided to do just that...Talk. He took the stand and got 25 years for his troubles! I remained stum, and was acquitted! Maybe I should run for PM?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 14:04:45 GMT
The excitement mounts. But if this rain doesn't ease off considerably then there'll be plenty who won't want to venture out for a wander to the Polling Station. Use a postal vote instead ? Well it's too late for that unless you've already shoved it in the letterbox It's probably no exaggeration that the future of Brexit hangs on the outcome. I've got a choice of 4 candidates, the election literature delivered to Alpine Towers by both Tory and Labour, is noticeably devoid of the word 'Brexit'. The subject of our EU membership doesn't get the slightest mention. My sitting Tory MP is an avid Remainer, so much so that it won him a place within 'Team Hammond's' Treasury grouping. However, he had more than double the number of votes than his nearest rival (Labour) could amass back in 2017. There have been two other leaflets for me two peruse, from the LibDems and The Greens, both brazenly declaring 'Sod Democracy, bin Brexit'.Do I have any inclination to chose between any of these 4 to represent me ? Do I have the choice of even one person with opinions even roughly corresponding to my own, who I'd be willing to endorse ? Do I feel that my dissatisfaction with our Parliament, and the lack of choice of views put before me, can best be expressed by demonstrating a refusal to take part ? The message that I hope is conveyed most strongly at this election, is that you can't just trash democracy, and expect the public to be like mugs and still go along with the game. Turn it into a farce, as it certainly has been over the last 3 years, and they'll wash their hands of it, and stay in front of their TVs instead. Repair democracy first. Bring it back to a state where it is again worthy of respect, and the public will return and engage in higher numbers. The Brexit betrayal has prompted many to take a look under the thin veneer of 'democracy', and they've been appalled at what they've seen and witnessed. Legitimise and sustain the current abomination by taking part in it, and it will be used as evidence that you're satisfied with how things are and that no cleaning house is required. Think twice before deciding if you want to endorse this charade. The Establishment are happy with this system. It almost always gives them what they want. And on the odd occasion when it doesn't, then it gives them further options to prevent it. It wasn't just Ozzie who pointed this out decades ago. The evidence builds up, and remains just as true today. "We have no real democracy at the present time, because again and again since the war, the country has voted for great changes and for decisive action, yet again and again their will has been thwarted by obstruction in the talking shop at Westminster. True democracy only begins when the will of the people is carried out" - OM
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 15:02:41 GMT
The excitement mounts. But if this rain doesn't ease off considerably then there'll be plenty who won't want to venture out for a wander to the Polling Station. Use a postal vote instead ? Well it's too late for that unless you've already shoved it in the letterbox It's probably no exaggeration that the future of Brexit hangs on the outcome. I've got a choice of 4 candidates, the election literature delivered to Alpine Towers by both Tory and Labour, is noticeably devoid of the word 'Brexit'. The subject of our EU membership doesn't get the slightest mention. My sitting Tory MP is an avid Remainer, so much so that it won him a place within 'Team Hammond's' Treasury grouping. However, he had more than double the number of votes than his nearest rival (Labour) could amass back in 2017. There have been two other leaflets for me two peruse, from the LibDems and The Greens, both brazenly declaring 'Sod Democracy, bin Brexit'.Do I have any inclination to chose between any of these 4 to represent me ? Do I have the choice of even one person with opinions even roughly corresponding to my own, who I'd be willing to endorse ? Do I feel that my dissatisfaction with our Parliament, and the lack of choice of views put before me, can best be expressed by demonstrating a refusal to take part ? The message that I hope is conveyed most strongly at this election, is that you can't just trash democracy, and expect the public to be like mugs and still go along with the game. Turn it into a farce, as it certainly has been over the last 3 years, and they'll wash their hands of it, and stay in front of their TVs instead. Repair democracy first. Bring it back to a state where it is again worthy of respect, and the public will return and engage in higher numbers. The Brexit betrayal has prompted many to take a look under the thin veneer of 'democracy', and they've been appalled at what they've seen and witnessed. Legitimise and sustain the current abomination by taking part in it, and it will be used as evidence that you're satisfied with how things are and that no cleaning house is required. Think twice before deciding if you want to endorse this charade. The Establishment are happy with this system. It almost always gives them what they want. And on the odd occasion when it doesn't, then it gives them further options to prevent it. It wasn't just Ozzie who pointed this out decades ago. The evidence builds up, and remains just as true today. "We have no real democracy at the present time, because again and again since the war, the country has voted for great changes and for decisive action, yet again and again their will has been thwarted by obstruction in the talking shop at Westminster. True democracy only begins when the will of the people is carried out" - OM I love that man, let's dig him up, because he can't be any worse than the shower some of you are voting for shortly. He's probably less decomposed than Corbett, and Corbett is still bloody alive! Oh, and somebody is not going to be happy with that emoji.
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Post by Rob on Dec 10, 2019 19:26:01 GMT
Fascinating archive footage AJ and noticeable that Johnson it’s intentionally to use similar words today.
Unfortunately for you both, (Register alone most likely) I don’t believe the British Union of Fascists which Moseley later went on to head up are fielding any candidates on Thursday.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 10:03:03 GMT
Fascinating archive footage AJ and noticeable that Johnson it’s intentionally to use similar words today. Unfortunately for you both, (Register alone most likely) I don’t believe the British Union of Fascists which Moseley later went on to head up are fielding any candidates on Thursday. Moseley spoke more sense in that two minute clip than any British Politician has spoken in the last fifty years! The reason you dislike Moseley so much, is not because he was a Fascist...it's because you're a follower. 'Oh dear...what's every body else doing today...ah, that'll do me, I'll join this queue. I don't give a shit if someone thinks I'm a Fascist...because I'm not a follower. The latest thing that people are following is Gretna*, and what is she saying now...stop bloody following me and get a life! * I call her Gretna because she's Green (I can go into greater detail if you want Rob) and when she get's older, she'll blame everyone on the planet for spoiling her childhood...when in reality, there was only one person that destroyed her childhood...herself!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 10:59:00 GMT
Good plain common sense, Reg. Gretna is living the life of Riley, and should count her abundance of blessings. It would have done her the world of good had she been given the chance to acquaint herself with the Capitalist system, and get down to some good honest hard work, as numerous other youngsters around the globe do. We can do our part by voting 'Boris' tomorrow (provided it's not raining), to ensure Corbett doesn't deny us from providing good honest toil to so many of the world's youth, who help produce the consumer goods from around the world that Lady Alpine so enjoys buying online and elsewhere. Instead of swanning around to conferences here, there, and everywhere, Gretna would benefit from getting her hands dirty for a change.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 14:00:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 12:46:53 GMT
It's Decision Time Well for anyone still to make up their mind, and who intends to vote, they need to weigh things up fairly quickly and also find an umbrella. Tempting as it is to take the same view as Alice, to let the youth of Britain have their romantic notions of Socialism dashed by experiencing the harsh reality of living under such an Administration, in the final analysis we need to be more sensible. Prime Minister Corbyn propped up by Wee Jimmy Krankie most probably would be highly amusing for the first 3 or 4 months. But even the kids would stop laughing and waving their Red flags when contemplating what would be left of the country if it went on for another 3 or 4 years as planned. So difficult as it is to resist thinking that a harsh Socialist lesson might actually bring a good number of people to their senses; more considered thought is needed. That’s why, as the country takes note this morning that Diane is incapable of putting matching shoes on her feet before leaving the house*, we also need to reflect whether our Security Services would be competently led with Home Secretary Abbott directing things ... at the same time that dear old Jezza is turning a section of Downing Street into an allotment. If you do feel you must vote, then it really is best to vote sensibly. * Update Corbyn Backs Abbott
'I have full confidence in Diane Abbott. Furthermore she will be a shoe-in for the Home Secretary job once the announcement that I am to be Britain's next Prime Minister is made in the early hours of tomorrow morning' - JC4PM
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 15:37:14 GMT
Footage has appeared of Merse and Rob walking back from the Polling Station. They look a bit disconsolate and their arses are hanging out, and are seen to be carrying swag bags. Their dejection comes from the fact that they were caught by security loading their swag bags with ballot papers and muttering, 'if we can't beat them we'll nick them.' They were told to go home and stop monkeying around.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 23:28:23 GMT
I'm happy, hope you're happy too
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Post by stewart on Dec 13, 2019 1:58:19 GMT
Johnson's lies and unsubstantive bluster appear to be paying off then. If he couldn't care less about the child lying on a hospital floor, or the young man who lost his life near London Bridge, what does that say about everyone who has voted conservative?
Johnson is the second Margaret Thatcher in male form, and anyone who trusts him to do anything but promote his own personal interests will be in for a severe shock in the months to come. I voted leave all that time ago, but I didn't expect this self-centred buffoon to be in charge of the cause.
Sometimes I wish that I had the ability to express myself in the same subtle and ironic language as Alpine Joe, but his mastery of that is something which I cannot attempt. All I can say is that I am very angry tonight that our country will now be in the hands of such a hateful, pompous and disgusting individual.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 10:01:56 GMT
Johnson's lies and unsubstantive bluster appear to be paying off then. If he couldn't care less about the child lying on a hospital floor, or the young man who lost his life near London Bridge, what does that say about everyone who has voted conservative? Johnson is the second Margaret Thatcher in male form, and anyone who trusts him to do anything but promote his own personal interests will be in for a severe shock in the months to come. I voted leave all that time ago, but I didn't expect this self-centred buffoon to be in charge of the cause. Sometimes I wish that I had the ability to express myself in the same subtle and ironic language as Alpine Joe, but his mastery of that is something which I cannot attempt. All I can say is that I am very angry tonight that our country will now be in the hands of such a hateful, pompous and disgusting individual. And your alternative choice of leader would have been...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 10:42:11 GMT
In every competition there must be a winner and a loser. I can categorically say though, that I, and all my fellow Brexiteers, extend a warm hand of friendship to the losers. So much so, that I have a bottle of Smelling Salts (initially bought because Mrs Register kept fainting when she saw the size of the Big Fella) which I will give freely to Merse. Although, he would probably wish to remain unconscious when he realises he has wasted an entire life supporting a shower of shite, who in all likelihood, will not be in power again in his lifetime!
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Post by plainmoorpete on Dec 13, 2019 11:08:21 GMT
I see the Labour losers are turning on him in unadulterated terms. All I can think is that the MP's ousted tonight should reflect on the way they obstructed Brexit, and wasted billions of pounds in the process. I don't think all the blame for delaying Brexit can rest with Labour MPs. Firstly it was the ERG within the Tory ranks that frustrated Theresa May in getting a deal done. But undoubtedly I think the Labour MPs in leave seats probably regret not having the courage to defy their whip and backing May's deal (which is not very different to Johnson's), that would have got May's deal over the line and they will still have jobs. But I think the main reason the magnitude of the Labour defeat is the very simple fact that the Labour party has moved away from its core supporter base who no longer identify with it, and since the Labour party is now controlled by Momentum there is no chance it will move back toward the centre any time soon if at all.
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