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Post by stewart on Jan 29, 2021 10:06:10 GMT
And yet again The Three Deviants will not discuss that clip! Rob ranting on about playpens, and Quasi just ranting! Will you, or will you not discuss what your fellow Deviant is doing in that clip? Here you are, then. What do you expect us to say? How about this? It is a vindictive piece of filth which has so obviously been edited in an attempt produce the effect which you have eagerly lapped up. The producers of it would make a far bigger profit by cobbling together his predecessor's lies and gaffes (ingesting bleach, we have turned the corner, etc.). Jeez, why do I keep allowing myself to be drawn in by your outrageous nonsense? That's it, I'm not remotely interested any more, I'll get back to the football from now on. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2021 10:13:41 GMT
And yet again The Three Deviants will not discuss that clip! Rob ranting on about playpens, and Quasi just ranting! Will you, or will you not discuss what your fellow Deviant is doing in that clip? Here you are, then. What do you expect us to say? How about this? It is a vindictive piece of filth which has so obviously been edited in an attempt produce the effect which you have eagerly lapped up. The producers of it would make a far bigger profit by cobbling together his predecessor's lies and gaffes (ingesting bleach, we have turned the corner, etc.). Jeez, why do I keep allowing myself to be drawn in by your outrageous nonsense? That's it, I'm not remotely interested any more, I'll get back to the football from now on. “I rest my case m’lud.” 👮♂️ |
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Post by stefano on Jan 29, 2021 11:01:11 GMT
This site prides itself on historical accuracy reg, so it needs to be pointed out that your rolling eyes towards AJ (don't worry many have done that after reading an AJ post 😉) was actually after FG's 2nd post and not after his 1st as you stated.
It may be relevant to mention as well that your eyes rolled after he had challenged you over a rather quaint view you put forward in respect of Brexit, so a good defence lawyer may well argue that he sussed you out immediately as well.
Discuss in no more than 150 words....😉
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Post by flyinggull on Jan 29, 2021 12:44:30 GMT
Here you are, then. What do you expect us to say? How about this? It is a vindictive piece of filth which has so obviously been edited in an attempt produce the effect which you have eagerly lapped up. The producers of it would make a far bigger profit by cobbling together his predecessor's lies and gaffes (ingesting bleach, we have turned the corner, etc.). Jeez, why do I keep allowing myself to be drawn in by your outrageous nonsense? That's it, I'm not remotely interested any more, I'll get back to the football from now on. “I rest my case m’lud.” 👮♂️ I have to ask why do you want to keep going on about a clip that makes feel so uncomfortable? Why not apply your brexiteers mentality and just ignore it? |
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Post by Rob on Jan 29, 2021 18:45:16 GMT
New playpen, I see.
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Post by flyinggull on Jan 29, 2021 19:17:56 GMT
I dont any play pen would allow him given his earlier comments |
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Post by swatcat on Jan 30, 2021 1:48:44 GMT
Some interesting points in 'More or less' on BBC R4, always a good listen IMO www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000rln5 Daily UK deaths - 1st wave figures have been generally understated when comparing with 2nd wave figures - there's far more testing going on now, so more are 'within 28 days of a test' criteria. Daily figures is not for deaths that day but deaths 'reported' on that day. The 1st wave peak of 1073 was on 8.4.20 but when you spread figures to day of death, that day was actually 1456 - so the peak of deaths was in the 1st wave. The 2nd wave peak of 1820 (reported) on 20.1.21 was actually 1028 on the day - this may creep up a little as the analysis continues. So the 2nd wave peak is 1028+ compared to the 1st wave peak of 1456 . . . These figures are prominent daily in the minds of media and populace - the Govt. machine should have made MUCH more effort to explain and present these crucial figures in a meaningful way. |
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Post by rjdgull on Jan 30, 2021 9:15:21 GMT
A seven day rolling average for both cases and deaths is a much better way of understanding where we are and smooths out those daily extortions. The good news is that lockdown is having a good effect with new cases down almost 30% on a 7 day rolling average and “like magic” a corresponding reduction in hospital admissions with vaccinations likely just starting to have an impact. Sadly deaths is a lagging indicator but even the seven day average has just started to come down by a few percentage points over the last few days.
The question is where does this leave us with lockdown? Government review on 15 Feb to be announced on 22 Feb with schools maybe back on 8th March which looks doable, maybe primary first and secondary a week or two later? The primary schools I know of are already half full! Reported locally there was an outbreak at Warberry with 15 staff members contracting this and no surprises that Wellswood has the highest infection rate in Devon although Torbay is generally still on a downward trend.
For us, if we want to watch live football, it doesn’t matter if we are in either tier 1 or 2 as the capacity is the same. I have mentioned previously I could see this happening in April and May but there is an outside possibility of this occurring in late March. You do wonder if you could have sections of the ground more tightly packed with vaccinated “old codgers” although those booster injections will only start coming in March and April.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 9:38:37 GMT
This site prides itself on historical accuracy reg, so it needs to be pointed out that your rolling eyes towards AJ (don't worry many have done that after reading an AJ post 😉) was actually after FG's 2nd post and not after his 1st as you stated. It may be relevant to mention as well that your eyes rolled after he had challenged you over a rather quaint view you put forward in respect of Brexit, so a good defence lawyer may well argue that he sussed you out immediately as well. Discuss in no more than 150 words....😉 I do apologise Setefano for missing this rather good post. I think I can be forgiven though, because it’s surrounded by such silly posts from other posters less intelligent than ourselves. 🙂 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 9:46:43 GMT
Sadly, you don’t see Rob. One can understand why Quasimodo doesn’t get it because quite clearly he’s a moron! I expected better from you...you must try harder. |
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Post by flyinggull on Jan 30, 2021 15:26:05 GMT
Sadly, you don’t see Rob. One can understand why Quasimodo doesn’t get it because quite clearly he’s a moron! I expected better from you...you must try harder. Are you ever going to answer the question? What is your point? Or are you just going to ask if im touching myself again? |
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Post by Rob on Jan 30, 2021 17:50:01 GMT
Sadly, you don’t see Rob. One can understand why Quasimodo doesn’t get it because quite clearly he’s a moron! I expected better from you...you must try harder. Will do. Noted. Here’s hoping one of the fifteen days of miracles provides inspiration for you not spouting nonsense on here, Reg. |
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Post by plainmoorpete on Feb 3, 2021 13:18:30 GMT
Don't know if this is the right thread but I'm wondering if Torquay should even be going to Southport on Saturday given it is one the areas the government has identified as having the South African variant, on top of that a week later we go to Woking which I believe is also on the government watch list.
Surely I would have thought all non essential travel in and out of these areas would be banned, and to be honest a football match is not that essential.
Also does anyone know if it is true that Torquay United don't test our players for covid?
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Post by swatcat on Feb 9, 2021 4:23:15 GMT
A seven day rolling average for both cases and deaths is a much better way of understanding where we are and smooths out those daily distortions. Hello RJD. Sorry for the late reply - the laptop gave up and on the new one the VPN was preventing my access due to an upgrade to Windows 10 ! So I turned it off.
Replying to yours about the 'distortions'. The presenting of statistics is very careless even now and it cause a lot of worry with the 'ups' and false relief with the 'downs'. A 7 day moving average is an improvement but imo, the only correct way to do this is to backspread the deaths to the days of occurence and then do a 7 day average.
With billions being thrown around on this, investing say GBP 40 daily to give us the right figures would have been a good investment - I'd have done it for GBP25  |
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Post by swatcat on Feb 9, 2021 4:24:21 GMT
In respect of border controls, 'better late than never' of course, but surely, because this action comes so late, it'd be better to have immediate and stronger measures rather than delayed and weaker measures? " Up to 205,000 passengers from countries with confirmed new variant cases are expected to enter the UK before hotel quarantine is enforced, The Telegraph can disclose. Passenger data show that 22,000 Britons will enter from the 33 “red list” countries from which foreign travel is banned in the three weeks between Priti Patel, the Home Secretary, announcing the policy and the first hotels opening on Feb 15. A further 183,600 passengers will have entered the UK from 27 other countries where Brazilian or south African variant cases have been confirmed, including Spain which has imposed border restrictions with Portugal because of its close links with Brazil." What happened to the earlier Govt. proposition at the height of the 1st wave, that the UK had so much virus activity that a bit more was irrelevant ? 30 flights arriving daily from the stricken USA alone, throughout, with no health controls on entry and for months, no masks on public transport  * * * * * And . . . . " It is understood the airlines have recommended a fast track channel at airports for those heading for quarantine hotels to enable passengers to be identified and avoid mingling while going through border controls. The Government is expected to foot the £55 million initial bill for the hotel accommodation before recouping the money from passengers. It is not clear how far officials will go in pursuing non-payers through the courts." IF the Govt. haven't got secure exit and transit from LHR for quarantined PAX arranged already then heads should roll. Similarly, PAX for quarantine must pay a deposit preferably before departure but otherwise on arrival at LHR. If this DT report of these 2 aspects is true, the words 'p*ss up, organise and brewery' come to mind www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/02/07/205000-passengers-countries-new-variant-could-arrive-uk-hotel/ |
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