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Post by flyinggull on Feb 17, 2021 19:29:55 GMT
And you still don’t get it. So to keep fartinggull happy (he hasn’t been around for a while...he must have gone off on a Campanology course somewhere) I’m now going to let him know ‘my point.’ You have chosen to have the jab, whilst I have not. Anything? You have come on the site deriding my choice and myself. Anything? I in turn have said nothing...Drama Queen was not for your choice but for your words. Anything? You, fartinggull and others will have no idea what I’m on about. Anything? And there it is.... your point (small points are your style) To try and be the center if attention by bleeting on about something in the attempt to feel your important. What do people that dont want to have jab and vegans have in common? They insist on trying to tell you about their choices. If you really didnt want the jab (and by the way your write you have already had it) then you wouldnt have it. You wouldnt't go on and on and on about it to try and get a rise out of people. You simply wouldnt get it but i suspect you protest to much. Its a bit like if brexit was such a success then why are no MPs fighting to take responsibility for it? *guff* just for you |
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Post by stewart on Feb 17, 2021 23:27:47 GMT
And there it is.... your point (small points are your style) To try and be the center if attention by bleeting on about something in the attempt to feel your important. What do people that don't want to have jab and vegans have in common? They insist on trying to tell you about their choices. If you really didn't want the jab (and by the way your write you have already had it) then you wouldn't have it. You wouldn't go on and on and on about it to try and get a rise out of people. You simply wouldn't get it but i suspect you protest to much. Its a bit like if brexit was such a success then why are no MPs fighting to take responsibility for it? *guff* just for you For goodness sake, don't keep engaging with him, just scroll past. He has his own strange views on life, death and human behaviour. He doesn't mind if he refuses the jab and then dies as a result. He is unconcerned if he infects others who later die, as long as he able to make his own choices as his given right. What more is there to say? Don't keep engaging with him, as he is only ever trying to elicit a reaction. Just scroll past. |
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Post by Jon on Feb 18, 2021 0:04:00 GMT
There has been a lot of great stuff on here recently. Timbo’s brilliant programme scans, lots of interesting discussion on Torquay United. Unfortunately, there is a poor signal to noise ratio with incessant nonsense from one or two people. Scroll on by is good advice but it is still tiresome. If you login in and click on a particularly irritating member, you will see a little wheel. Click on that and you can block member. What this means is that when you log in and click recent posts, the incessant bullshit magically disappears. The forum goes from a place filled with idiotic nonsense back to what it should be - a place to have a sensible conversation with people who share a common interest and inhabit the same planet without some nutter constantly butting in. Try it. The world becomes a far better place at the click of a button. |
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Post by chelstongull on Feb 18, 2021 8:35:45 GMT
We’ve had the jab 😀 - can’t wait for the second one 😁😁
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Post by Rob on Feb 19, 2021 16:20:33 GMT
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Post by stefano on Feb 19, 2021 17:21:13 GMT
I agree with Littlejohn (mind you I often do not being a socialist! 😉) but I am glad I didn't get his experience post-jab! I had the same one AstraZeneca with no reaction whatsoever not even any stiffness at point of entry. As Littlejohn says this debate really is a no brainer. People who say it infringes their human rights are people who have car insurance, stop at red traffic lights, have tv licences, and do not kill somebody they do not like. Most laws and regulations technically infringe somebodys right to do exactly as they please but for the greater good. The covid vaccination is exactly that and having it is a matter of social responsibility. Saying that the objection is because a person should be able to choose what to do with their own body doesn't hold water when one observes the protestor covered in tattoos and smoking! Sorry I am starting to sound like Littlejohn now! 😂. Of course an individual would not choose to put his body into a prison cell or a mental health treatment ward, but sometimes there are situations where an action is required not only for the good of wider society but also for the good of that individual! 😉 |
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Post by rjdgull on Feb 19, 2021 17:26:13 GMT
With a little bit of luck, Johnson will have had his first jab by now; our injuries have been bad enough without the manager being out of action. Look what happened with Ling.....
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Post by swatcat on Feb 25, 2021 1:56:02 GMT
From a Friend, 'Gooosed' - "We also know that beta coronaviruses that cause SARS and MERS are associated with case fatality rates of 10-35% (25-88 times worse than COVID-19) and that coronaviruses circulate widely in animal reservoirs. The emergence of a coronavirus variant combining the transmissibility of COVID-19 with the lethality of SARS or MERS would be utterly devastating.'" Https://cepi.net/news_cepi/preparing-for-the-next-disease-x/?swcfpc=1"What next for Disease X? We don’t know where or when the next Disease X will emerge, only that it will. As COVID-19 has demonstrated, diseases do not respect borders so we need to be prepared on a global scale to respond to future outbreaks of Disease X, and we need to do it fast. In many ways COVID-19 is a proof of concept for rapidly developing a vaccine against a new viral threat. Scientists were already working on vaccines against MERS and SARS—pathogens from the same virus family as COVID-19—which gave us a crucial head start this time around." |
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Post by swatcat on Feb 25, 2021 1:59:04 GMT
"While it is still uncertain whether the vaccines will need to be changed, Gilbert said the necessary work had begun and a decision would need to be taken in the summer. “We need to make preparations so that everything is in place, if it turns out that we do need to do it,” Gilbert told the Commons science and technology committee. “Currently, the plans are to be ready for an immunisation campaign in the autumn, so before going into the winter season we would have a new variant vaccine available if it turns out that is what’s going to be required. “If we see the emergence of a new strain very close to that date, it is going to be difficult to go through this whole process, because we do need to conduct a clinical study and get regulatory approval, in time to be vaccinated before the winter,” she added. “I think we need to make a decision over the summer. We will start to get data from the clinical trials on the immune responses to the variant vaccine, both against the virus variant and against the original virus, and we will then be able to monitor the situation and decide what should be happening in the autumn.” Gilbert said her team was planning for clinical trials to take place from the early summer with batches of the new variants of the vaccine. “We have been discussing with regulators the approach that we will need to take for a strain change, and this is going to be quite similar to the approach taken for a strain change in flu. It’s not expected to require any further efficacy trials, any phase 3 trials, it will be a trial in hundreds of people rather than hundreds of thousands.” Further trials are under way to assess whether mixing vaccines provides better protection by stimulating the immune system in different ways. Other options under development are vaccines based on nasal sprays and pills, Gilbert added." Https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/24/vaccine-clinical-trials-for-covid-variants-to-start-in-summer-mps-told |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 8:28:10 GMT
Sorry Setefano, but after your comments yesterday it’s clear that you have been taken over by the Triffids...oops sorry, I meant the TFF! So I feel I can now venture back over here after that.
I took a drive down to City 17 yesterday and had my jab!
Had a little chin wag with the Doctor guy before the jab and was amazed at the information he had.
I asked him one question and he said: ‘we believe that will happen next year!’
So I asked him another question to which he replied: ‘we hope that will happen this year!’
Answers to which I thought: ‘I believe I wouldn’t be here if I’d known that...and hopefully I’ll survive this!’
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Post by stefano on Feb 25, 2021 9:18:42 GMT
Interesting stuff there swatcat though although it is clear we will have to learn to live with covid we have to make sure that we do not move to living in fear. Certainly covid is dangerous but it is nothing like the Spanish flu of 100 years ago for mortality rate. Covid would need 215 million deaths worldwide over a 2 year period to be equivalent so at around 3 million in over a year it is not going to make it. It may be that the unknown virus x would not come up to Spanish flu standards or anywhere near it either.
On a positive note swatcat my first jab seems to be working and am looking forward to the 2nd in early May and a further booster in November. It is just so nice to get out and see people!
As interesting as your coronavirus updates are swatcat it is now Thursday so I will have to divert my excitement now from the viral world and turn it to our big quarter final match as we march towards Wembley! 😉⚽️💉😷
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Post by swatcat on Feb 25, 2021 9:34:01 GMT
Hi Stefano. I see you've been dosed and well done - the second in 12 weeks time. Was that Pfizer or Astra Zeneca ? Did they give you any details of the 'booster' in November ? 1st time I've heard of that as they don't yet know how long the 2 dose immunity will last.
Re. 'Disease X' I posted, "We also know that beta coronaviruses that cause SARS and MERS are associated with case fatality rates of 10-35% (25-88 times worse than COVID-19)". That's quite bad enough so a 'Universal vaccine' please !
Sorry M8 I know this is a football board - Come on you Gulls ! ATB
Hi Reg - you have had your jab ? Fantastic M8 ! I'm stuck in Thailand and the only vaccine around atm is Sinovac - from China. Yuk.
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Post by stefano on Feb 25, 2021 9:45:08 GMT
I had AstraZeneca swatcat the downside being that I had to enter Home Park to have it! 🤣 The second booster jab is 11 May also at Home Park. No there is nothing scheduled for November it is just that all the scientific and medical news reports are that we will all probably require a further booster jab in the autumn, and November is when the annual flu vaccine starts to roll out.
The pandemic was really inevitable given that we had 5 lucky escapes since 2000 but the 6th one got us - SARS, MERS, Avian flu, Swine flu, Ebola all caused deaths but did not spread worldwide - Covid came along and used the planes!
I was rather hoping swatcat that there would be another 100 years gap before virus x! 😉😷
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 10:52:00 GMT
Hi Stefano. I see you've been dosed and well done - the second in 12 weeks time. Was that Pfizer or Astra Zeneca ? Did they give you any details of the 'booster' in November ? 1st time I've heard of that as they don't yet know how long the 2 dose immunity will last. Re. 'Disease X' I posted, "We also know that beta coronaviruses that cause SARS and MERS are associated with case fatality rates of 10-35% (25-88 times worse than COVID-19)". That's quite bad enough so a 'Universal vaccine' please ! Sorry M8 I know this is a football board - Come on you Gulls ! ATB Hi Reg - you have had your jab ? Fantastic M8 ! I'm stuck in Thailand and the only vaccine around atm is Sinovac - from China. Yuk. You lucky bugger Swatty...stuck in Thailand. 😉 So Setefano has been dosed in Home Park, and you’ve been dosed in Thailand. Technically speaking though, I have also been dosed in Thailand...I got a dose of the Clap there once! 🤨 |
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Post by swatcat on Mar 2, 2021 3:36:25 GMT
Stefano and all - this is relevant to the next Covid virus and hopes for a 'Universal vaccine' . . . Scancell's Covidity project comes to the attention of CEPI - only one other 2nd Gen project mentioned :- "To date, CEPI has secured financial support from Australia, Austria, Belgium, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Canada, Denmark, the European Commission, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Kuwait, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Panama, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Singapore, Switzerland, United Kingdom, USAID, Ethiopia, The Republic of Korea, Indonesia, and Wellcome. Additionally, CEPI has also received support from private sector entities as well as public contributions through the UN Foundation COVID-19 Solidarity Response Fund." " . . . . scientists at the University of Nottingham in the UK are working alongside pharmaceutical company Scancell and Nottingham Trent University to test its COVID-19 vaccine candidate, SN14, which targets both the spike protein as well as the nucleocapsid, or N-protein. By targeting this additional viral structure, which is far less likely to mutate, the vaccine if found safe and effective could work to protect people against COVID-19 irrespective of any mutations to the spike protein and, in theory, could work across other coronaviruses." cepi.net/news_cepi/going-universal-the-search-for-an-all-in-one-coronavirus-vaccine/Another good read here : www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00340-4 |
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