Jon
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Post by Jon on Aug 11, 2021 23:52:01 GMT
Some discussion on the Chippenham thread. TUFC changed from 1-11 to squad numbers for the 1999/2000 season. Excellent site with all the old squad numbers (other than the NLS season) here which is pretty accurate: www.footballsquads.co.uk/archive.htmNo numbers on shirts up until 1939, but grids in the Official Centenary are how they would have been. Up until the end of the Webber era, you could easily recognise the 1-11 positions, although Stewart has given us much insight into the varying roles of wing-halves and inside-forwards in particular in the 50s and early 60s. Frank O'Farrell started experimenting more with formations and sometimes lost the link between shirt number and position, although numbers were usually some kind of guide up until 1999. I have been updating appearance grids since 1999 recently and forcing numbers into imaginary 1-11s, trying to give some idea of positions played. Rothmans (or whatever it is now) tries to do this but does it extremely badly!
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Post by stewart on Aug 16, 2021 19:43:44 GMT
Yes, I noticed that from the season 2014/15, Rothmans (Sky Sports) in their annual began using a numbering system reflective of 4-4-2 instead of the traditional 2-3-5, so that the left back became number 5 and the two strikers numbers 10 and 11. Had that publication remained in existence, I believe that they would have been met with all kinds of problems, given that so many teams now change their shape almost on a match to match basis.
The overriding problem with squad numbers is that many newspapers and archives on websites simply provide a list of players in that number order, so that it becomes a matter of guesswork who has played where. Don't like them for that and other reasons and never will.
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Post by hector on Aug 18, 2021 13:01:19 GMT
I think Frank O’Farrell possibly had a bit of a disregard for numbers as I do remember him playing a striker (David Butler?) at no.3 and also Cyril Knowles played a central defender in Phil Lloyd at no.8.
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Post by Rags on Aug 25, 2021 9:56:13 GMT
Without having watched it, I read that the Burnley team that played Liverpool last Saturday lined up with squad numbers 1 to 11 for the kick-off. Defenders were 2, 3, 5 and 6 Midfield were 4, 7, 8 and 11 Forwards were 9 and 10
Subs 19 and 23 rather spoiled the fun. Jay Rodriguez at 19 was the lowest numbered substitute (excluding sub 'keeper Wayne Hennessey at number 13).
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