hector
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Post by hector on Oct 24, 2022 19:22:48 GMT
Seeing Rags’s confirmation on the Pat Kruse thread that the own goal was at the Mini Stand end, then that must have meant that Torquay were attacking the Babbacombe End in the first half, back then as they do now and have always done as far back as I remember.
It happens so rarely that we attack the Ellacombe End in the first half that the majority of fans who migrate between ends during the game automatically go towards the Babbacombe End on arrival at the game but has this always been the case?
If I was the away manager, I’d potentially want to negate that “advantage” by making Torquay kick the other way in the second half but it very rarely seems to happen. Are Torquay just lucky winning the toss and choosing ends or do the other teams just want to kick towards their own fans, even if (as so often is the case at this level) there aren’t even any behind the goal?
I suspect there was a time when there was no segregation and fans were scattered all over the ground (I remember frequently walking around the entire ground when I first started watching in the 79/80 season, perhaps one of the last before segregation) so there would not have been any advantage necessarily of kicking towards home fans only. Has the Ellacombe End always been the end of choice to attack for the second half?
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Post by stefano on Oct 24, 2022 20:24:12 GMT
Certainly in my memory hector which is from the start of the 1963/64 season Torquay generally attacked the Babbacombe End first and then the Ellacombe end (Cowshed End / Mini Stand End / Family Stand End) in the 2nd half.
It was most unusual for it to be the other way round. I do of course remember several games when it was the other way, but it just never seemed right!
No away end of course for many years after I started watching. I wasn't generally a mover myself once I had selected my position I stayed put. The early games were on the Popular Side, leaning on the fence which was allowed then, then the Babbacombe End, then back to the Pop but further back, then the Cowshed and the replacement mini Stand, then later I loved the small standing positions in front of the old Stand normally near the half way line.
Still, the answer of course is I don't know. I would prefer we stopped winning the toss and started winning the games! 😉⚽️
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Post by plainmoorpete on Oct 24, 2022 22:12:51 GMT
I have always wondered if there was a tacit agreement between clubs along the lines of "you can attack your chosen end in the second half as long as you agree to let us attack our chosen end in the return fixture" because that seems the only logical explanation as to why we almost always attack the Ellacombe End in the second half.
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Post by hector on Oct 24, 2022 22:15:32 GMT
Of course a famous game where kicked towards the Ellacombe End first half was the Scarborough play-off game
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