rjdgull
TFF member
Admin
Posts: 12,227
|
Post by rjdgull on Mar 11, 2023 10:30:33 GMT
I will be there this afternoon but I’m not confident……. link
|
|
hector
TFF member
Posts: 1,311
|
Post by hector on Mar 11, 2023 11:24:18 GMT
I will be there too but I really don’t want to be. Would really rather not be there for the likely humiliation of watching Corrie Andrews score against us. I’m only going because my Dad needs someone to take him and I’ll get in for free as his carer, otherwise I feel done with the club for this season and just feel I’m lining Clarke Osborne’s pocket with any money I pay over the turnstile (or rather online) with no prospect of it being used for the benefit of the team.
|
|
petef
Match Room Manager
Posts: 4,626
|
Post by petef on Mar 11, 2023 11:32:36 GMT
I very much doubt anything will change tactically or results wise. After the recent desperately poor run when we continued with exactly the same schoolboy errors i see no reason to be optimistic. Possible we could get a win if they dont turn up i suppose but i cant see it and in any case there would be little to celebrate as were now so far off the safety zone and favorites for the drop along with Maidstone. A draw is no use whatsoever now as we run out of games so we will end up being even more open and exposed and will very likely concede a few .
|
|
|
Post by stig123 on Mar 11, 2023 12:10:37 GMT
What odds a Corrie Andrews hat trick?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 13:05:13 GMT
No hat tricks today I’m afraid…certainly not from our team!
I can predict that we will get a shed load of corners, and fail to score from any of them, and our attempts on goal will be less than a handful.
As for the other team…opposite to the above! 🦧
|
|
Jon
Admin
Posts: 6,912
|
Post by Jon on Mar 11, 2023 14:02:43 GMT
When we were 1 up at Solihull, the “live table” did not look too bad.
Our usual trick of throwing the game away and all the other results going the wrong way suddenly makes it look almost hopeless.
We can still turn it around but very unlikely - unless there is a radical change.
Johnson mentions that we are always “in the game” as it enters its final stages.
The fact that we very rarely turn close games into wins is very much linked to the appalling subs bench we have every game - not just in quality but in balance.
Hope we have Jarvis, Hall and Moxey available today. Not too worried about McGavin and not all worried about Crowe who nobody had realised was injured.
Even if Jarvis is fit we have just four attacking players, not counting injured Koszela and two kids out on loan, at the club.
How ridiculous is that?
If we play 4-4-2 with Collins and Evans wide, there will be zero attacking option on the bench yet again.
That’s not bad luck, it’s bad management.
We now have three very good combative midfielders, but not one fit to play ninety minutes. Lapslie and Dawson to start with Hall on the bench?
We really need a win today.
Can we overcome self-imposed handicaps to achieve one?
|
|
Jon
Admin
Posts: 6,912
|
Post by Jon on Mar 11, 2023 14:38:12 GMT
Jarvis back. Hall on bench. No Moxey or McGavin.
Omar at left back!!!!
4-4-2 with all four attacking players starting.
No attacking option on the bench. Ridiculous. Anyone got Finchy's phone number?
|
|
petef
Match Room Manager
Posts: 4,626
|
Post by petef on Mar 11, 2023 14:45:33 GMT
A bench of intent! And a team of T hope but little else You can be certain we will concede more than one. That'll be MacGavin out for the season just when he stated to show a little improvement and maybe Moxey's played his last game for us. Who's this Hall bloke? Has Omar been injured or was he sent to exile for six weeks?
Ever since GJ's been manager we've suffered a ridiculous amount of injuries.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 15:59:47 GMT
No hat tricks today I’m afraid…certainly not from our team! I can predict that we will get a shed load of corners, and fail to score from any of them, and our attempts on goal will be less than a handful. As for the other team…opposite to the above! 🦧 The red card has thrown things a bit corner wise, but we have had two attempts on goal and they have had fourteen…and it’s only the first half!
|
|
|
Post by stig123 on Mar 11, 2023 17:27:33 GMT
The silence on this forum says it all..... At least we have England v France 6 nations to look forward to....... Pants!
|
|
chelstongull
TFF member
Posts: 6,759
Favourite Player: Jason Fowler
|
Post by chelstongull on Mar 11, 2023 17:36:46 GMT
The silence on this forum says it all..... At least we have England v France 6 nations to look forward to....... Pants! Watching the Notts County v Dorking game, would rather watch the test card than the rugger I’m afraid. Can’t fault the effort from the team but effort unless you score more goals than the opposition it don’t win games 😢
|
|
petef
Match Room Manager
Posts: 4,626
|
Post by petef on Mar 11, 2023 18:53:26 GMT
We know where we're heading the hope has now all but disappeared. All of the straws have been clutched. The softly conceded goal in injury time was inevitable, it's been the same for weeks and typical of what's been happening all season. I for one feel betrayed by the club and what's happened and clearly shows me their intent. Every signing Including the desperate and poor loans show me that the owners really have no inetention of stopping us drop down again.
Putting my name down for an allotment at Plainmoor, vegetable's are the only thing that will ever prosper on that patch of land.
|
|
hector
TFF member
Posts: 1,311
|
Post by hector on Mar 11, 2023 18:54:31 GMT
Well we lost as most of us thought we could. If this game had been in November, we’d perhaps be lamenting our bad luck and praising the endeavour, but it’s not enough. Today was the final nail really, and we are down and will be playing the likes of Hornchurch, Weston-super-Mare maybe even Poole along with Taunton next season.
Wealdstone started with some intent with their speedy, lean-looking number ten who is called Corrie Andrews. The Corrie Andrews we sent to them was fat and slow so some boot camp they are running there.
Knowing we are getting relegated has taken the pressure and even the jeopardy away from the matches so it was almost funny that Lapslie was sent off after 5 minutes or so and will now likely be banned for around 3 games.
Halstead played bravely through a kick in the head and was being fed painkillers by sub goaly, Lovett, who funnily enough probably didn’t want to have to come on due to having some of his fingers strapped so even our players who don’t play get injured. Anyway, their goal had a sense of inevitability about it; it had been coming whereas ours came after a bit of comedy from their keeper when clearing but was taken well by Evans (who incidentally played very well today). A lot of Torquay fans missed it, however, due to being stuck in the loo, bar or food queue, or having people walking in front of them back to their seat, so early into the second half it was scored.
We could have won it but you knew we’d blow it and we did and that’s that. We are not coming back from this.
I fear this relegation will mirror our second relegation from the EFL. We will likely struggle and eventually find ourselves struggling to even be in the NLS. Perhaps that’s the plan: let us falter to such an extent that when we are playing at Tiverton’s level or lower it becomes a general agreement that Plainmoor is far too big and unnecessary for 300 fans.
|
|
|
Post by Swanny on Mar 11, 2023 19:21:21 GMT
I decided to go today after missing the last few home games and paid an extra £2 for the "pleasure". After 8 minutes it was the wrong decision. We started brightly enough and Lapsie had already shown his intentions in wet and slippery conditions in winning one sliding tackle. After all that is a big part of his game in winning tackles in midfield. On 8 minutes Lapsie slid in again and fouled the Wealdstone player who went rolling around. The referee took little time in making a decision and out came the red card! It was a foul and yes probably a yellow. Was it really dangerous enough to be red in such slippery conditions – I personally doubt it.
Torquay’s game plan went out the window and the whole complexion of the game changed. It was backs to the wall for Torquay for the rest of the match. In that sense Torquay did stand up and gave everything. It would have been hard enough with 11 players. The trouble is that we all know this team is very limited and there were some horrible mistakes like Marshall mis-kicking in the box or Lawrence hesitating and letting in Wealdstone for a 1-on-1. Thankfully Halstead was in outstanding form and pulled off a string of outstanding saves and on one occasion got kicked in the face thanks to his bravery. It was no surprise when Wealdstone finally took the lead just before half time. Halstead could only parry a shot and Wealdstone were first to respond and tapped in the rebound.
Remarkably Toquay equalized just after the break. A through ball caught out their keeper in no mans land outside the box. Evans got the ball and from outside the box hit the ball past covering defenders into the net. It was a decent finish by Evans. Game on. Torquay did not help themselves by not keeping possession well so Wealdstone kept building attacks and it was a case if they could find a way through Torquay. Wealdstone passed the ball patiently as Torquay offered little apart from hard work and keeping solid with 10 men. Andrews got through for a 1-on-1 but Halstead saved. Soon after Andrews who was being a nuisance trying block Halstead’s drop kicks and finally got one full in the face! Andrews being Andrews went down like he had been shot and was eventually substituted.
In added time Wealdstone finally got the winner. A through ball past our back line was picked up by a runner and this time Halstead could not stop a 1-on-1. Some Torquay players sank to their knees as all their efforts counted for nothing. Torquay nearly equalized from a corner with a right scramble that was cleared off the line. At the end some Wealdstone players, including Andrews, came celebrating over to the Popside and goading which was quite graceless.
Well what can you say. It was a farce of a game ruined by an 8 minute sending off. Torquay really tried to get something and gave their all. However the truth of the matter is that we should have lost by a few goals and it was mainly Halstead’s heroics that kept us in it. We are a desperately poor team and it is a sad state of affairs when our club is being outplayed by a very average looking Wealdstone team and just hanging in there in desperation. Ok today I suppose we did have an excuse that we played nearly the entire match with 10 men.
The players did get a decent reception at the end for all their brave efforts. It is all a sorry state to watch and another nail in the coffin today. We know it is a matter of time before relegation is confirmed. I felt very flat and sad at the end witnessing that.
|
|
|
Post by gateman49 on Mar 11, 2023 21:17:24 GMT
I've got to take issue with Hector and Swanny, firstly their winner wasn't 'inevitable' and secondly we weren't hanging on in desperation from where I was watching the match.
I agree with Swanny about the red card, the ref didn't pause to give himself time for a considered decision he went straight to the red card while watching the usual dying swan act from Kretzschmar who then, of course, made a miraculous recovery. A booking maybe but, in my book, no worse than a mistimed tackle.
Then Halstead gets a kick in the face and the ref gives a free kick but doesn't even warn their player. He also managed to avoid getting his card out for a deliberate handball so he clearly wasn't doing us any favours.
If Fadahunsi's shot soon after the sending off had gone in rather than skimming the bar it might have been a different story and we gave as good as we got in the first half despite that scrambled goal seemingly knocking us out. To come out fighting as we did in the second half, and score so early gave me hope. Although we were then content to cede possession and invite them to have a go if they could, they didn't really pose any actual threat until that sickener at the end. Even then, we created two good chances after that and were desperately unlucky to lose.
Play like that for the rest of the season with eleven on the pitch and we still have a chance of avoiding the drop.
p.s. having now seen the highlights, watch Jervis being pulled over by a defender when about to tap the ball in during that goalmouth scramble.
|
|