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Post by petef on Feb 17, 2024 20:04:03 GMT
You are joking, right? No. Being full time is such a huge advantage that a competent manager could make up the gap separating us from seventh place IF WE ACT NOW! A competent manager would also make us competitive in playoff games if we did scrape in. In two games time, it may well be too late! So you really believe the owners are ambitious and really give a shit and will change things? A young competent, demanding manager with drive ambition and fresh ideas. That's the very last thing they want don't you think Jon? Garry Johnson is the perfect fit for them. Hes their perfect stooge who deflects attention from the main problem and their REAL objectives.
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Post by rjdgull on Feb 17, 2024 20:44:32 GMT
You could not make this up. Lapslie manages to get himself sent off while warming down after being subbed. Typical of the utter lack of self-discipline in the culture that Johnson has fostered by example. Johnson will probably whine about the ref rather than accept responsibility for the culture. He thinks he is never wrong. In fact that is the culture at the club from top to bottom. Osborne and Edwards are the same. We are always right, everyone else is wrong. A very sick culture running right through a very sick club. Does that mean he misses Away on Tuesday or home this coming Saturday? Could be a clever move.
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Post by rjdgull on Feb 17, 2024 20:51:08 GMT
Thought I would give listening to the rubbish on the radio a miss and instead get rid of some other rubbish at the local tip this afternoon. Thought losing by just one goal on the road was quite good until I saw Braintree played most of the game with just 10 men. Says it all really.
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Post by rjdgull on Feb 17, 2024 20:53:45 GMT
Brilliant goal line clearance from Dan Martin to prevent us from equalising. Does that read strange? I suppose it does. Not really, been clear for some time that the side are not playing for the manager……
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Post by rjdgull on Feb 17, 2024 20:55:56 GMT
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Post by stig123 on Feb 17, 2024 21:01:26 GMT
Beware property developers bearing gifts.
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Post by tustgull on Feb 17, 2024 21:31:53 GMT
When even Devon Live are questioning how Johnson is still in a job ,you know his position has now become untenable.
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Post by Jon on Feb 20, 2024 0:07:37 GMT
Does that mean he misses Away on Tuesday or home this coming Saturday? Could be a clever move. Probably both and maybe one more too. The commentators were confused at seeing a yellow and a red, but it was a yellow for Braintree's assistant manger and a straight red for Lapslie. Each case is judged on its merits. This is a bizarre one as neither violent conduct which gets three games nor a "professional foul" which gets one game. Two if we are lucky, probably three. Utterly stupid to handicap ourselves like this, but as expected Johnson defends him rather than call it out as unacceptable. He cannot really call it out, because he leads by example on this stupidity. We badly need a manager who instils some discipline and a winning culture not an excuses culture. I suppose Lapslie's absence will be high on his excuses list - blaming the ref not the indiscipline he has instilled in the club. With the self-inflicted absence of the over-used Hall and stupidly-banned Lapslie, I suspect he will be tempted to overuse Dawson to give the midfield some bite. Let's hope that does not lead to a third self-inflicted absence.
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Post by Jon on Feb 20, 2024 0:13:57 GMT
Brilliant goal line clearance from Dan Martin to prevent us from equalising. Does that read strange? I suppose it does. I know that I should not rely on unreliable commentators and co-commentators. No secret that I am no fan of Dan Martin so I did believe him capable of this. Watching the highlights, this just is not true. Moxey headed across goal NOT towards goal. Martin made a valiant effort to deflect the ball towards the goal but it was too high for him to have any chance of succeeding. Martin is innocent. Commentary team guilty.
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Post by Jon on Feb 20, 2024 0:25:27 GMT
He's their perfect stooge who deflects attention from the main problem and their REAL objectives. I strongly disagree. A sizeable minority has always been very aware of their objectives regardless of form on the pitch. Probably a majority put this out of their minds when we were top of the National League. Gary Johnson could do no wrong and when he declared that we had good owners, a lot of people believed him. Now he has the opposite effect. He spouts so much nonsense that his defence of the owners actually makes people trust them less! Why are they keeping him in a job when he has clearly lost the plot? What are they up to? Are they killing the club deliberately? I don't actually think they are but can understand why many think this is the case. If they had the freehold, wrecking the club might be an objective but I cannot see what they would gain from it without the freehold The only way for Osborne and Edwards to regain any credibility and for people to consider taking stadium proposals seriously is to turn things around on the pitch. The only way to do that is to bring in a competent manager immediately. I don't think they will do it but I certainly think they should. If they did, then getting in to the top seven would be an achievable objective. Not easy, but doable.
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Post by petef on Feb 20, 2024 11:48:11 GMT
You're way behind me with your viewpoint Jon. Eighteen maybe even twelve months ago I would have posted a similar opinion and still had some remaining faith in the owners and that if it all started to downhill they would act in the best interests of the football club to stop the slide. I have seen zero evidence that they are even remotely concerned where we are a or where we will ultimately end up. Quite obvious to me and confirmed by their contempt for the fan base and total inaction. No other professional football club at any level woud have allowed this situation to fester and deteriorate as it has and continues to do so. I admire your faith and belief that this ramshackle squad could somehow make the play offs and win promotion with a new manager that simply isn't going to happen. The owners have no interest and are not interested in the football or sports side of their "business' to me anything they say which is only ever a controlled and managed rare event, is just a smokescreen ,unless you have other information im not aware of.
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Post by Jon on Feb 20, 2024 17:29:18 GMT
You're way behind me with your viewpoint Jon. Eighteen maybe even twelve months ago I would have posted a similar opinion and still had some remaining faith in the owners and that if it all started to downhill they would act in the best interests of the football club to stop the slide. I have seen zero evidence that they are even remotely concerned where we are a or where we will ultimately end up. Quite obvious to me and confirmed by their contempt for the fan base and total inaction. No other professional football club at any level woud have allowed this situation to fester and deteriorate as it has and continues to do so. I admire your faith and belief that this ramshackle squad could somehow make the play offs and win promotion with a new manager that simply isn't going to happen. The owners have no interest and are not interested in the football or sports side of their "business' to me anything they say which is only ever a controlled and managed rare event, is just a smokescreen ,unless you have other information im not aware of. Pete, if you realised this eighteen months ago, you are six years behind me not eighteen months ahead. Where on earth have I said that the owners care about best interests of the football club? I have consistently said, ever since Gaming International were first mooted as buyers, that they are property developers and exist to make money from property not to care what happens to football clubs. That is why I was so keen for Dave Phillips to take up the offer from the FSA and TUST of launching a community share issue to stop the club falling into their hands. That is why I was so angry at his board for allowing this to happen. Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference. I tried to change that and failed, so moved on. I take some comfort from the fact that the council owns the freehold but am aware that we need to stay on our toes. If the club had the freehold, winding up the football club might benefit the owners. Without the freehold, it would not. A dog in a manger approach would gain them nothing. The club refused to answer my questions on what will they do when it become clear there will be no stadium and what is the exit strategy. We will build a stadium they said. I doubt they will, but getting the enabling development that goes with a proposed stadium is the only good exit. To get that, they need to make a reasonable amount of people believe that they might build a stadium. My point is that if the club is doing well on the field, some believe them. In the current situation, nobody believes them. That is why Osborne will want a turn around. Not because he cares about the football club, but to keep hold of his enabling development plan.
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Post by petef on Feb 20, 2024 19:34:49 GMT
Possibly Jon but I believe certain thought processes and policies may well have changed from when they first arrived on the scene trying to win favour. To my way of thinking and from what I'm witnessing each week they appear to be adopting another strategy and have abandoned the idea of winning over the supporters and public. After all and five or is it six years on, they have made little if any progress with their true business plans.
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Post by Jon on Feb 20, 2024 23:09:51 GMT
Possibly Jon but I believe certain thought processes and policies may well have changed from when they first arrived on the scene trying to win favour. To my way of thinking and from what I'm witnessing each week they appear to be adopting another strategy and have abandoned the idea of winning over the supporters and public. After all and five or is it six years on, they have made little if any progress with their true business plans. If you remember, they were very unpopular for nearly two years as we got relegated and struggled in National League South. Then they tripped into Gary Johnson and he lifted the mood overnight. Johnson became the sole voice of the club and he was universally popular. It must have felt wonderful for CO and GE to have him fronting up and keeping everyone onside. Maybe that is why GE does not want that period to end. Gary Johnson has lost the plot, but I don’t think this is a corporate strategy decision for him to lose the plot.
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