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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2009 21:34:42 GMT
Mark Loram, a Torquay United - and Taunton Town - legend still turning out for Upton Athletic at the age of 41. From a 1989 programme: And from Friday's Herald Express:
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Post by chelstongull on Jan 4, 2009 21:42:26 GMT
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Post by Dave on Jan 4, 2009 22:26:27 GMT
Ant was in a cup final a few seasons ago and it was against Upton, Mark scored four goals that game. Despite looking old, well sorry but you get a picture in your head how you remembered them, much as I did for David Essex, who I had seem three times when I was first married at the Princess, only in Plymouth last year, I saw a Grey haired old man on stage Mark still hits the ball with so much power and he can still play. Also in the Upton side was the brother of my boss, who did play for TUFC,(not sure what level) Alex Crook.
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Jan 4, 2009 23:01:02 GMT
The famous Loram haircut - business at the front, party at the back!
Was watching footage of the great man only this very evening - could it really have been nearly 18 years ago?! Could it also have been just a handful of seasons that he played for us? It felt like decades in my mind......... I should remind myself that although there is the element of tragedy about Lors and he never reached the heights that his talent should have propelled him to, he gave a lot of people a lot of joy when he took to the pitch. I don't think I've seen him play since he left us for the last time, but watching him turn-out for Stockport County at the tail-end of the 91/92 season was very strange and sad.
It would be easy for some to point the finger at Mark and call him a "waster of talent", but the death of his father seemed to have a huge impact on his career and don't think it is simple as that. Perhaps in different circumstances he could have made it at QPR, or even progressed again from his second spell at Plainmoor (or technically third as he left temporarily to work on the trawlers, didn't he?). He seemed to be better at set-pieces from long-range than from the penalty spot (where I personally saw him miss at least 3 penalties!).
I still think to myself when we are holding-on to a lead in injury time that we could do with Lors holding the ball-up in the corner. Anyway, the long and short of it is that I idolised Lors when I was a kid and he'll always feature in my favorite ever TUFC team.
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Post by Jon on Jan 5, 2009 0:13:17 GMT
Perhaps in different circumstances he could have made it at QPR, or even progressed again from his second spell at Plainmoor (or technically third as he left temporarily to work on the trawlers, didn't he?). You could almost lose count of the number of spells : 1. Signed by Bruce Rioch as a YTS for the 1983/84 season. 2. Left at end of season, but brought back by Dave Webb during 1984/85. 3. Signed on loan by Stuart Morgan for the 1986/87 run-in, after leaving for QPR a year earlier. 4. Signed permanently by Cyril Knowles at the start of the 1987/88 season. 5. Given another chance by Knowles after quitting the game to become a fisherman early in 1988/89. 6. Given a short-term contract by Don O'Riordan at the start of the 1993/94 season, after being kicked out at the end of the 1991/92 season. Have I missed any?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2009 9:19:02 GMT
Lors' post-Football League career would probably fill the rest of this page. I can think of fairly significant spells at Taunton, Elmore, Minehead, Penzance and Dartmouth. There must now be a considerable number of "spells" at Upton Athletic. Pretty sure he's also been at Totnes & Dartington, Brixham Villa (as he was as a kid) and several teams in Sunday football. There must be more!
His Penzance spell, which I was reminded of recently, was due to him being suspended from the Western League due to an off-the-filed misdemeanour at Elmore.
All told he must have played around 800-1000 games I'd imagine?
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Post by vinny on Jan 5, 2009 10:11:02 GMT
If any of you ever wanna catch up with him, the Union in Plainmoor is your best bet.
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Post by buster on Jan 5, 2009 13:21:38 GMT
May be having a senior moment......but didn`t our Sherpa final coincide with a period when he was struggling to come to terms with diabetes, or was that a story put out to cover for guiness?
Sadly in my view football lacks characters such as ML.
When I were a lad there was the likes of Frank Worthington, Rodney Marsh, Stan Bowles, George Best, Supermac, Le Tissier & Willie Brown (sorry had to include a gull) who brought skill and personality to the game. Then there was the nutters like Chopper Harris & Bremner. Now all we get are ivory tower athletes.
Story that was doing the rounds a few years back when Keiron Dyer was at Ipswich. KD was in a night club queuing at the bar. He was waving a £50 note around to get the barmans attention. Realising this hadn`t impressed anyone, upon finally catching the eye of the barman he sets light to the note shouting "that could have been yours". enough said.
Give me the BSP any day. I don`t care what league we are in as long as we remain well run, moderately successful and true to the grass roots of the game.
buster
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Post by gandalfgull on Jan 5, 2009 23:03:26 GMT
I was honoured to play against him when i played in the Devon and Exeter youth league. He had an awesome strike. I remember making a save and he came up and said ' bloody hell those normally go in'. I then threw the ball straight out to them and they scored anyway!
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Post by Dave on Jan 5, 2009 23:06:33 GMT
I was honoured to play against him when i played in the Devon and Exeter youth league. If had an awesome strike. I remember making a save and he came up and said ' bloody hell those normally go in'. I then threw the ball straight out to them and they scored anyway! Yes, but you made a save that the great man would have expected you not too, one to tell the grandkids I think ;D
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Post by gandalfgull on Jan 5, 2009 23:08:52 GMT
Its my claim to local fame! Told a few popsiders when he played too!
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Post by Dave on Jan 5, 2009 23:18:18 GMT
Its my claim to local fame! Told a few popsiders when he played too! Its good to have a claim to fame, I have a few and having some great memories are so good to have, as we can look back and remember days in our lives that gave us so much pleasure.
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Post by gandalfgull on Jan 6, 2009 8:51:44 GMT
Dave couldn't agree more. My memories of playing then are great and have recently made contact again with some of my fellow players. Memories of the mud at Chagford and the tiny pitch at Shaldon......
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Post by merse on Jan 6, 2009 10:44:59 GMT
Dave couldn't agree more. My memories of playing then are great and have recently made contact again with some of my fellow players. Memories of the mud at Chagford and the tiny pitch at Shaldon...... That was some pitch wasn't it! Like a postage stamp, and I remember when I played there in the Youth League for Newtor United having a bet that I could throw the ball from one side of the pitch to the other - during play, touchline to touchline. The first time I tried it a guy called Adie Boult intercepted with his head and vollied a screamer into our net from about thirty yards out .....................didn't make any more attempts after that but it shows what sort of pitch it was. Shaldon Villa had some great players in a very tough team in my time.....................Keith Mason, Dave and Adie Boult, Paul Crawford, Tommy Trankle and Ian Twitchin were all top quality and they were huge rivals of ours with games between us drawing large and partisan crowds.
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