Post by Dave on May 1, 2009 22:50:44 GMT
Been a little bitter quieter on the forum this week and more so during the day, but it has always been the case that as it is mainly an adult forum, it gets more posts in the evening.
Still would be good to see a few more sharing their views on the forum and a few more starting threads. Fonda came a close second this week and while I know some have got wound up by a few of his posts, he does post what he believes or the way he sees it and he has always done so in a non rude type of way to any other member.
Love the thread by budleighgull in the grounds review board and I'm still waiting for merse to post the baby as come at last thread.
This weeks winner? well its me and while its great to receive votes, I would prefer not to get any as I post mainly to keep the forum working and ticking over, but thanks fellow members anyway its good to know that some of my posts are considered worthy of winning the ward
A post I made this week
As always a very good debate on this thread and some interesting and differing view points have been made.In the end it all comes downs to expectations and making judgments on Bucks about if he has achieved what we should have based on what some believe he has had at his disposal to get his team out of the BSP.
All I heard on this forum was that with all the resources he had, Bucks getting the team into the play-offs was the least we should expect, some went on to say if he done that then they would be happy.
Bucks has done that in both seasons in his first and second year in management, I wonder how many first time managers have done that, did the manager up the road achieve that feat?
Another thing we keep hearing is about how many mistakes Bucks has made, far more than he should have some people cry. I take the view that everyone has to learn and making mistakes along the way can be good as long as you admit the mistakes and look to see what you can learn from them. By doing so you stand the chance of improving your skills and decision making. but the problems with making mistakes is how costly they turn out to be.
I have always been in the school of thought that poor team selection and more importantly tactics, was the real reason that City went up in what I considered to be our place.What fans wanted really was an honest put your hands up job,one where Bucks said I think I got it wrong.
Being honest and admitting you have got things wrong, is the best way in my book to get the respect of the fans, no one can really expect Bucks to get everything right all of the time, but even when he does get it right, the result will still come down to those out on the pitch doing what was required.
For me the only thing that has disappointed me with Bucks has been his failure to say I got it wrong, now I know merse will give good reasons why he believes that a manager should not do that, its just that is what would show me he is working hard to learn from those mistakes he has made and only beacuse he has admiited he got that or this wrong.
One thing about life is that when things do go wrong and not turn out the way one would hope, so often blame is looked for, who's fault was it? and why did they not do something to prevent it happening, while others may say he could do no more, he did his best and we can ask no more than that.
I do wonder if we are a bunch of moaners at times, lose a game and the HE site is full of anti Buckle comments, how many views were made on the story of Steve Woods,? can anyone tell me why when we win against Burton, a good game and perfect result, not one comment has been added to the story on the HE.
No well dones to Bucks and the players, but If we had lost and as a result lost our play-off spot, then you would have seen 30+ views posted on the HE site.I talked with some fellow members before the Burton game and we all asked what the forum would be like when we got home. A win and play-off place and the forum would be a happy place, a defeat and out of the play-offs, then it would have had plenty of anti Buckle posts.
This forum was started after last season had ended and at a time I was not very emotionally stable, due to all that was going on with Carol after we had dared to hope we had won the battle with cancer. Merse played such a big part in helping the forum tick over and one Saturday night it was just me and mickyflash on the forum making posts.
I did get days of of pure frustration I admit that, coming home from work after having to fight voices in my head all day on my own in the van, then looking forward to escaping on the forum, only to find so many had been on and no one had made any posts.
Dear graygull posted that once the football season started the posts would flow, only we made a poor start to the season and I feared that the forum was becoming far to negative, but to be fair it was the general mood of the fans at that time and the posts made on the forum only really reflected how fans were feeling about our poor start.
Its fine to have views points that differ from others, its fine to see things the way you see then and post those views, I have always respected those who state there views and stick with them if that is what they truly believe.
Its the members who come in shouting the loudest and then run and hide if others do not agree with them, those who throw their toys out of the pram and those who if what they have stood by turns out not to be correct, then they fail to say sorry I got it wrong.
The biggest and loudest anti Buckle voice on here belonged to Dave Shaw, I dreaded ever time we lost a game this season, as I knew he would have started a thread, always claiming that Bucks had no balls. Sorry but did Dave Shaw show he had any balls of his own? He was always free to post his views on the forum, but being so anti Buckle as he was, he needed balls to take any flack that came his way due to the views he held.
He proved he had no balls and deleted his account, then when we lost another game he opened a new account using a different user name and started a new anti Buckle thread, he simply was not man enough to come on here and post under the name we all knew him as, that for me had the effect of dismissing all the views he ever made on the forum.
That is where posters like enzo are so different and I have respect for him and others who may not see things the way most on here do, but will post his own views and give his reasons and will still give praise if he thinks its due.
If we go up as we all hope then will we see Dave Shaw come on here and say I got it wrong lads, Bucks has shown hes got the balls and the skills and know how to get this team out of the BSP, I wonder if the worst was to happen and we did not go up, will we see him then? will we be treated to I told you so.
We will see but unlike Dave Shaw Bucks has shown he has got balls, he is not running or hiding away, he is still there and giving it all he has to get TUFC back into the football league, he even more recently has shown that he is prepared to put his hand up when he has got things wrong and we can ask no more than our manager being honest and doing what he believes is best for the team and doing what he believes will bring us the success we all crave for.
Still would be good to see a few more sharing their views on the forum and a few more starting threads. Fonda came a close second this week and while I know some have got wound up by a few of his posts, he does post what he believes or the way he sees it and he has always done so in a non rude type of way to any other member.
Love the thread by budleighgull in the grounds review board and I'm still waiting for merse to post the baby as come at last thread.
This weeks winner? well its me and while its great to receive votes, I would prefer not to get any as I post mainly to keep the forum working and ticking over, but thanks fellow members anyway its good to know that some of my posts are considered worthy of winning the ward
A post I made this week
As always a very good debate on this thread and some interesting and differing view points have been made.In the end it all comes downs to expectations and making judgments on Bucks about if he has achieved what we should have based on what some believe he has had at his disposal to get his team out of the BSP.All I heard on this forum was that with all the resources he had, Bucks getting the team into the play-offs was the least we should expect, some went on to say if he done that then they would be happy.
Bucks has done that in both seasons in his first and second year in management, I wonder how many first time managers have done that, did the manager up the road achieve that feat?
Another thing we keep hearing is about how many mistakes Bucks has made, far more than he should have some people cry. I take the view that everyone has to learn and making mistakes along the way can be good as long as you admit the mistakes and look to see what you can learn from them. By doing so you stand the chance of improving your skills and decision making. but the problems with making mistakes is how costly they turn out to be.
I have always been in the school of thought that poor team selection and more importantly tactics, was the real reason that City went up in what I considered to be our place.What fans wanted really was an honest put your hands up job,one where Bucks said I think I got it wrong.
Being honest and admitting you have got things wrong, is the best way in my book to get the respect of the fans, no one can really expect Bucks to get everything right all of the time, but even when he does get it right, the result will still come down to those out on the pitch doing what was required.
For me the only thing that has disappointed me with Bucks has been his failure to say I got it wrong, now I know merse will give good reasons why he believes that a manager should not do that, its just that is what would show me he is working hard to learn from those mistakes he has made and only beacuse he has admiited he got that or this wrong.
One thing about life is that when things do go wrong and not turn out the way one would hope, so often blame is looked for, who's fault was it? and why did they not do something to prevent it happening, while others may say he could do no more, he did his best and we can ask no more than that.
I do wonder if we are a bunch of moaners at times, lose a game and the HE site is full of anti Buckle comments, how many views were made on the story of Steve Woods,? can anyone tell me why when we win against Burton, a good game and perfect result, not one comment has been added to the story on the HE.
No well dones to Bucks and the players, but If we had lost and as a result lost our play-off spot, then you would have seen 30+ views posted on the HE site.I talked with some fellow members before the Burton game and we all asked what the forum would be like when we got home. A win and play-off place and the forum would be a happy place, a defeat and out of the play-offs, then it would have had plenty of anti Buckle posts.
This forum was started after last season had ended and at a time I was not very emotionally stable, due to all that was going on with Carol after we had dared to hope we had won the battle with cancer. Merse played such a big part in helping the forum tick over and one Saturday night it was just me and mickyflash on the forum making posts.
I did get days of of pure frustration I admit that, coming home from work after having to fight voices in my head all day on my own in the van, then looking forward to escaping on the forum, only to find so many had been on and no one had made any posts.
Dear graygull posted that once the football season started the posts would flow, only we made a poor start to the season and I feared that the forum was becoming far to negative, but to be fair it was the general mood of the fans at that time and the posts made on the forum only really reflected how fans were feeling about our poor start.
Its fine to have views points that differ from others, its fine to see things the way you see then and post those views, I have always respected those who state there views and stick with them if that is what they truly believe.
Its the members who come in shouting the loudest and then run and hide if others do not agree with them, those who throw their toys out of the pram and those who if what they have stood by turns out not to be correct, then they fail to say sorry I got it wrong.
The biggest and loudest anti Buckle voice on here belonged to Dave Shaw, I dreaded ever time we lost a game this season, as I knew he would have started a thread, always claiming that Bucks had no balls. Sorry but did Dave Shaw show he had any balls of his own? He was always free to post his views on the forum, but being so anti Buckle as he was, he needed balls to take any flack that came his way due to the views he held.
He proved he had no balls and deleted his account, then when we lost another game he opened a new account using a different user name and started a new anti Buckle thread, he simply was not man enough to come on here and post under the name we all knew him as, that for me had the effect of dismissing all the views he ever made on the forum.
That is where posters like enzo are so different and I have respect for him and others who may not see things the way most on here do, but will post his own views and give his reasons and will still give praise if he thinks its due.
If we go up as we all hope then will we see Dave Shaw come on here and say I got it wrong lads, Bucks has shown hes got the balls and the skills and know how to get this team out of the BSP, I wonder if the worst was to happen and we did not go up, will we see him then? will we be treated to I told you so.
We will see but unlike Dave Shaw Bucks has shown he has got balls, he is not running or hiding away, he is still there and giving it all he has to get TUFC back into the football league, he even more recently has shown that he is prepared to put his hand up when he has got things wrong and we can ask no more than our manager being honest and doing what he believes is best for the team and doing what he believes will bring us the success we all crave for.