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Post by Dave on Apr 11, 2009 21:49:02 GMT
Looking at the table after our defeat against Crawley, its clear we need to get back to wining ways as we could find even getting a play-off spot might prove beyond us. At this stage of the season just one result can change the picture very quickly, one game going up as champions looks possible, one game later and a play-off place could look as if its there to lose.
I feel its time to make a few changes to the starting line up, firstly Hargreaves clearly is suffering the effects of a long season and maybe Thompson or even Adams need to be played and give Hargreaves a rest.
Sturrock is another player who is showing signs that he is not 100% fit and while he has done well in the games he has started for us, I do feel that a fit Matt Green should start along side Sills, benyon may well be Bucks choice, but I would also start with Dsane and Carayol and use their collective pace to open up Salisbury.
Mansell has played well since his return to the side and will start, maybe its time to also give Toddy a rest and start with Robertson and Hodges, or even mark Ellis.
After this game we may well see a play-off place looking almost certain, or alarm bells starting to ring as we find ourselves outside the play-off zone.
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Post by Rob on Apr 11, 2009 22:03:10 GMT
It's very unlikely we would slip out of the play-off zone on Monday. I like the idea of giving Carayol a go, after what sounded like a good performance today. I doubt Todd will be dropped. Any reason why you suggest this, Dave?
Bevan
Mansell
Todd
Robertson
Nicholson
Carayol
Wroe
Hargreaves
Dsane
Sills
Sturrock
That's the team I expect, unless Sturrock is unfit. I suspect it will be Benyon over Green if he isn't.
I expect there will be as many Gulls there as there will be Salisbury fans. Need to win. Hopefully Crawley will beat Stevenage for us.
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Post by Dave on Apr 11, 2009 22:23:34 GMT
Rob, I just wonder if Chris Todd has pushed himself a bit to far, he has done so well dealing with his treatment and getting back to playing again, I just felt he looked a bit weaker today.
He still gave his best as you would expect, but there are times when having to fight cancer, that you need to say I've done so well so far, but now need a battery recharge.
Thats the only reason Rob, its better not to try and over do things and we have players who can step in and still do a good job.
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Post by jmgull on Apr 11, 2009 23:09:19 GMT
...Sad walking back to the car today, realising that their will be no title shoot out to come against Burton.
Still it was nice to dream for the last few days that it might have been possible...
Most have made excellent observations about the game, galling to admit that the panto villians Evans and Raynor got their tactics right today, happy though, to wish them many years of berating refs and winding everyone else up at some non descript club in non league football.
We were almost a victim of our last excellent two performances, we weren't in reality, going to keep playing to that level we needed a bit of luck today to get a result.....nothing really fell for us though.
The ref was poor today, really poor....Sills threat was totally nullified today, Quinn was a tough cookie alright, you can imagine Evans had asked him to do a job on Sills, he realises how important he is to us, he must have fouled him 20 times at least resulting in about 3 or 4 free kicks.......the effect this had was that the ball just kept coming back to us, rather than sticking up front......seriously damaging our ability to create chances.
Carayol was great and caused panic when he came on, he was unlucky not to score aswell, when he finally breaks his duck for us....he may well become a regular scorer in seasons to come.
Benyon needs to be moved on at the end of the season......he hasn't quite got enough to play for a top team at this level, as has been rightly pointed out, we need someone with far better anticipation to play off Sills, Benyon for me, does not take the big chances in the big games.
I keep hearing that Tisdale likes him, lets hope that this is the 1st sign that Tisdale is suffering from the early symptoms of "Leroyitis" (starting to think that you're so good a coach, that you can turn average players into good 'uns;)).
20 or 30k would help to sign the right experienced striker next season.
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Post by merse on Apr 12, 2009 7:54:44 GMT
. Sills threat was totally nullified today, Quinn was a tough cookie alright, you can imagine Evans had asked him to do a job on Sills, he realises how important he is to us, he must have fouled him 20 times at least resulting in about 3 or 4 free kicks.......the effect this had was that the ball just kept coming back to us, rather than sticking up front......seriously damaging our ability to create chances.  ................and to think the abuse I attracted when I offered the opinion that Sills really didn't appear to fancy playing up against Quinn at Crawley and indeed spent his time on the pitch actively trying to "avoid" him....................perhaps he should have "avoided" running into the big ugly git yesterday. Sometimes (like Kingskerswell) it's advisable to by pass a problem rather than battle in vain to go through it! |
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Post by merse on Apr 12, 2009 8:05:17 GMT
The Easter holiday period has historically been the time when certain players are "rested" often much to the consternation of the fans who are not party to the aches and pains that are brought into the treatment room the morning after the day before. I must admit my own personal personal misgivings of Greavsie's apparent "high octane" and manic lifestyle and have often thought the old man would be better served becoming a couch potatoe between games in the twilight of his career.  As for Todd................of course we must bow to others' knowledge of the effects of fighting cancer ~ and he IS still fighting it remember; to say nothing of the way his head must feel this morning. Talking of heads, no sooner had BBC Devon reported the little tit bit of Coventry players out on the town in Plymouth instead of being nicely tucked up in their hotel beds on Friday night than they were regaling us of the four goals they conceded to Sparks The Village Idiot's beloved Aaaaaaaaaargyle before half time! 
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Post by Enzo on Apr 12, 2009 11:01:54 GMT
. Sills threat was totally nullified today, Quinn was a tough cookie alright, you can imagine Evans had asked him to do a job on Sills, he realises how important he is to us, he must have fouled him 20 times at least resulting in about 3 or 4 free kicks.......the effect this had was that the ball just kept coming back to us, rather than sticking up front......seriously damaging our ability to create chances. ................and to think the abuse I attracted when I offered the opinion that Sills really didn't appear to fancy playing up against Quinn at Crawley and indeed spent his time on the pitch actively trying to "avoid" him....................perhaps he should have "avoided" running into the big ugly git yesterday. Sometimes (like Kingskerswell) it's advisable to by pass a problem rather than battle in vain to go through it! What "abuse" did you attract for offering that opinion? Are you refering to this website or "abuse" elsewhere. If you ar refering to this board, you may do well to re-read the exchange. People disagreed with you in a respectful and polite manner and substatiated why they felt the way they did. Surely this is what a forum is for?? You give the impression of a person who is not used to others challenging your opinion. |
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Post by merse on Apr 12, 2009 11:22:50 GMT
What "abuse" did you attract for offering that opinion? Are you refering to this website or "abuse" elsewhere. If you ar refering to this board, you may do well to re-read the exchange. People disagreed with you in a respectful and polite manner and substatiated why they felt the way they did. Surely this is what a forum is for?? You give the impression of a person who is not used to others challenging your opinion. I was NOT referring to THIS Forum and I AM well used to people challenging my opinion! |
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Post by merse on Apr 12, 2009 11:40:15 GMT
The point I was trying to make about the merits of Benyon and Green was that I have a very strong belief that if the correct technique and disciplines have been instilled into players from a very young age this then reveals itself in the way they play the game, in particular their technique and appreciation of what is going on around them to say nothing of their "off the ball" movement. To this end I reckon Green to be a much better footballer than Benyon and whilst I do indeed believe he has worked very hard and diligently on his weaknesses, Benyon is someway behind Green in technique, control and movement. I'm not so sure that we can carry two such developing strikers in our set up next season and that the urgent need is for someone who can play off the likes of Sturrock or Sills and be relied upon to put the ball in the net on a regular basis ~ whilst being easy and predictable to read by the other front man. To me, Benyon STILL looks like he needs to take a step down in order to give himself a chance to progress in the long term, so maybe if he is to be retained a long term loan out to someone like Salisbury might be the answer for the first half or whole of next season. I don't want this being construed as disrespectful to Benyon whom I see as a genuine one hundred per center doing his very best for himself and his club.
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Post by rjdgull on Apr 12, 2009 14:46:40 GMT
Well, Buckle admitted that we looked leggy so I would concur with the above that a few changes will be made. Obviously, with the most minutes on the pitch Hargreaves is the prime candidate. Maybe Brough or Thompson as a replacement? (Just a quick question - was that Hargreaves 10th yellow card of the season? And if so is a ban on the cards or are we now past that date?) Hard to call the side Buckle will pick with his inside knowledge of both Salisbury's players and his own player's physical well being or not as the case may be. However, would like at some stage to see players able to bring a bit more energy on the pitch at the season's end like Ellis, Green, Benyon, Carayol and Dsane. Unless Weymouth win their final four games  , Salisbury are now safe from relegation so hopefully with some good away support we can go on and win this one, particularly after their late goal against us at Plainmoor.  |
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Post by petef on Apr 12, 2009 21:10:12 GMT
The side Buckle picks for this one is hard to call. Greavsy looked particularly " leggy" and once again we lacked drive and energy from the middle of the park. Adams isn't the answer , steady yes but never going to put himself in the committed positions Greavsy does so that only leaves Thompson I guess and he's been "where" these last few months? In any case Buckles on a no win if he does rest a few and it backfires even to the extent of giving Caryoll a start who definitely deserves it after the way he tore into Crawley. This guy is the real deal "when he turns up" trouble is Buckle knows it and we know it , and I also reckon he should have started many more matches particularly at home. Why hasn't he started more for us is a real mystery to me though after the start to the season the manager is very wary of upsetting the balance of the side and will always it seems select Wayno.
You cant blame him for playing it safe and then if things do go wrong, team selection isn't thrown at him once again.
With three very lose-able matches after this one its extremely important to get something at Salisbury and believe me they wont be hoisting up the white flag.
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Post by andygulls on Apr 12, 2009 21:17:27 GMT
The point I was trying to make about the merits of Benyon and Green was that I have a very strong belief that if the correct technique and disciplines have been instilled into players from a very young age this then reveals itself in the way they play the game, in particular their technique and appreciation of what is going on around them to say nothing of their "off the ball" movement. To this end I reckon Green to be a much better footballer than Benyon and whilst I do indeed believe he has worked very hard and diligently on his weaknesses, Benyon is someway behind Green in technique, control and movement. I'm not so sure that we can carry two such developing strikers in our set up next season and that the urgent need is for someone who can play off the likes of Sturrock or Sills and be relied upon to put the ball in the net on a regular basis ~ whilst being easy and predictable to read by the other front man. To me, Benyon STILL looks like he needs to take a step down in order to give himself a chance to progress in the long term, so maybe if he is to be retained a long term loan out to someone like Salisbury might be the answer for the first half or whole of next season. I don't want this being construed as disrespectful to Benyon whom I see as a genuine one hundred per center doing his very best for himself and his club. Absolutely agree with Merse.............It must be the sunshine I have had too much of today ;D |
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Post by Rob on Apr 12, 2009 21:20:19 GMT
The side Buckle picks for this one is hard to call. Greavsy looked particularly " leggy" and once again we lacked drive and energy from the middle of the park. Adams isn't the answer , steady yes but never going to put himself in the committed positions Greavsy does so that only leaves Thompson I guess I'm sure Hodges could fit in to that role if needed, also. I wouldn't rule out Wayno dropping to the bench. It didn't do him any harm before. |
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Post by phipsy on Apr 12, 2009 22:22:51 GMT
i/m a bit peed off with this crititism of benyon.
agreed his form in the last few games has been poor, but previously he was a reliable goalscorer and there is a lot more to his game than many seem to appreciate.
he was never given much chance early in the season, only coming on as a late sub.
he could be the one who will score the vital goals that will see us in the play offs and more!
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Post by merse on Apr 13, 2009 5:54:59 GMT
i/m a bit peed off with this crititism of benyon. agreed his form in the last few games has been poor, but previously he was a reliable goalscorer and there is a lot more to his game than many seem to appreciate. he was never given much chance early in the season, only coming on as a late sub. he could be the one who will score the vital goals that will see us in the play offs and more! Not naked criticism from me per se, more an observation that the general standard of our team play (build up and keeping possession) is less when he replaces someone like Sturrock...............and YES, he could well be the one who gets the vital goals in the next few weeks! |
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, Salisbury are now safe from relegation so hopefully with some good away support we can go on and win this one, particularly after their late goal against us at Plainmoor. 
