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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2009 22:12:58 GMT
I was at the new Cardiff City Stadium today for the friendly against Valencia. If you’re not aware of the story there are two things you need to know. Firstly, it’s slap bang opposite Ninian Park. Secondly, it’s being used by both Cardiff City and Cardiff Blues rugby (very much like how the Liberty is home to Swansea City and the Ospreys). Taken with Parc Y Scarlets at Llanelli, that’s three new stadiums in South Wales in quick succession and – from my view over the wall today – the transformation of the old Sophia Gardens cricket ground into the Swalec Stadium is almost as startling. But it’s not all change. The walk in the rain along Ninian Park Road remains a long old drag and the crowds still funnel under those two railway bridges on Leckwith Road. Then, as you turn left into Sloper Road, the old hulk of Ninian Park (soon to be covered by houses) still looms looking increasingly sorry for itself and ready for demolition. Indeed, not too different a scene from when we last played there in 2000/01. Then, turn to your right and you’ll see something quite different where the car park and the athletics stadium used to be. These new stadiums often impress me rather more than they excite and this one – square, solid and imposing – comes under the "impressive" heading without wholly moving me by its presence. Inside it’s pretty much what you’d expect for a 27,000 capacity stadium built in 2009. If it's your first, your jaw will drop. If you've seen a few, you'll take it in your stride. I’ve seen cheaper, nastier ones and more lush specimens – extra design features, padded seats and all – and I’d place the CCS (as the programme calls it) just above the mid-price, mid-style band. It'll certainly do. Almost inevitably, it’s next door to one of those dreary Anywhereville retail parks but the view of Ninian Park saves the day as a reminder you’re still in the part of Cardiff traditionally associated with professional football. The old routine of going to "the match" – where to park, where to drink, where to chase the away fans – is safe for generations to come. And I suspect – rather more than at other new grounds - there is a fair likelihood of the place maintaining a proper football atmosphere. Naming the end stands Canton and Grange should help and – given the call of “Bob Bank, do the Ayatollah!” directed towards the Ninian Stand (I didn't) – it appears traditions are being maintained. And, of course, the locals don’t change. A bloke of almost my years asked me at half time if I thought Ross McCormack would be leaving. I batted the question away by saying I wasn’t actually a Cardiff supporter to which he immediately asked “you’re not from Swansea, are you?” Not in a threatening manner I must add – Cardiff people make me smile more than anything else – but a clear sign this lot aren’t ripe for gentrification just yet. In that sense I’m not sure how they’ll respond to tannoy announcements telling them that “the next home game at the Cardiff City Stadium is against Scunthorpe United and if you wish to purchase the event call now on 0845....”As for the game, Valencia – minus their biggest names – won 2-0 in front of 13,000. I enjoyed it and thought it was a pretty even first half. But, as the substitutes came on, Valencia’s second half side looked better than the earlier version and the gap in class widened. I doubt, however, that Los Che have ever been called "You Jack Bastards" before. It must have been those white shirts.... The pictures below are taken from today’s programme and
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Post by Dave on Aug 1, 2009 22:54:30 GMT
Great report that was a joy to read, having walked the road past the old stadium while waiting to go in, you post brought it all back to me. Where can I find another ten like you Barton ;D
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Post by merse on Aug 2, 2009 4:16:19 GMT
Cardiff people make me smile more than anything else – but a clear sign this lot aren’t ripe for gentrification just yet. In that sense I’m not sure how they’ll respond to tannoy announcements telling them that “the next home game at the Cardiff City Stadium is against Scunthorpe United and if you wish to purchase the event call now on 0845....” A lot like the Rangers fans who have been all over our neighbourhood like a rash for the past 24 hours..........................eighteen carat fanatics or 100% fruit loops ~ I never can decide. Certainly like the Cardiff following they harbour a "Little Fella" trying to act big mentality whenever they are in town. Sixty years plus veterans in replica shirts and their Dennis Law haircuts (hey guys that's been out of fashion for twenty years ) clutching half a dozen bottles of some insipid lager at £2.50 a bottle at the buffet counter, and a lovely "Bellshill Loyal" piece of graffiti complete with Union Jack painted on the wall behind my parking space (at least I'm not driving to work this morning with such misguided loyalty sprayed on my car) swaggering and celebrating a boring 1-0 victory over Paris St Germain as if they've won the bloody world cup (which you never have nor ever will Sweaties!) and some fifteen thousand of them bouncing and singing will be abiding memories...........................and that's only day one. At the final whistle there was a mass exodus for the pubs and bars of the 'Hood ~ you'd have thought they'd have stuck around to see some proper football for once in their lives with Arsenal playing a very tetchy and cynical Atletico Madrid and listening to the loudest and most prolonged mass derision of one player I have ever heard from a Gooners crowd..................no doubt Jose Antonio Reyes loves them too! Now we have to suffer the 'Gers for a second day with an all night drinking session under their belts and an irrational hatred of The Arse (cos they're English) to stoke them. Let's only hope and pray they don't go and get robbed with a last minute penalty today or there probably won't be a shop window left around here come Monday.........................there sure won't be any beer that's for sure! An incredible 54,000 were there yesterday although certainly not ALL of them watched ALL the football of the two back to back games what with the mass exodus of the Rangers fans and the stubborn refusal of many Gooners to come in and watch the funny cousins from over the wall even though it meant missing the incredible Pedro Mendes for Rangers and the awe inspiring teenage left PSG left back Mamadou Sakho strutting their stuff. A memorable day for Anthony too, he played an inspiring role for the Arsenal Development Under 10's once he had come on as an early sub and got the pace of the game against a big and strong Under 11 Pro Touch Academy team fresh back from a pre season tournament in Denmark. Sent on for his rapid interception and incisive tackling he managed to help his team wrest control of the midfield from much bigger and taller opponents and set up their own constructive multi passing game. The regular crowd that turn up to watch these lads (not all parents and families I might add) have really taken to my little fella and he got a little cheer when he came on even before he had kicked a ball and a ruddy great huge one when he got that first tackle in! His "fellow midget in arms" KIA found it all a bit too much today against these "giants" though but even though they found it in them to finally pull back a one goal deficit to run out 3-1 winners in an innovative game of 9-a-side four quarters (3x20 mins plus one of 15 minutes) the sight of the very smallest two resplendent in their near arm pit to well below knee length shorts is a sight to behold! ;D I think the highlight of his day though came when it was his turn to sit at the rear of the Arsenal technical area for the second half of the second game just behind Ces Fabricas and Theo Walcott his two big idols!
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Post by Dave on Aug 2, 2009 7:01:57 GMT
I have said it before merse, I think its great you really involve yourself watching and supporting Anthony playing football. The rewards make the effort and time you have to put in yourself, so worth it, more parents should try it. As regards the invasion of your neighborhood, best advice I can give his, just show a little tolerance
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Post by Dave on Aug 2, 2009 7:27:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2009 8:32:41 GMT
Thanks for the extra pictures of Cardiff, Dave, and for your comments. The main frontage - which you show - faces away from Ninian Park towards the retail area and the main A4232. The Ninian-facing side is much plainer. A few things to add whilst I remember... Firstly, the old gates from Ninian Park have been moved across the road to stand sentinel over the new place. I noticed them yesterday but didn't focus sufficiently to count the number of bluebirds present. The picture below - from www.walesonline.co.uk - was accompanied by a report saying one of the bluebirds was looted before the gates were moved. Now it's reported the second one has gone as well: Secondly, unlike most new stadiums, it's impossible to do a circuit of the outside of this one. This is because entry and egress from the away section (in one of the stadium's corners) is penned. Never sure if this is a good idea or not. Bristol City on 23 August will be the proverbial "early test". Thirdly, Dave's pictures show the finery of the stadium's conference and dining facilities. By contrast the concourse under the Ninian Stand is rather less stylish. The basics are there - plenty of loo room and refreshment facilities - but there's a slightly unfinished, rough-hewn look. Maybe this is a sign of economy or a realisation that these spaces are basically functional? Mind you, it's all a big improvement from that hellhole under the Steve Bull stand at Wolves... Lastly, the old Leckwith athletics stadium on the site of the CCS - I once saw a League of Wales game there - has been replaced by the Cardiff International Sports Stadium on the opposite side of Leckwith Road. Image comes from the Wikipedia article:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2009 9:24:43 GMT
A lot like the Rangers fans who have been all over our neighbourhood like a rash for the past 24 hours..........................eighteen carat fanatics or 100% fruit loops ~ I never can decide. Certainly like the Cardiff following they harbour a "Little Fella" trying to act big mentality whenever they are in town. Sixty years plus veterans in replica shirts and their Dennis Law haircuts..... I've noticed it's the ones in the 40-55 age group generally who seem to be reliving the Golden Age of the Hoolie, albeit at a rather gentler pace. Judging by what I saw on the train to Plymouth for Argyle's last match of the season, there's still a few veterans around from Newton Abbot. And, as for my recent travelling companions on the 2245 to Newton Abbot (a real community gathering spanning a couple of generations), they may have been gearing up for the second skrmish of the summer against their foes from Exeter. It's now becoming apparent the recent Saturday evening scrap at Exeter St Thomas was football-related and the police have been visiting addresses in Plymouth and Exeter. The Cardiff sense of humour was in evidence a few years back - okay, around fifteen years ago now - at a Sunday afternoon limited-overs game between Somerset and Glamorgan at Taunton. Glamorgan had just introduced cheap Sunday membership and "the lads" had evidently identified it as a useful way of keeping in practice between the football seasons. Their behaviour at Taunton that day amused some of us but horrified the mass ranks of the Mail on Sunday readers who urged the security staff (always rather heavy-handed under the guise of Peter Anderson, the ex-Hong Kong police officer who was Somerset's chief executive at the time) to launch full-scale thermo-nuclear action on the invaders. Maybe naked acquaplaning on the covers wasn't to everyone's liking but the sight of a Glamorgan visitor trying to gain illegal entry over a wall made a few smile when he was apprehended: "Sorry officer I was only looking for my ball, I think it's over there..." and a lovely "Bellshill Loyal" piece of graffiti complete with Union Jack painted on the wall behind my parking space (at least I'm not driving to work this morning with such misguided loyalty sprayed on my car) I suspect there's a Bellshill-born, ex-Torquay United player who doesn't come into the category of a "Bellshill Loyal". Any guesses?
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Post by Budleigh on Aug 2, 2009 10:38:38 GMT
I've moved my story about a visit to Ninian Park to the thread about the ground as it seems more appropriate... hope that's ok Dave.
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Post by merse on Aug 2, 2009 15:11:52 GMT
I suspect there's a Bellshill-born, ex-Torquay United player who doesn't come into the category of a "Bellshill Loyal". Any guesses? I very much doubt Tom Kelly would either!
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Post by Dave on Aug 2, 2009 18:06:02 GMT
Top post BudleighGull, what a great story and also a good memory you have, we need you in this mode more often mate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2009 20:26:59 GMT
I very much doubt Tom Kelly would either! The man himself. Tom's Celtic - and Hibernian - credentials wouldn't impress the Loyals, would they?
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Post by Budleigh on Aug 2, 2009 21:00:47 GMT
Thanks Dave... I like writing these memories down, it brings so much back. And actually my memory isn't that great, i've always kept a daily diary and the notes in these act as great prompts...
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Post by Dave on Aug 2, 2009 21:05:26 GMT
You share them as often as you want Leigh, we love a good read on here, maybe thats what I need to do, write things down as they happen each day ;D
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Post by merse on Aug 3, 2009 3:17:58 GMT
...........................and that's only day one. At the final whistle there was a mass exodus for the pubs and bars of the 'Hood ~ you'd have thought they'd have stuck around to see some proper football for once in their lives Now we have to suffer the 'Gers for a second day with an all night drinking session under their belts and an irrational hatred of The Arse (cos they're English) to stoke them. Let's only hope and pray they don't go and get robbed with a last minute penalty today or there probably won't be a shop window left around here come Monday......................... Well they got to see some proper football alright. Anyone who saw the way Rangers were swept aside by the Gooners within the first ten minutes (and eventually beaten 3-0 with ease) would appreciate the huge gap between Scottish Premier and English Premier football. That's for those who could stay awake though for the sight of Rangers fans fast asleep in their seats BEFORE half time in a drink induced slumber was a reminder of the old Wembley "Scottish Invasions" when all the noise and colour of pre-match used to drain away like turds down the bog once the game settled down and the realisation of just how crap their heroes were once exposed to genuine top class opposition rather than the likes of Partick Thistle and the demands placed on the body of so much alcohol intake kicked in. So they'll struggle back home after stocking up once more with shocking amounts of the tinned stuff before they get on the trains at Kings Cross and Euston and arrive home this morning scratching their heads, struggling in vain to remember what went on and within two days begin once more living under the delusion that "They Are The People" ::)and wondering how on earth they are going to pay the Visa bill for their trip down south! ;D When ever I see them I cannot help but recall that sight of so many Sweaties futily baring their arses to the English in Brave Heart whilst the hated Sassenachs contented themselves with imposing the rights of Prima Nostra on their women!
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Post by stuartB on Aug 16, 2009 21:02:26 GMT
I have a feeling that this will all end in tears. ask Leeds fans about Risdale and Cardiff should be worried.
It's amazing how we attach hero status to people who allegedly rescue our clubs but are ripping us off behind the scenes. Sam Haman was given hero status for rescuing Cardiff but he has had his money back with interest. the stadium has not been named yet but when it is, it will be Mr Haman benefiting not Cardiff, as he kept the naming rights when he sold the club.
I hope Cardiff fans enjoy this while they can because, mark my words, this will go horribly wrong in a big way!
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