Post by Dave on Aug 28, 2009 19:52:27 GMT
Sorry this is a bit late going up, Jamie has his big concert this weekend and came around to borrow a few bits and pieces (mic’s etc) and found Dave R in one of his best talking moods.
Thank heavens for three days off work, the only problem is it will be Tuesday morning before I know it and find myself back at work, left wondering how the time went so fast. Does it seem the same for you as it does for me as you get older? You know the egg timer effect, at the start it goes so slow, only when half has gone into the bottom it seems to speed up. I do believe that’s how my life feels these days, as If I’m well past the half way stage and time is going twice as fast, when really I would prefer it to slow down.
The end of my working week finished with a drama as did the very start of it, on Monday morning I opened up the gates at 5.40am and thought when I get inside our unit, I will leave a note to bollock the boss for leaving all the lights on. It was only when I was about to open the door, I looked up and saw the upstairs window was smashed.
I will admit I was a bit scared to go in and check our unit, but took a deep breath and went in, then I was soon on the phone to my fast asleep and still snoring in bed boss. “Please don’t tell me you are not coming to work” he said, I replied “no I’m phoning to tell you that you are as we have been burgled.”
As it was we got lucky in a way, seems they had done another company big time nearby and we can only think they got disturbed, as we only lost a fair bit of cash and two laptops, it could have been so much worse.
I did feel a bit uneasy in the unit the next morning, just had that feeling someone was there with me, but as the week went on that feeling disappeared. Then to finish the week off as I got back to Penn Inn lights on the A380, they changed to red. Well there is a traffic light camera on those lights and I have seen it go off many times.
I decided I was not going to take the chance and pulled up on the line, the fool behind me thought as I was a while van driver I would jump the lights and he was going to do the same. Only I didn’t and he hit crashed into the back of the van. Not too much damage done, but I really could have done without it happening.
The forum has been a joy this week, I do love Barton’s new posts about past managers, his posts are always a joy to read, only the school teacher comes out in him and he just has to set us some homework ;D. Jon and ohtobe have added some great posts on those threads.
Great to see westhamsally posting and she has made some excellent points, aussie has just been aussie, but we love him for it and would never want to lose him on the forum. So as always many thanks to everyone for your posts this week, keep them coming as it may be one of yours that hits the TUFC match day programme.
I know this week’s winner has mixed views about the best poster award, but I take the view if you have made a great post, or a series of posts that have been a good read, then if the members feel you deserve to win the award, then you should.
I’m really pleased this week as this weeks winner is a top forum poster and one who does think a great deal about the TFF, he has played such a big part from day one and I know that he and I will work together, to keep making the forum the place you love to come and spend some time in. He is also a really top man to talk too and is so different than some may have think he is in real life, but he still can be a rascal at times, but that is what makes him the interesting man he is.
This week’s winner is Merse well done and fully deserved.
A few of the posts merse made this week
Post one
Having visited Spotland on many occasions spread over forty odd years, I can assure you that the current day Rochdale FC is far and away an improvement from the raggy arsed little club set amongst the cobbles and chimney pots of a nineteen sixties Lancashire cotton town .
In those days the ground was a hovel that almost threatened to fall down if a door was slammed and the floodlights that hung between sets of parrallel telegraph poles in the corners were amongst the dimmest purveyors of illumination one could imagine.
However, the view of the nearby moors from the front seats of the old Main Stand were excellent should the football prove unwatchable and the legendary "Rochdale Hospitality and Friendliness" was there as always.
There is a famed corner of the ground with it's stone pediment and brick wall set beside the then cobbles of Willbutts Lane that is forever preserved for posterity in a legendary TV advert for Hovis Brown Bread...................remember it?
The stadium these days is a fine example of sensible modernisation and shows just what could have been done at Plainmoor with a little more common sense and football mentality i.e. proper sized stands rather than that silly little Popside we ended up with.
Rochdale and Torquay United are typical of those little clubs who will forever be limited to the corridor between Football League 1 and the BSP because of their limited potential for crowd support, just like Bury, Yeovil, Hereford, Stevenage, Barnet, Mansfield, Macclesfield etc ~ you know the size of club. Ones where to elevate themsleves as high as League 1 is all that can reasonably be expected of them but to dally in The Championship (as Crewe Alexandra did for several years) would be a financially stress filled adventure and truly punching above their weight!
Then there is the higher level of club, such as Scunthorpe, Doncaster, Bristol Rovers, Brighton and Swindon who should quite easily make their "ceiling" The Championship, but not in the non achieving way that do nothing clubs the size of Argyle, Bristol City, Cardiff, and Blackpool do ~ these clubs should be (but don't appear to be) striving for The Premiership in the way that the Sheffield Wednesdays and the Newcastles are; the Nottingham Forests and the Leeds Uniteds.
Provincial clubs like ourselves and Rochdale bring a great deal of pleasure to their few but no less devoted supporters. They would love to attract more but just can't and have to settle for a time honoured existence of striving to improve the lot (and therefore maintain their loyalty) of the fans they do have through steadily adding to and improving on the match day experience......................and is that really a bad thing? Should we cease to be happy following our football club just because they have reached their "Glass Ceiling"? Should we abandon them as "unambitious" or even a "waste of space"? I think not, but obviously many in the catchment of these little clubs do and probably base their "wisdom" on a perspective gained from TV watching the top levels of the game and kit their kids out accordingly in the shirts of Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and co...............never suggesting they try their local club nor encouraging them to get along and watch some real football instead of staying at home and playing with their Nintendos.
I think Dave could provide a perfect example of that conundrum, for didn't he highlight the extreme difference between his day long adventure at the Chesterfield game and his "in and out" one of the Barnet fixture? That's the secret of getting the most out of your football club.................fully embrace the social aspect of it and if you want to take it further; embrace the community aspect of the Supporters' Trust and get involved in their provision of improved comfort and facility for thjose less fortunate than oneself
Post two
Putting two and two together and not being any good at "sums" I would say this.....................
Having made such an issue over Norwich City and their "approach" for Paul Lambert, Col U need to be seen to be "whiter than white" and therefore ensure that any contracted managers they are interested in talking to, apply themselves before any "official" talks are held................that would apply to Bucks as well as any other working manager.
In their own interests, OUR club have been trying to extend the manager's contractual period (and therefore protect their "investment" in him) so that they can obtain the maximum they can should another club wish to offer him their post and need to pay compensation for him.
Only a fool would imagine any manager worth his salt and who is good at his profession would be forever satisfied to manage at OUR level and at a club of OUR limited potential.
In my opinion, Colchester United don't exactly represent the sort of move up the ladder I would personally be looking for if I was in Paul Buckle's shoes, mention a Plymouth Argyle or a Brighton & Hove Albion mind you, and you're nearer the mark.
As I've said many times, football management is very like surfing ~ you have to know when to get off the wave you are on and which next wave to catch.........................it's a tricky business; but one thing's for sure, once you've taken a job as far as you feel you can it's time to bale out or you regress with the club you are at. Only Paul would know if that is how he feels, and (in my opinion) he would be a fool to dismiss any interest in his services out of hand. It doesn't mean he has to accept any offer that comes along, and it doesn't always follow either that the best offers and future employment prospects always come from the biggest or highest placed clubs.
But you can only pull so many rabbits out of the hat, and maybe the hat is emptier than the general public realise.
The Chairman and directors will know the score on that one and they would be fools not to have some idea of just who they would prefer to appoint as their "next manager" should the present one express a desire to leave....................in my opinion; they should always be armed with that knowledge.
That's not saying I either want to see Paul move on, or I believe he will; but it would be a foolish club that prevented a manager from leaving through contractual matters if he had expressed a desire to leave.
Thank heavens for three days off work, the only problem is it will be Tuesday morning before I know it and find myself back at work, left wondering how the time went so fast. Does it seem the same for you as it does for me as you get older? You know the egg timer effect, at the start it goes so slow, only when half has gone into the bottom it seems to speed up. I do believe that’s how my life feels these days, as If I’m well past the half way stage and time is going twice as fast, when really I would prefer it to slow down.
The end of my working week finished with a drama as did the very start of it, on Monday morning I opened up the gates at 5.40am and thought when I get inside our unit, I will leave a note to bollock the boss for leaving all the lights on. It was only when I was about to open the door, I looked up and saw the upstairs window was smashed.
I will admit I was a bit scared to go in and check our unit, but took a deep breath and went in, then I was soon on the phone to my fast asleep and still snoring in bed boss. “Please don’t tell me you are not coming to work” he said, I replied “no I’m phoning to tell you that you are as we have been burgled.”
As it was we got lucky in a way, seems they had done another company big time nearby and we can only think they got disturbed, as we only lost a fair bit of cash and two laptops, it could have been so much worse.
I did feel a bit uneasy in the unit the next morning, just had that feeling someone was there with me, but as the week went on that feeling disappeared. Then to finish the week off as I got back to Penn Inn lights on the A380, they changed to red. Well there is a traffic light camera on those lights and I have seen it go off many times.
I decided I was not going to take the chance and pulled up on the line, the fool behind me thought as I was a while van driver I would jump the lights and he was going to do the same. Only I didn’t and he hit crashed into the back of the van. Not too much damage done, but I really could have done without it happening.
The forum has been a joy this week, I do love Barton’s new posts about past managers, his posts are always a joy to read, only the school teacher comes out in him and he just has to set us some homework ;D. Jon and ohtobe have added some great posts on those threads.
Great to see westhamsally posting and she has made some excellent points, aussie has just been aussie, but we love him for it and would never want to lose him on the forum. So as always many thanks to everyone for your posts this week, keep them coming as it may be one of yours that hits the TUFC match day programme.
I know this week’s winner has mixed views about the best poster award, but I take the view if you have made a great post, or a series of posts that have been a good read, then if the members feel you deserve to win the award, then you should.
I’m really pleased this week as this weeks winner is a top forum poster and one who does think a great deal about the TFF, he has played such a big part from day one and I know that he and I will work together, to keep making the forum the place you love to come and spend some time in. He is also a really top man to talk too and is so different than some may have think he is in real life, but he still can be a rascal at times, but that is what makes him the interesting man he is.
This week’s winner is Merse well done and fully deserved.
A few of the posts merse made this week
Post one
Having visited Spotland on many occasions spread over forty odd years, I can assure you that the current day Rochdale FC is far and away an improvement from the raggy arsed little club set amongst the cobbles and chimney pots of a nineteen sixties Lancashire cotton town .
In those days the ground was a hovel that almost threatened to fall down if a door was slammed and the floodlights that hung between sets of parrallel telegraph poles in the corners were amongst the dimmest purveyors of illumination one could imagine.
However, the view of the nearby moors from the front seats of the old Main Stand were excellent should the football prove unwatchable and the legendary "Rochdale Hospitality and Friendliness" was there as always.
There is a famed corner of the ground with it's stone pediment and brick wall set beside the then cobbles of Willbutts Lane that is forever preserved for posterity in a legendary TV advert for Hovis Brown Bread...................remember it?
The stadium these days is a fine example of sensible modernisation and shows just what could have been done at Plainmoor with a little more common sense and football mentality i.e. proper sized stands rather than that silly little Popside we ended up with.
Rochdale and Torquay United are typical of those little clubs who will forever be limited to the corridor between Football League 1 and the BSP because of their limited potential for crowd support, just like Bury, Yeovil, Hereford, Stevenage, Barnet, Mansfield, Macclesfield etc ~ you know the size of club. Ones where to elevate themsleves as high as League 1 is all that can reasonably be expected of them but to dally in The Championship (as Crewe Alexandra did for several years) would be a financially stress filled adventure and truly punching above their weight!
Then there is the higher level of club, such as Scunthorpe, Doncaster, Bristol Rovers, Brighton and Swindon who should quite easily make their "ceiling" The Championship, but not in the non achieving way that do nothing clubs the size of Argyle, Bristol City, Cardiff, and Blackpool do ~ these clubs should be (but don't appear to be) striving for The Premiership in the way that the Sheffield Wednesdays and the Newcastles are; the Nottingham Forests and the Leeds Uniteds.
Provincial clubs like ourselves and Rochdale bring a great deal of pleasure to their few but no less devoted supporters. They would love to attract more but just can't and have to settle for a time honoured existence of striving to improve the lot (and therefore maintain their loyalty) of the fans they do have through steadily adding to and improving on the match day experience......................and is that really a bad thing? Should we cease to be happy following our football club just because they have reached their "Glass Ceiling"? Should we abandon them as "unambitious" or even a "waste of space"? I think not, but obviously many in the catchment of these little clubs do and probably base their "wisdom" on a perspective gained from TV watching the top levels of the game and kit their kids out accordingly in the shirts of Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and co...............never suggesting they try their local club nor encouraging them to get along and watch some real football instead of staying at home and playing with their Nintendos.
I think Dave could provide a perfect example of that conundrum, for didn't he highlight the extreme difference between his day long adventure at the Chesterfield game and his "in and out" one of the Barnet fixture? That's the secret of getting the most out of your football club.................fully embrace the social aspect of it and if you want to take it further; embrace the community aspect of the Supporters' Trust and get involved in their provision of improved comfort and facility for thjose less fortunate than oneself
Post two
Putting two and two together and not being any good at "sums" I would say this.....................
Having made such an issue over Norwich City and their "approach" for Paul Lambert, Col U need to be seen to be "whiter than white" and therefore ensure that any contracted managers they are interested in talking to, apply themselves before any "official" talks are held................that would apply to Bucks as well as any other working manager.
In their own interests, OUR club have been trying to extend the manager's contractual period (and therefore protect their "investment" in him) so that they can obtain the maximum they can should another club wish to offer him their post and need to pay compensation for him.
Only a fool would imagine any manager worth his salt and who is good at his profession would be forever satisfied to manage at OUR level and at a club of OUR limited potential.
In my opinion, Colchester United don't exactly represent the sort of move up the ladder I would personally be looking for if I was in Paul Buckle's shoes, mention a Plymouth Argyle or a Brighton & Hove Albion mind you, and you're nearer the mark.
As I've said many times, football management is very like surfing ~ you have to know when to get off the wave you are on and which next wave to catch.........................it's a tricky business; but one thing's for sure, once you've taken a job as far as you feel you can it's time to bale out or you regress with the club you are at. Only Paul would know if that is how he feels, and (in my opinion) he would be a fool to dismiss any interest in his services out of hand. It doesn't mean he has to accept any offer that comes along, and it doesn't always follow either that the best offers and future employment prospects always come from the biggest or highest placed clubs.
But you can only pull so many rabbits out of the hat, and maybe the hat is emptier than the general public realise.
The Chairman and directors will know the score on that one and they would be fools not to have some idea of just who they would prefer to appoint as their "next manager" should the present one express a desire to leave....................in my opinion; they should always be armed with that knowledge.
That's not saying I either want to see Paul move on, or I believe he will; but it would be a foolish club that prevented a manager from leaving through contractual matters if he had expressed a desire to leave.
Thanks for the recognition.....................actually I enjoyed reading those two posts again myself