Dave
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Post by Dave on Feb 21, 2010 9:12:19 GMT
A real six pointer and a game we really do need to win as defeat will see Cheltenham five points clear of us and with a game in hand. Our recent history playing Cheltenham would suggest we should win this game but we really are going to have to be at our very best if we are going to take all three points.
Its hard to know just what team Bucks will put out and getting the selection and tactics right has to be spot on as the result of this game could see fans feeling a bit happier, or calling for the managers head.
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Feb 21, 2010 10:11:26 GMT
It is an absolutely massive game for both clubs and I'm sure that they'll both be feeling the pressure over it. I wouldn't read too much into our recent form against Cheltenham - but we are certainly very capable of beating them.
I don't know whether he'll go for just Barnes up-front with Zebs out-wide and Benyon on the bench, or whether he'll start with two up-front. We've really hit them hard straight from the kick-off in the 3 wins against them so far this season - but those other matches didn't have the same significance as this one.
To get the 2nd league away win of the season on Tuesday will do a huge amount for team morale and confidence - although I haven't really seen that lacking too much recently.
All we can really do as supporters is turn-up and get right behind the team until the final whistle. To put any pressure on the team or manager would be totally counter-productive.
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Post by Rob on Feb 21, 2010 11:49:12 GMT
All we can really do as supporters is turn-up and get right behind the team until the final whistle. To put any pressure on the team or manager would be totally counter-productive. I don't think we need to worry too much about supporter negativity on the road too much effecting the players. Unlike on the Popside, they'll be drowned out by very positive and vocal support at Cheltenham, just as at the JPT fixture. Unlike the previous fixtures I doubt this will be anything but a cagey affair owing to the pressure you rightly highlight. I do hope as many as possible take advantage of the offer by TUFC. Clearly the Manager and players appreciate the positive support on the road. Lets turn up in droves and make it, as they like to say at Aldershot(went and saw them against Notts County partly in the hope of a glimpse of Akinbiyi) a Tour of Duty. |
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Post by chelstongull on Feb 21, 2010 13:44:18 GMT
This is without stating the obvious a must must must win game. Lose this one and we'd be 5 points behind.
Difficult to know what team Bucks will pick, assuming that Wayno is still out
Bevan
Smith ** Charnock ** Ellis ** Nico
Macklin ** Wroe ** Mansell ** ??
Zebs ** Barnes
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Will he go for 4 - 4 - 1 - 1?
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Post by wrangatongulls on Feb 21, 2010 13:49:58 GMT
Perhaps a reletively unchanged side might do the trick, reading your reports on fridays game it seemed that the team improved through the game, if that was the case a bit of consistency might be enough to build a fighting spirit within the team, and dispite everything they only conceeded one goal against rotherham
Worth noting on the football league show apart from benyon(scorer) only mark ellis was picked out for mention in dispaches hmm hears hoping for a massive win at cheltenham (1-0) come on you yellows
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Post by petef on Feb 21, 2010 14:44:59 GMT
This is without stating the obvious a must must must win game. Lose this one and we'd be 5 points behind. Difficult to know what team Bucks will pick, assuming that Wayno is still out Bevan Smith ** Charnock ** Ellis ** Nico Macklin ** Wroe ** Mansell ** ?? Zebs ** Barnes or Will he go for 4 - 4 - 1 - 1? You've lost me there Chelston .  No Pickler after some MOM performances and Nico recalled, yeah why not? Though I don't think so somehow. Tough one to call and another draw would be favourite. Surely we cant beat them four times in one season but then again we will break our winning duck sooner or later. Footbal is little different to any other sport for betting and probability for instance have Cheltenaham won two in succession? Im quite glad they won yesterday as I reckon it increases our chances of getting a result. And if I were a betting man I would be putting my win stake on us and Grimsby over the next few weeks or until either win a match and covering each preceding bet. Good funif your brave enough.  |
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Post by chelstongull on Feb 21, 2010 14:58:05 GMT
Petef - sorry, meant Branston rather than Charnock!
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Post by Swanny on Feb 21, 2010 20:34:37 GMT
This is without stating the obvious a must must must win game. Lose this one and we'd be 5 points behind. Difficult to know what team Bucks will pick, assuming that Wayno is still out Bevan Smith ** Charnock ** Ellis ** Nico Macklin ** Wroe ** Mansell ** ?? Zebs ** Barnes or Will he go for 4 - 4 - 1 - 1? Perhaps your ?? should be Danny Stevens as he ripped Cheltenham apart in the JPT trophy earlier in the season, and he would be fresh and raring to go. From what I've seen of Cheltenham twice at Plainmoor this season they don't like pacy and tricky wingers running at them. I'd also love to see Nico return but I fear even though he's still at our club he is Paul Buckle's current forgotton man, like others have experienced in his tenure. Ofcourse we don't know what goes behind the scenes but to us supporters it seems very harsh on Nicholson. I think it is ironic that our goal against Rotherham was from our tried and trusted long throw and flick on routine (this time from Robertson). It still shows me this is a very useful weapon and Nicholson, as well as his deliveries with his foot, can offer this option better than anyone. Also Ellis yet again showed what a useful attacking option he can be as well as being a dominant defender. But at the end of the day it's Buckle who decides and let's just hope he gets it right in the next few week. P.S. There has been no official word on Jake Thomson, I wonder what is going on ? |
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Feb 21, 2010 21:22:18 GMT
I think that on the .com post match comments from Bucks it seems he wants to strengthen in that area of the pitch. Even from those comments alone (let alone being told in the midweek that Thomson had gone back - although until anything official is announced then I remain unsure) I would take it that Thomson is not in the first team picture at the very moment.
Macklin is supposedly a prospect according to a Swindon fans' website - if he could just give us a couple of months of service on the right until Wayno is back in the same way Thomson did when he arrived then we'd be improving the team.
Bucks reitterates that we do need to strengthen the team (it would at least help to have a stronger team going to the remainder of the season as we did going into January). I would be surprised if we do add another striker before Tuesday - or anyone at all. To add another player into the squad that has only met his teammates for a few hours beforehand for the third match in a row surely can't be doing our chances any favours.
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Post by aussie on Feb 22, 2010 10:17:17 GMT
I think that on the .com post match comments from Bucks it seems he wants to strengthen in that area of the pitch. Even from those comments alone (let alone being told in the midweek that Thomson had gone back - although until anything official is announced then I remain unsure) I would take it that Thomson is not in the first team picture at the very moment. Macklin is supposedly a prospect according to a Swindon fans' website - if he could just give us a couple of months of service on the right until Wayno is back in the same way Thomson did when he arrived then we'd be improving the team. Bucks reitterates that we do need to strengthen the team (it would at least help to have a stronger team going to the remainder of the season as we did going into January). I would be surprised if we do add another striker before Tuesday - or anyone at all. To add another player into the squad that has only met his teammates for a few hours beforehand for the third match in a row surely can't be doing our chances any favours. I think you`ll find that Bucks went for an older, bigger, stronger team line up against Rotherham away anyway so the younger ones wouldn`t have started! |
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Post by miac on Feb 22, 2010 11:46:54 GMT
Chelstongull - I take your point about Nico but I guess that Buckle is not going to play him. From the managers latest comments he sees Zebroski as playing out wide and I can understand that because he is a better player defensively than the rest of our wide men (Carlisle excluded).
It will be bad luck if Macklin is injured and cannot make it tomorrow night. I cannot see us going with just Barnes up front tomorrow night - after all we have scored nine goals against them in three games. I can see Benyon starting up front. He is the only forward who is scoring.
Surely Ellis will keep his place this time. Did well enough on Friday night and his power in the air will surely be needed to counter Alsopp.
I will go with this team
Beavon
Smith/Robbo- Ellis-Branston- RT/Smith
Macklin-Wroe-Mansell-Zebroski
Barnes-Benyon
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Post by chesneygull on Feb 22, 2010 13:20:06 GMT
Miac - I think your prediction will be pretty close to the mark. He might go 4-5-1 and therefore Thompson in for Benyon, keeping our "SuperSub" for 20/25 mins to go. You would think that he would want to keep things tight for the first part of the game....................
But, he might feel that having beaten them 3 times already this season, that attack is the best option.......................
We shall see.
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Feb 22, 2010 20:09:13 GMT
I don't think that you sound convinced on that, Aussie!
I don't believe every rumour I hear but I will be very surprised if Thomson is involved tomorrow - or ever again for us for that matter. I think it's just one of those things that have fizzled-out rather that ending-up in a "big bang" like Christian Hansen or Martin McNeil.
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Post by Rob on Feb 22, 2010 22:07:13 GMT
Thomson's name appears on .com match preview. Macklin passed fit. Total silence surrounding Thomson missing the last one both in the Herald article and on .com. I suspect ohtobe is correct and we won't be seeing Jake Thomson again.
Bevan
RB Robertson
Ellis
Branston(c)
LB Smith
Macklin
Wroe
Mansell
Stevens
Barnes
Zebroski
That would be my line up, having seen Stevens rip Cheltenham apart at their place already this season, and with Smith as defensive cover. However, the likelihood, given PB's comments, is that Zebroski will line up on the left wing. If that is so, do we add Benyon or Thompson? I've never been impressed with Robertson at right back, but I just feel it is inevitable he will be picked in that position, hence why I've put it. I'd rather see Smith and Rowe-Turner. If we're wasting Zebs on the wing (he was bloody good up front on his own with Benyon in the hole, up at Crewe), then Nicholson could go in there at left back. He won't and I'm starting to ramble.
I hope it doesn't snow tomorrow in that direction as I'm looking forward to this one and contributing to a positive vocal away support.
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Post by chrish on Feb 22, 2010 22:28:24 GMT
Thomson's name appears on .com match preview. Macklin passed fit. Total silence surrounding Thomson missing the last one both in the Herald article and on .com. I suspect ohtobe is correct and we won't be seeing Jake Thomson again. Bevan RB Robertson Ellis Branston(c) LB Smith Macklin Wroe Mansell Stevens Barnes Zebroski That would be my line up, having seen Stevens rip Cheltenham apart at their place already this season, and with Smith as defensive cover. However, the likelihood, given PB's comments, is that Zebroski will line up on the left wing. If that is so, do we add Benyon or Thompson? I've never been impressed with Robertson at right back, but I just feel it is inevitable he will be picked in that position, hence why I've put it. I'd rather see Smith and Rowe-Turner. If we're wasting Zebs on the wing (he was bloody good up front on his own with Benyon in the hole, up at Crewe), then Nicholson could go in there at left back. He won't and I'm starting to ramble. I hope it doesn't snow tomorrow in that direction as I'm looking forward to this one and contributing to a positive vocal away support. See you there Rob! |
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