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Post by Fonda on Jan 2, 2010 21:24:19 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]Shane, not on one performance[/glow]. He is light weight (which we all know) and to counter act that would need the speed of Thomson or Stevens (which he hasn't). Overall a bad day at the office. Fair enough Phil, cheers for clarifying. I disagree, but then you knew i would.
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Post by Dave on Jan 2, 2010 21:55:52 GMT
As for Tyrone (no doubt plenty will exress an opinion on him), he had a pretty poor game (first half especially). But there were large numbers on the pop today that couldn't criticise him quickly enough every time the ball went near him. If they thought were helping his performance by abusing him, they are perhaps a little more stupid than they sounded. I heard it suggested that 'he doesn't even want the ball' - is it any wonder? It was embarrasing at times.I enjoyed being in our box today and while I have never liked watching a game from behind a goal, I for one have grown very fed up with what not only gets shouted out by some of the popside fans, but what they sing as well. Trouble was today they did not sing very often, but when they did start a yellow army chant, the whole of the family stand joined in. Its clear a family stand is what it says it is and there are chants they won't join in with and for good reason. Its a simple message, it we want a better atmosphere at Plainmoor, then those who start songs would be far better of starting ones others in the ground would be happy to join in with. I'm getting to the point where I'm considering giving up standing where I have for over 40 years, a shame but the popside has gone down hill in my view from the days it had good singers and good songs to sing.
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Post by chelstongull on Jan 2, 2010 22:07:32 GMT
Come and join us Dave - we'd be more than happy to have you in our club - the craic is great.
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Post by AR10 on Jan 2, 2010 22:12:15 GMT
Since writing this report I have received a phone call about the problems later after the game had finished. I feel I can’t at this stage go into all that has been told to me, but I will say a TUFC fan is alleged to have shouted out very racist remarks to the Brighton players who had came back onto the pitch to warm down. From what I saw the Brighton players were trying to get to this fan and the stewards had to work hard to prevent them from doing so. I would expect the players would have reported this and our club may well get into trouble over it. All very sad and on a day we hoped to get a good pay day, we could be getting a big fine instead. I trust the club will issue a lifetime ban for home & away games to those found guilty of racism. Ones colour should never be bought into an argument or banter. A sad day for TUFC if this is true.
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Post by Dave on Jan 2, 2010 22:12:33 GMT
Come and join us Dave - we'd be more than happy to have you in our club - the craic is great. But you are on the popside ;D I may well just move further up your way and see what its like up there as I know you would all miss your little chats with me otherwise
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Post by chelstongull on Jan 2, 2010 22:18:02 GMT
The trouble is we stand near the top!
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Post by Dave on Jan 2, 2010 22:18:48 GMT
I trust the club will issue a lifetime ban for home & away games to those found guilty of racism. Ones colour should never be bought into an argument or banter. A sad day for TUFC if this is true. I am aware who the fan is and what is alleged he said, while I trust fully the person who heard what was said, its not right I should make any judgment unless I heard from the fan his views and what he states he said.
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Post by Dave on Jan 2, 2010 22:22:00 GMT
The trouble is we stand near the top! Well thats alright as I can get you to give me a piggyback so that I can still watch the game and not some mans bold spot.
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Post by jerry on Jan 2, 2010 22:23:09 GMT
I trust the club will issue a lifetime ban for home & away games to those found guilty of racism. Ones colour should never be bought into an argument or banter. A sad day for TUFC if this is true. Shame something wasn't done about the constant, cringeworthy homophobic chants during the second half! How anyone can think it's funny to sing about someone having HIV is beyond me! Absolute morons!
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Post by Dave on Jan 2, 2010 22:29:37 GMT
I trust the club will issue a lifetime ban for home & away games to those found guilty of racism. Ones colour should never be bought into an argument or banter. A sad day for TUFC if this is true. Shame something wasn't done about the constant, cringeworthy homophobic chants during the second half! How anyone can think it's funny to sing about someone having HIV is beyond me! Absolute morons! Being at the far end almost of the family stand, I did not hear these chants Jerry, but it is time for our club to try and rid our ground of some of the mindless and as you say cringeworthy chants being sung. Steve posted on here about how the club wanted to be more family friendly and welcoming, well it thats what it wants it needs to ensure our stewards start taking stronger action, after first giving out the correct warnings. I have said before, I for one do not want to see fans being removed from our ground, but it that is what it will take to get the message fully understood, then so be it.
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Post by Rob on Jan 2, 2010 22:43:10 GMT
You could tell Smith was in a bit of pain. Poor bugger screamed out when taking a throw. That nobody else took it really shows poor communication, probably on his part. My guess is that he's got a dislocated shoulder. Nothing worse.
There were a few silly shouts at Thompson, but they didn't happen until after loud collective sighs, which I imagine were more offputting to the player. Worst display I've seen in a yellow shirt for many a year, mind you.
Both teams were rubbish today. Brighton, with the exception of Dickinson, marginally less so.
((Oops. Just read page 8. On the "trouble", I could tell that Brighton player would goad someone as I was on my way out, though by the looks of it, it was after most had left, myself included. He was determined to rub salt in the wound and I would hope someone from the Brighton staff might have a word with him. He didn't deserve racist abuse. Nobody should have to face that. But he could do with a slap.))
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Post by Fonda on Jan 2, 2010 23:39:20 GMT
Shame something wasn't done about the constant, cringeworthy homophobic chants during the second half! How anyone can think it's funny to sing about someone having HIV is beyond me! Absolute morons! Quite agree Jerry. Some of the chants/comments eminating from the 'away' end of the pop every week are cringeworthy. It seems much of the humour has been lost and it's all about abuse these days.
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Post by lambethgull on Jan 3, 2010 1:32:12 GMT
Not that long back in after a long day. Anxieties over whether the game was going to be on or not meant that our lunchtime meal was postponed until after the match, and whilst a fine South Devon hostelry made for a more pleasant environment in which to mull over today’s game than a depressing motorway services, it wasn't ideal preparation for a drive back through heavy snow showers on the M4. Luckily for me, I wasn’t driving ;D The ground staff did very well to get today's game on. The turf and soil in Cary Park was frozen solid, so it was a testament to their work and preparations that the game was given the go ahead by the ref. Much of my observations have already been mentioned above, but a few things stood out for me. I thought Ellis and Charnock did very well today. Both put in some fierce challenges, and Ellis was, as he often is, almost totally commanding in the air, if occasionally more suspect in his overall distribution. Although our wingers were the main outlets today (Thomson especially), neither made any real impact, and it quickly became apparent why Southampton feel he has much to improve upon if he is to progress with his career at St Marys. Hargreaves made some useful challenges – and fouls – but seemed a little off the pace at times. Neither Rendell or Benyon ever looked like scoring, and though it could be argued that Benyon brought more to the table, I felt the unavailable strikeforce of Rendell and Zebroski would have produced more. Adam Smith put in a good shift, and his willingness to play on after sustaining his injury was impressive, if, as it may transpire, a little foolhardy. Thompson, as much has already been made of, had an absolute shocker, but it was the reaction of the crowd to his performance that more shocking. Unfortunately, it cannot be said that it was an 'idiot minority' who were dishing out the abuse. The fact that the ironic cheer which greeted his fist accurate pass of the afternoon (albeit after 55 minutes) was the loudest collective noise made by the Popular Side all afternoon says more about the nature of the 'support' at Plainmoor than it does about the merits of Tyrone Thompson. Add that to the idiot comments, reluctance to greet the vocal and good natured banter from the Brighton fans with anything even resembling a passionate or witty response, the homophobic and racist abuse mentioned above and it all adds up to a pretty unseemly and depressing state of affairs. It pains me to say it, but away games are so much more enjoyable. Perhaps the minority (though quite a significant minority) who can make the Popular Side such a depressing place to be become a smaller minority at away fixtures Like Swangull, I will be sitting in the Family Stand during my next visit.
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Post by seagullone on Jan 3, 2010 10:05:22 GMT
Well it seems that one goal was always going to win this less than exciting encounter and it seems our team did just about enough to edge the match.
Homophobic chants: We get them at every match, home and away.
Racism: Obviously this has no place in society.
Every club in the land has a minority of idiots, but luckily they will always stay a minority.
In leaving, best of luck in your endeavours to climb the table.
We will mirror your efforts in our own battle in League One!
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Post by Dave on Jan 3, 2010 10:15:39 GMT
We wish your club good luck as well seagullone and on the day your team won and were the better team and we can't have any complaints with the result. Good luck in the next round, hope you get that big draw we would have loved to have had.
All the best Dave
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