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Post by longeatongull on Sept 13, 2009 7:46:10 GMT
Chris a skip has more pace than Sills. His one trick ain't good enough at this level. I find it interesting that the penny still hasn't dropped for many of the fluffy bunnies on here. How long will you continue to absolve the manager of responsibilty? Now, i'm NOT advocating sacking him, before you start. However his deficiences are starting to become obvious to even the thickest rosie. Or maybe not. Wont disagree too much DTG with your comments but still feel we "stick together through thick and thin". Two comments to make.....we must realise we have played a few top half sides recently so hopefully results will improve. Also I dont normally read The Sun--but yesterday read the Chris Kamara column. I realise CK is not the fountain of knowledge but very interesting article all about PB and "the future". Also praising CL for getting him to put pen to paper after recent interest from Colchester. One paragraph just for you ......." A man who still at the tender age of 38 is carving out a reputation as one of the games up and coming bosses". I dont think Kamara is king of the pen but good article and nice to see "us" in the press. |
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Post by longeatongull on Sept 13, 2009 7:49:36 GMT
I find it interesting that the penny still hasn't dropped for many of the fluffy bunnies on here. Oh forgot.....come on DTG.....who you talking about??? I thought fluffy bunnies was a pudding where you live ;D ;D
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Post by davethegull on Sept 13, 2009 8:15:16 GMT
;D
Longie i wouldn't take anything Kamara says. He was the one handed self lover (can't wait for the spellchecker to do that one!)summariser at Kiddies 1st game in the football league when they played us. He totally rubbished us and it was the most one sided piece of tripe i've ever had the misfortune to see!
Fluffy Bunnies mate........shhh.....it's a gogo bar in patong.
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Post by aussie on Sept 13, 2009 8:21:38 GMT
Chris a skip has more pace than Sills. His one trick ain't good enough at this level. I find it interesting that the penny still hasn't dropped for many of the fluffy bunnies on here. How long will you continue to absolve the manager of responsibilty? Now, i'm NOT advocating sacking him, before you start. However his deficiences are starting to become obvious to even the thickest rosie. Or maybe not. I agree about Sills and the manager does have to stand up and take it on the chin as he wanted to give the promotion squad a chance in league two, I think PB will be sat at home this morning working out how best to break some bad news too some of our players, one being his favourite last season, they haven`t stepped up to the plate well enough so they must be replaced or will he just tell them they`ve got one more game to prove their worth and if they fail their out the door! I`ve never been refered to as a Bunny before, not sure if I`m quite fluffy enough! |
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Post by chelstongull on Sept 13, 2009 8:39:15 GMT
Having just had a nice boiled egg with my morning cuppa, I thought I would read the local (Janner) Sunday paper.
Haven't got past the back page yet, but Buck's comment is
"At the moment we are having a tough time. It certainly isn't a lack of effort from the players - you can see that. There is a lot of hard work to be done..."
Anyone at the game can confirm that?
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Post by patrickm on Sept 13, 2009 8:46:24 GMT
Jesus,
Are people (Merse) still blaming this performance and the general ability of the team to perform on Benyon and Stevens...still?
How about the much lauded Wroe? Is he actually playing? Can be arsed? Can he learn that he needs to be quicker when he receives the ball and that he doesn't have the time to take an extra touch.. Does he expect to get his big money move putting in anonymous, lacklustre displays week after week?
Benyon is one of the few positives this season and Stevens can deliver meaningful crosses and create goals against League opposition..
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Post by merse on Sept 13, 2009 9:15:43 GMT
Benyon is one of the few positives this season and Stevens can deliver meaningful crosses and create goals against League opposition..  Granted, but if they can't hold the ball up front and it is comng back quicker than in a game of ping pong in away games, then this very basic tenet of the game is missing from the team effort and the season will be an up hill struggle. ALL players who play up front need this very basic string to their bow otherwise their time in the game is limited and they will never progress as individuals. Watch players at the very highest levels of football and this is an obvious feature......................endless hours on the training ground and in the conditioning gym attaining the nous to use one's body as a shield, when to turn one's shoulder against an opponent and aquiring the necessary upper body strength, not only developes one's own game but makes the job of those playing behind you so much easier. It's not a criticism I make of our young forwards, it's an observation made in a constructive manner. If you want to address your remarks to Jesus by the way, I believe his office is open this morning!  |
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Post by okeygull on Sept 13, 2009 9:47:44 GMT
Patrick , I totally agree with your comments about wroe. I know we are playing against higher level opponents but Wroe is not influencing games like he did last year. Everytime I have seen him play he just does'nt look happy . Is that frustration ?
We have played a number of the stronger sides in this division and obviously Grimsby home next week is a game where we should be looking to take the full 3 points. Hopefully Mansell will be back and we can go into a game with Robertson back in centre defence.
Theres a lot of work and difficult conversations for buckle to have with various members of the team. However, Im still viewing the glass as half full. A win next week would do no harm to confidence of the side.
Based on what we have all seen so far this year who would people prefer to start with up front next Saturday ?
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Post by merse on Sept 13, 2009 12:12:07 GMT
Having now had the opportunity to view the TV footage of the goals, I would add this observation: Goal1: Evidence indeed of Wroe strolling back at his own pace..................absolutely not acceptable and I don't think Poke would be too pleased with the way he dealt with the initial shot either. Goal 2: The value of one big lump who can go up and beat off two opponents to send a back header into acres of space allowed once again by the same failing as the first goal. If Hargreaves wants a free kick for slipping over, well so be it but I think in his heart of hearts he knows he needs to be looking at his studding rather than tryiong to con the ref. Goal 3 (ours): That it was scored in time added on tells it's own story. 
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Post by merse on Sept 13, 2009 12:26:17 GMT
Jesus, Are people (Merse) still blaming this performance and the general ability of the team to perform on Benyon and Stevens... still? Patrick, can you kindly find and quote just exactly where and when I "blamed the general ability of the team to perform on Benyon and Stevens" because I sure as hell can't find it. Is it a case of you carelessly reading something and then applying your own "this is what I thought he said" aspect to it or am I missing something here? I humbly suggest you (or at least appear to have) carefully read and digest a whole thread for what really has been posted before jumping in and "re-writing history" as one respected contributor is so often and so fond of accusing me of doing! |
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Post by phipsy on Sept 13, 2009 18:24:31 GMT
one of the competitions at school level in the fifties was the webber shield for under 13 s.
i played at plainmoor on a filthy may night in1957 against furzeham school of brixham.
i was a year younger than my teamates with the exception of jim blythe, who was the son of a well known hypnotist, henry blythe.
the outstanding player on the night was a gerry howshall from brixham.
I was later to play with gerry for the torbay schools representative team
gerry wasn/t big , quite small in fact but played like billy bremner.
he went on to play for w.b.a.
I caught up with him at stamford bridge in the 64/65 season and i recall he scored a blinder from 25 yards.
he later was transferred for good money and starred for norwich but crulely his career ended prematurley with injury.
i had a long playing career in amateur soccer with the highlight being one appearance for torquay united reserves.
of all the players who i had played with and against , gerry howshall was by far the best.
does anyone old nough on this site remember him?
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Post by merse on Sept 13, 2009 19:17:22 GMT
....................of all the players who i had played with and against , gerry howshall was by far the best. does anyone old nough on this site remember him? I remember seeing Gerry Howshall play for Newton Spurs when I was a kid and when I later played for the club myself, manager Bill Anderson would always refer to him as the perfect role model of one who "made it" even though he wasn't the most skilled or talented. As I understood it, Gerry had worked so hard to build up his muscular frame to compensate his lack of stature that he became "muscle bound" at an early age and had to prematurely retire from the game due to recurring thigh muscle rupturing. He in fact joined Everton from school and worked under the legendary Harry Catterick without ever making First Team level. Then he moved to West Brom and later Norwich City. Both clubs where he was a very effective midfield player indeed. I've just done a little bit of research and the last I can find of him is that he has been the Head Greenkeeper at Thornbury Golf Club in Gloucestershire (just North of Bristol), although as he must be 65 by now he's possibly retired. |
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Post by petef on Sept 13, 2009 20:00:59 GMT
Four defaets in a row and the knives are starting to appear though for me it was no more than I expected from a squad that often struggled last season and in the end rode the wave to sneak promotion. The start to our promotion season was very similar though I would say that although comparibly, performances and effort have been cranked up it still isnt good enough at this higher level. A jammy win last season against a poor Northwich side kicked started our season and we didnt look back but unfortunately easy pickings and whipping boys are not very abundent in the football league and all of a sudden individual weaknesses are being cruelly exposed. It will take time to get it right and PB has done the right thing in giving everyone a chance to stake thier claim he also has to make changes and maintain a good squad spirit, something that played a major part to our Wembley success, not an easy task as a few will inevitably get their noses put out of joint. Bucks has proved that he can adjust so I trust him to do it again.
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Post by Jon on Sept 13, 2009 22:25:18 GMT
]before jumping in and "re-writing history" as one respected contributor is so often and so fond of accusing me of doing! And I am sure you would hold your hands up if guilty as charged, but defend yourself robustly but politely if you felt wrongly accused - in line with Dave R's "Utopian" dream of a forum where people argue their point in a vigorous but respectful manner. |
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Post by ospelgull on Sept 14, 2009 12:15:29 GMT
Having now had the opportunity to view the TV footage of the goals, I would add this observation: Goal1: Evidence indeed of Wroe strolling back at his own pace..................absolutely not acceptable and I don't think Poke would be too pleased with the way he dealt with the initial shot either. Goal 2: The value of one big lump who can go up and beat off two opponents to send a back header into acres of space allowed once again by the same failing as the first goal. If Hargreaves wants a free kick for slipping over, well so be it but I think in his heart of hearts he knows he needs to be looking at his studding rather than tryiong to con the ref. Goal 3 (ours): That it was scored in time added on tells it's own story. I assume that you are not blaming Wroe for their first goal? Sloppy defending and we let their player walk past two of our players at rightback. Goal two: Hargreaves slips, to me absolutely not a foul but bad luck. Or better studs for the old man... |
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