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Post by Dave on Aug 16, 2009 20:41:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2009 6:25:43 GMT
Venford is something of a reminder of Paignton's municipal separateness from Torquay - through its own urban district council - which continued until the creation of the county borough in the late 1960s. Water for Torquay from one direction, water for Paignton from another....and a prolonged dispute between the two towns about which tramway system to use.
Eight reservoirs in the national park area I believe - but which was the 9th that was never built after being rejected by parliament in the early 1970s?
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Post by merse on Aug 17, 2009 14:19:38 GMT
Eight reservoirs in the national park area I believe - but which was the 9th that was never built after being rejected by parliament in the early 1970s? Swincombe!Remember that SWWB advert to "Save Water, Bath With A Friend"? During the severe water shortages of 1974 when we were using standpipes, I wrote a letter to the principal objector of that scheme, Lady Sylvia Sayers; inviting her to come around and share a bath with me but warning her that I would piss in it and taunt her if she had tits like empty paper bags...........................I didn't even get a reply !
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Post by Dave on Aug 17, 2009 17:56:22 GMT
Venford is something of a reminder of Paignton's municipal separateness from Torquay - through its own urban district council - which continued until the creation of the county borough in the late 1960s. Water for Torquay from one direction, water for Paignton from another....and a prolonged dispute between the two towns about which tramway system to use. Eight reservoirs in the national park area I believe - but which was the 9th that was never built after being rejected by parliament in the early 1970s? Would this be the parliamentary debate Barton that ended up rejecting a new reservoir? www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=1970-04-14a.1282.2
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2009 19:31:41 GMT
A excellent finding, Dave, and I wonder if a certain AM of Newton Abbot petitioned the support of Miss Joan Vickers in his own inimitable fashion? Or Jeremy Thorpe or Michael Heseltine for that matter? And, yes, Sir Frederic himself is even there, wakening from his slumbers to interject at one point. At least it made a change from him representing Pretoria or Santiago in the Mother of Parliaments. Also, a little aside from the future Baroness Joan on the subject of Mayflower 1970. Does anyone remember that? Merse in fact beat me to it with his mention of Lady Sylvia Sayers. Thinking back, my parents - Dartmoor visitors of the kind who never ventured too far from the car (usually at Badger's Holt, naturally) - thought she was a raving lunatic. By contrast a family friend, who grew up near Princetown, was firmly in the preservationalist "no water on the moor" camp. They had some intriguing discussions. I guess you either think reservoirs enhance the beauty of the moor - and Joan Vickers made a fair point in saying they're not ugly - or you believe they spoil the naturalness of the landscape. I'm ambivalent as usual. Aside from Meldon, I've not known a Dartmoor reservoir built within my life's memory. For me, in that sense, reservoirs come with the moor's territory. On the other hand as a Dartmoor lover - with over thirty years of tramping that wonderful, Godforsaken place under my belt (and Swincombe near Hexworthy is pretty bleak I can tell you) - I'm firmly of the belief Dartmoor adds that extra dimension in making Devon special. Love it - or hate it (and what do people on this site feel about Dartmoor?) - such a wilderness is pretty unusual in the southern half of the country. You don't get that sort of landscape in bleedin' Essex, do you? Consequently - if there had never been any reservoirs on the moor - I'd now be pretty bloody grumpy if somebody suddenly proposed the flooding of moorland valleys. But, ultimately, I imagine the realist (and geographer) in me would surface and I'd accept the pro-water arguments. After all, what's the alternative? However, having said that, it's fascinating we haven't heard too many Dartmoor reservoir proposals since Swincombe. What happened? Did the preservationalists win the day? Or did the massive off-the-moor Roadford Lake fit the bill perfectly? So, we look forward to the rest of Dave's series on the moor's reservoirs. In the meantime, a question. The moor has reservoirs built by Plymouth, Paignton and Torquay. But what about Exeter? Where does its supply come from? You may find answers - or not - at the superb Exeter Memories website: www.exetermemories.co.uk
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Post by merse on Aug 17, 2009 19:56:25 GMT
A excellent finding, Dave, and I wonder if a certain AM of Newton Abbot petitioned the support of Miss Joan Vickers in his own inimitable fashion? Or Jeremy Thorpe or Michael Heseltine for that matter? Well you wouldn't catch me sharing a bath with Jeremy Thorpe, that's for sure........................even Dave Roach would stand more chance in joining me searching for that "lost bar of soap" than that old pouff! Anyone reckon Greavsie is Michael Heseltine's love child?
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Post by Dave on Aug 17, 2009 20:14:57 GMT
I think Dartmoor is worth a whole thread on its own Barton and I'm sure it would be a very interesting one and many would have tales to tell
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2009 20:32:17 GMT
Well you wouldn't catch me sharing a bath with Jeremy Thorpe, that's for sure........................even Dave Roach would stand more chance in joining me searching for that "lost bar of soap" than that old pouff! Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. It reminds me of a joke told at school by Martin Bowley, later a big cheese in the world of ITV advertising. "I say, I say, I say...why has Jeremy Thorpe moved to Teignmouth?"
"So he can get into Newton easier!"Merse will explain....
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