timbo
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Post by timbo on Jul 17, 2010 7:31:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2010 9:17:46 GMT
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Post by merse on Jul 17, 2010 10:47:06 GMT
 I bet those "Council Estates" where viewed with a degree of disdain by the posh folk up on the Warberries and nearby Livermead when they were mooted. It's always made me laugh when I hear some people refer to Hele Village and Watcombe as "tough council estates"..................they don't know the half of it, and should have taken a trip or two to the outlaying areas of Plymouth and Bristol to say nothing of Inner London, Manchester, Liverpool and Birmingham. Fifty and sixty years on there are some fabulous rural properties that were built as social housing that are now substantial and much sought after homes with sizeable gardens and it might seem hard to fathom now, but there was indeed significent social deprivation and financial hardship for those who were the first inhabitants of such homes; existing as they had to on subsistence level agricultural wages and rock bottom service industry conditions. Now of course, much of that housing stock has been allowed to pass from public to private ownership and a whole new underclass have emerged in areas that to the untrained eye, are affluent and and easy to live in.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2010 21:57:57 GMT
I bet those "Council Estates" where viewed with a degree of disdain by the posh folk up on the Warberries and nearby Livermead when they were mooted. And not for the first time, most likely, given the wealthy had grabbed all the sea views by the mid 19th century necessitating that the late 1850s working-class suburb of Ellacombe was confined to a cramped inland valley. John Pike’s 1992 history of Torquay gives September 1920 for the date of the town’s first council houses at Westhill, just right for the introduction of professional football at Plainmoor. Showing a contradiction with the book’s text, Pike’s chronology then mentions the start of the Hele estate in 1926 (with the roads – Wreys, Johns and Wrights – being named after councillors) followed some time later by the cathedral cities estate the other side of Hele Road. |
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Post by Jon on Jul 19, 2010 21:50:19 GMT
Gil Merrick denied us a draw in the Birmingham friendly but was later to do us a massive favour, after becoming Blues' manager, by falling out with a young Robin Stubbs. The rest is history. ".. it pays to go and watch football matches yourself rather than sit by your own fireside and rely on another medium to present it to you". Spot on Traveller! A special bus from the Haywain for fivepence halfpenny. Did you used to get that one Chelston?  |
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