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Post by chrish on Sept 1, 2010 0:22:49 GMT
I got back in an hour ago. I started to write a report and then did something daft with the laptop's touchpad so I lost the first draft.  I almost didn't make the game thought due to some horrific snarl up on the A31 coming down from London. I had to make a detour through the New Forest. It was a game that we didn't really deserve to win. Especially as Bournemouth played pretty well and although we were reeling a bit with all the pressure they had in the last 20 minutes or so, we dealt with most of it ok. They created a decent number of good chances and it was only their ineptitude to finish, good blocks from our lot or a few decent saves from Big Bevan that saw us go to another final whistle without conceding a goal. But that's not to say that we weren't bad though. In the first half I thought that we passed the ball quite well. Zebs played on the right wing and O'Kane played in the hole behind Benyon. We were playing some nice one touch stuff. It was a shame that more of the work between Wroe, O'Kane and Benyon didn't quite come off but there's such a fine line between it coming off and it looking a bit daft that I'm sure with more practice things will start to improve. Our defensive unit is beginning to defend like Arsenal's old Dixon-Bould-Adams-Winterburn back four. The way that they attack the ball if it's there to be won or the way that they wholeheartedly block everything is great to see. We looked ok until about 60 minutes when Bournemouth pushed on and really put us under a bit of pressure. Gritts came on for Benyon, Billy Kee came on for Stevens. Zebs switched to the left and O'Kane went wide right. Later on in the game Damon Lathrope replaced Danny Stevens who had a quiet game. Benyon played a similar game to the one at Port Vale. Sometimes the ball stuck, sometimes it didn't, sometimes he found the right pass and sometimes he kept the ball for too long. I just wonder if PB has asked him to remain a bit more static upfront in the last couple of games. He still chases things down but a lot less than before. So onto the penalties. At the final whistle PB led the players across to applaud us and ask us for more support. There was a decent number of away support tonight considering. I reckon 250 would be a reasonable estimate. The penalties were taken in front of the home support in the Steve Fletcher stand. Their first bloke knocked it wide right, Robbo scored with composure. 0-1 Their second bloke knocked it wide right although I'm not sure if Bevs got a hand on it. Nicky Wroe stepped up and scored easily. 0-2. Bournemouth fans made for the exit. Their third penalty taker stepped up and hit to Bevan's right and the big man made a splendid save. Nico placed the ball and then sent the keeper the wrong way. 0-3. Then it was start your car time. I didn't want to hang about for too long in their vast and free car park. Winning games is a good habit to have. Anyway. A few photos.         |
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Post by royalgull on Sept 1, 2010 0:27:33 GMT
We were very average tonight. Defensively excellent which is now standard par for the course, Bevan in goal was brilliant all night even before he made the save with one of the pens. He's such a big guy it's got to be daunting as a penalty taker, knowing unless it's right in the corner this fella is going to save it. Think that's why they put two wide, trying too hard to put it out of Bevs reach.
Back onto the game, we were 4-5-1 with O'Kane just behind Benyon. It didn't work. After 50minutes the change should have been made, by the time it was made we'd gone into survival mode for penalties. Zebroski was our mian threat on the night and he had a few good runs and efforts on goal which their keeper saved. Benyon didn't look the same player i saw against Reading but he was completely isolated up front all night. Whenever he got it there was no one within 10 yards of him on ocassions. I also felt he should have had a penalty in the first half, a straight long ball he outpaced the defender and got hauled down in the box. Considering what they got a penalty for last year it was bordering on GBH in comparison.
I don't remember Stevens having a kick and bar an audacious lob attempt by O'Kane he too was very quiet. Mansell and Wroe full of industry and endeavour, few times carelessly gave it away but you have to excuse and expect that at times.
Bournemouth were equally poor in the 1st half, much improved second half and they forced Bevs into a couple of decent saves and had a few good moves that lacked the killer finish in front of goal. Whilst the chants of 'Pitman would have scored it' were fairly tiresome, it was a fact he probably would have done.
I don't like 4-5-1 I don't think it suits us and it doesn't suit Benyon. He's better alongside the big guy doing the dirty work and allowing Benyon to play off the shoulder of the back 4. It might work with Gritts in there doing what Rendell did last year but it certainly doesn't work with O Kane in there.
Overall we were 2nd best tonight in all honesty, but considering what happened with penaltygate last season I feel some justice has been done in that it was penalties that was their undoing. The fact they missed all 3 was quite comical, even in penalites we can't concede!!
School report would read can and must do better but the end result in cup ties is what matters and we are in the hat for the next round, by that token it's a job well done.
Ratings
Bevan 9
Robertson 7
Nicholson 7
Ellis 8
Branston 8
Zebroski 7
Stevens 5
Wroe 6
Mansell 7
O Kane 5
Benyon 5
Gritts, Kee, Lathrope all weren't on long enough to add much.
MOTM Scott Bevan.
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Post by ospelgull on Sept 1, 2010 6:07:20 GMT
Thanks for the match reports! Well, another good result which will breed some more confidence in the team. Another tie on the way and some money in the bag, always good!
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Post by mandi on Sept 1, 2010 6:51:17 GMT
Ratings Bevan 9 Robertson 7 Nicholson 7 Ellis 8 Branston 8 Zebroski 7 Stevens 5 Wroe 6 Mansell 7 O Kane 5 Benyon 5 Gritts, Kee, Lathrope all weren't on long enough to add much. MOTM Scott Bevan. Please could you put what baseline you are using so that everyone can fully understand what your ratings mean.  |
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Post by warwickgull on Sept 1, 2010 6:54:12 GMT
Good report. Ouch, 3 5s out of ten, and another low mark for Benyon. Be carefully bud, I know you were actually there, but I hope you have enough competitive sporting knowledge to critise our team. A certain uncle merse watching from home with his yellow tinted crystal ball won't be happy! He cycled competitively you know!!!! Ps would you replace benyon with Key for Southend?
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Post by keyberrygull on Sept 1, 2010 7:36:34 GMT
Good report. Ouch, 3 5s out of ten, and another low mark for Benyon. Be carefully bud, I know you were actually there, but I hope you have enough competitive sporting knowledge to critise our team. A certain uncle merse watching from home with his yellow tinted crystal ball won't be happy! He cycled competitively you know!!!! Ps would you replace benyon with Key for Southend? Rise above if you can warwick. An 11 year old bleary eyed boy, when questioned in Newton Abbot at 1AM this morning by his dad, claimed that Benyon appeared to be *********. Ive been granted another 24 hrs by his mum and questioning will continue later today. |
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Post by merse on Sept 1, 2010 8:19:50 GMT
Benyon played a similar game to the one at Port Vale. Sometimes the ball stuck, sometimes it didn't, sometimes he found the right pass and sometimes he kept the ball for too long. I just wonder if PB has asked him to remain a bit more static upfront in the last couple of games. He still chases things down but a lot less than before.  Playing alone at the head of a 5-1 midfield and strike force is an onourous and demanding role. Certainly one in which the use of energy has to be carefully considered and reserves maintained to last the distance. An hour is probably the maximum time to expect a player to carry out this role ~ Benyon's shift went eleven minutes over that last night. Certainly the amount of running off the ball will need to be less than when playing up front in a dual strike force, movement has to be side to side and diagonal rather than lateral and the object for the player concerned is to try to "stretch" play and create room for the five behind him. It is a great system for making the pitch as big as possible when in possession and as small as possible when seeking it. By being "more static" a player can often be easier to hit with a long ball out of defence than one who constantly "buzzes about"'Putting in less running and buzzing about playing as a lone man is certainly not a sign of "disinterest" as opposed to the very different role of playing as one of two.Paul Buckle is obviously expanding Benyon's portfolio of skills and increasing his tactical awreness, and his has to be good because the last time I saw Benners playing myself (Barnet away last season) I thought his running off the ball, positional judgement and timing were all very poor and made him very difficult for the rest of the side to play with, especially someone trying to deliver the ball to him. |
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Post by dazgull on Sept 1, 2010 8:59:45 GMT
well that certainly made up for last seasons robbery!
first half was fairly entertaining with both sides trying to play football and wroe, okane, zebroski and benyon linking well and just failing to open them up although stevens was fairly quiet. zeb had a couple of great runs which came clse to scoring from. however in the second half benyon was miles away from his teammates, yes he didnt keep the ball at times but even when he did okane and co were too far apart and so bournemouth continually had the ball.
they gradually got on top and we could have done with some tackles on their players as they ran at will at times but once they got near our goal we defended excellently. bevan had a fine game and never looked like he wasnt going to get to any balls crossed in. all the defence did their bit with ellis again having a great game, thankfully no one managed to sign him!
our attacks were very few as the second half went on and usually involved zeb but the addition of gritton and kee didnt really change anything.
oddly enough once the penalties came i was confident that we would get through, didnt expect to do it 3-0 though. we must be getting better as we are even keeping clean sheets in penaly shoot outs.....
great celebrations from the travelling fans, 250 odd was a good turn out for this competition.
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Post by warwickgull on Sept 1, 2010 9:00:21 GMT
Just looking for a little consistency in the scrutiny and mocking of match reports on the site. Apologies, however childish the whole thing may seem, and I apologise for not rising above it, but if a new poster is insulted then ridiculed for a meezly but very accurate match report for days after the event surely he is aloud to retort?
Retort over! Apologies:-)
Retort over apologies!:-)
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Post by warwickgull on Sept 1, 2010 9:02:29 GMT
Dam I phone
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Post by warwickgull on Sept 1, 2010 9:31:40 GMT
Merse, I'm not sure how many times I have posted it now, like I said the very next day perhaps disinterest was the wrong word to use in a quick 5 minn match report. I agree with your description of the 4-5-1 system but we did play 4-4-2 for a good chunk of the vale game and Elliott didn't impress in that period either, not only myself but DT,s report and a number of other people backed that up. Whether Key gets a chance instead of Benyon Who knows. Some wouldn't change a winning side, especially one with 4 wins in a row sitting at the top of the table. However some would be looking to constantly tweak the side for possible improvements. Perhaps Elliott now with 2 very average performances under his belt in under a week should step aside and give Key a chance. One thing is for sure we need to start keeping the ball better in midfield because if we come across a side who can actually finish our run of wins is going to end sooner rather than later:-)
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Post by merse on Sept 1, 2010 9:41:38 GMT
if a new poster is insulted then ridiculed Does someone who has been on the site for two years, but deleted all their posts prior to last Saturday constitute a "new poster" then? You're like a "Bear" with a sore head over this!  |
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Post by warwickgull on Sept 1, 2010 10:11:54 GMT
May have registered but I have never posted on this site until last week to the best of my knowledge. I have certainly never deleted anything, I wouldn't know how to! I'm the bear with the sore head but your the one researching my profile?
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Post by Dave on Sept 1, 2010 10:22:10 GMT
warwickgull the reaction to your match report received mixed reviews, I gave my views on this whole matter as you know and all I will add is that most of us are not qualified as such but we don't need to be as at the end of the day we go and watch a game and give our own opinions of how well we thought the players played etc. All views should only ever been seen as no more than the opinion of the writer and while those views are there to be challenged if others do not agree with them, it is and always should be the points made that should be discussed and not the writers ability or position they hold to make those view. Can we please move on now  Many thanks Dave |
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Post by khilllegend on Sept 1, 2010 10:30:45 GMT
Well all I can say is cracking match, cracking atmosphere even had a go on the drum one of the best games i have ever been to for the noise, didnt stop singing. Got a sore head and a sore throat. Oh and Charlie met Bevanator after the game and got his picture with him couldnt be happier! |
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I almost didn't make the game thought due to some horrific snarl up on the A31 coming down from London. I had to make a detour through the New Forest.
