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Post by rjdgull on Sept 19, 2010 20:50:50 GMT
Once again another reserve fixtures roll in before a break brought about by first team midweek action. I'm sure O'Kane has appreciated getting 90 minutes in these matches under his belt prior to starting last Saturday and by all accounts put in a good performance! There is the option of Benyon getting some sort of run out if he is fit enough and considered desirable. Carlisle will probably be a starter otherwise a pretty similar team should run out as previously. The result is secondary in these matches but ourselves, Swindon and Bournmouth are the only teams that have won in this league so I would anticipate a fairly tough match. I'm sure Macklin will be up for this match playing against many of his former team mates. At least we are still top of this league.
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Post by rjdgull on Sept 21, 2010 16:25:05 GMT
A pleasing 2 - 0 home victory with goals coming from Benyon and Yeoman, match report now on dot com. I'm beginning to think that our reserve team compares quite well to many of our rivals and could be good news for later in the season.
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Post by Jon on Sept 21, 2010 19:54:21 GMT
I booked a half-day holiday and went along to this. There is a decent match report up on the club site: www.torquayunited.com/page/Reserves/0,,10445~2160887,00.html Formation-wise, it was a straight 4-4-2 this time. Yeoman played centre-midfield alongside Lathrope. Halpin was wide on the right and Macklin wide on the left - but they swapped wings in the second half. Yeoman went up front when Taylor came on for Benyon. It was very noticeable that we played left-footed Charnock at right-centre-back and right-footed Palmer at left-centre-back. I assume that the plan was to get Charnock some practice in that position in case he is needed to fill in for Ellis. I did notice that Charnock was quite vocal (not quite Branstonesque, but getting there) during the game and I wonder whether skippering a young side will help to develop that side of his game. I have always thought he was a bit on the quiet side. I think it was a youngish Swindon side (I am no expert on other team's squads), but they were far tougher and far more combative than the Exeter side I saw up at Sid James. This gave the game a far more competitive feel than my only other taste of this reserve league and although we weren't able to spray the ball around as comfortably as we could up there, it seemed like a far more realistic workout for players aspiring to play League 2 football. O'Kane and Lathrope were able to stroll around in that game whereas Lathrope and Yeoman really had to roll up their sleeves and get stuck in today - which they both did very effectively. Hats off to Yeoman for putting in such a decent shift in an unfamiliar position.
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Post by rjdgull on Sept 21, 2010 20:31:54 GMT
Thanks for your take on this game Jon and it helps to build a picture on where the club is at present.
Although this league has been very much a plus so far, with the priority of giving match practise to those pros not starting in the previous game it will mean some changes to the line up. At the start of the season who would have predicted Benyon and Kee lining up in attack or Yeoman in midfield for this fixture? Maybe good value for your money?
I wonder if any of the Swindon players today will feature in the JPT next month?
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Post by merse on Sept 21, 2010 21:52:57 GMT
It was very noticeable that we played left-footed Charnock at right-centre-back That was how it was set up on Saturday when Charnock came on as a "like for like" replacement for right centre back Ellis. In this day and age I still find it quite indicative of the technical deficiencies in the English game that have had to be addressed that one footed players make it as professional footballers.
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Post by Jon on Sept 21, 2010 22:08:21 GMT
In this day and age I still find it quite indicative of the technical deficiencies in the English game that have had to be addressed that one footed players make it as professional footballers. In fairness to Charnock, he isn't as one-footed as some of our players. He'll certainly use his left if he has the choice, but will use his right rather than go round in a circle to get the ball onto the only foot he can use. I'd expect him to play to the right of Branston, but my point was that Palmer and Charnock would obviously set up right and left respectively if the only consideration was fielding the best team to maximise the chance of winning. Playing them the wrong way round was obviously done to give Charnock some time playing on his unfamiliar side. I think that familiarity with the position is as much an issue as one-footedness. I don't really follow the Premiership stuff, but I believe that Terry is right-footed but more used to playing left-centre-back - and struggled to adjust to moving over to what you would have thought would be his natural side.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2010 2:49:28 GMT
It was very noticeable that we played left-footed Charnock at right-centre-back That was how it was set up on Saturday when Charnock came on as a "like for like" replacement for right centre back Ellis. In this day and age I still find it quite indicative of the technical deficiencies in the English game that have had to be addressed that one footed players make it as professional footballers. Merse, I can't think of any one-footed English players. They all have 2! On a serous note, I don't think that having only one good peg is just confined to English players. I lived in Germany for years and the vast majority of Bundesliga players are one-footed. Hasn't stopped them having a top class national team for years. Let's face it, truly gifted 2-footed players are few and far between. Any club that finds a 2-footed player with footie skills that parallel the ambidextrous world class snooker skills of Ronnie O'Sullivan will truly have unearthed a unique footballer.
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Post by Rags on Sept 22, 2010 6:13:48 GMT
Let's face it, truly gifted 2-footed players are few and far between. Any club that finds a 2-footed player with footie skills that parallel the ambidextrous world class snooker skills of Ronnie O'Sullivan will truly have unearthed a unique footballer. Fair point - even Lionel Messi is predominately one-footed (but what a foot!). And yet I am incredulous that someone of the experience and playing at the standard of Ashley Cole has failed to practice using his right foot for kicking. He has been a professional footballer for over 10 years yet appears to have spent more of that time throwing up over hairdressers than trying to develop his ability to kick a ball with either foot with equal effectiveness.
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Post by merse on Sept 22, 2010 9:14:35 GMT
Let's face it, truly gifted 2-footed players are few and far between. Any club that finds a 2-footed player with footie skills that parallel the ambidextrous world class snooker skills of Ronnie O'Sullivan will truly have unearthed a unique footballer. Fair point - even Lionel Messi is predominately one-footed (but what a foot!). And yet I am incredulous that someone of the experience and playing at the standard of Ashley Cole has failed to practice using his right foot for kicking. Two footed players "unique" ? ~ gimme a break! Anthony has been two footed since he could kick a ball because I judicioisly made sure he would be............rolling a tiny ball to either foot in turn and I do the same to Calvin now who is just 16 months old. The left side of the brain drives the right side of the body and vice versa and it is natural to be predominantly in favour of one side but this can be overcome by retraining the brain in the same way that stroke victims overcome their paralysis so that they can use their left hand if they had been right handed but lost the use of it. It's just a question of practice, practice, practice. I was born left footed and right handed but worked on my right foot enough to be comfortable with either foot ~ bloody useless but comfortable It IS through lack of practice that players are one footed and although I'll concede there have been some genius one footed players (surely none finer than Ferenc Puskas who was painfully left footed) if you really care to study players on the world stage you will see plenty of world class two footed players. The younger someone is, the less difficult it is to overcome one footedness, so the hard work needs to be done at the very outset; then it becomes as natural as breathing and that is why ALL soccer tots classes should feature less on the "but they must have fun" mantra and more on the basics. To me "they must have fun" is an apologists excuse for failing to attain the levels needed and a diversion from the need to acquire basic technique. I spend loads of time with Anthony, chucking him balls to get under control in difficult situations ~ balls that would be called "rubbish" balls out on the football field ~ under his chin, too wide, too fast and sold short; so that he maintains the ability to get that ball under control when he is under pressure in a game and in a tight corner. All the "Cruyff Turns" and "Messi Flicks" in the world won't help you if you haven't got command of the ruddy ball in the first place and all the genius's have mastered the basics. What's the use of being able to do "Keepie Uppies" for minutes at a time if you can't trap a bag of cement? If you have the first touch of a rapist, or if you shank everything with your "weaker" foot? Ashley Cole is a wonderfully gifted footballer, but he could have been so much better.
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Post by chrish on Sept 22, 2010 12:25:30 GMT
Fair point - even Lionel Messi is predominately one-footed (but what a foot!). And yet I am incredulous that someone of the experience and playing at the standard of Ashley Cole has failed to practice using his right foot for kicking. Two footed players "unique" ? ~ gimme a break! Anthony has been two footed since he could kick a ball because I judicioisly made sure he would be............rolling a tiny ball to either foot in turn and I do the same to Calvin now who is just 16 months old. The left side of the brain drives the right side of the body and vice versa and it is natural to be predominantly in favour of one side but this can be overcome by retraining the brain in the same way that stroke victims overcome their paralysis so that they can use their left hand if they had been right handed but lost the use of it. It's just a question of practice, practice, practice. I was born left footed and right handed but worked on my left foot enough to be comfortable with either foot ~ bloody useless but comfortable It IS through lack of practice that players are one footed and although I'll concede there have been some genius one footed players (surely none finer than Ferenc Puskas who was painfully left footed) if you really care to study players on the world stage you will see plenty of world class two footed players. The younger someone is, the less difficult it is to overcome one footedness, so the hard work needs to be done at the very outset; then it becomes as natural as breathing and that is why ALL soccer tots classes should feature less on the "but they must have fun" mantra and more on the basics. To me "they must have fun" is an apologists excuse for failing to attain the levels needed and a diversion from the need to acquire basic technique. I spend loads of time with Anthony, chucking him balls to get under control in difficult situations ~ balls that would be called "rubbish" balls out on the football field ~ under his chin, too wide, too fast and sold short; so that he maintains the ability to get that ball under control when he is under pressure in a game and in a tight corner. All the "Cruyff Turns" and "Messi Flicks" in the world won't help you if you haven't got command of the ruddy ball in the first place and all the genius's have mastered the basics. What's the use of being able to do "Keepie Uppies" for minutes at a time if you can't trap a bag of cement? If you have the first touch of a rapist, or if you shank everything with your "weaker" foot? Ashley Cole is a wonderfully gifted footballer, but he could have been so much better. Alan Shearer said something about this on MOTD 2 on sunday night. Colin Murray asked him if he ever scored a goal he knew nothing about, regarding the Fabregas Fluke, and he replied "I wasn't sure every time I hit a shot with my left foot, it could've gone anywhere". This from a man who scored 289 goals in 559 games and 30 goals in 63 games for England. Would he have cored more if his left was as good as his right? Perhaps it's all about personal preference. Shearer strikes me as being the sort of bloke who would work on his weaknesses as well as his strengths.
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Post by keyberrygull on Sept 22, 2010 17:23:33 GMT
It was very noticeable that we played left-footed Charnock at right-centre-back That was how it was set up on Saturday when Charnock came on as a "like for like" replacement for right centre back Ellis. In this day and age I still find it quite indicative of the technical deficiencies in the English game that have had to be addressed that one footed players make it as professional footballers. Sorry to be pedantic Alan but I doubt if you will ever meet a professional footballer with only one foot! Players tend to have a preferred side. If taking a free-kick, Charnnock like Shearer, would probably use his right foot and Nicholson his left . Like feet, there are many things that can be done with both hands. Most people tend to use the same hand every time. Writing.
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Post by merse on Sept 22, 2010 18:27:09 GMT
Sorry to be pedantic Alan but I doubt if you will ever meet a professional footballer with only one foot! Players tend to have a preferred side. Like feet, there are many things that can be done with both hands. Most people tend to use the same hand every time. But if you want to have total mastery of the ball and complete comfort when in possession, you HAVE to have equal control with either foot. You HAVE to be able to receive the ball from either side and control it instantly with either foot on the outside and the inside of that foot too. That way, you can decide in an instant (before you receive that ball even) just where you are going to play it and those nanno seconds saved are what create the space that make you a class player. Now just for tonight Brian, I want you to get on the missus' tits by knocking a tennis ball against the living room wall.................use BOTH feet (not together now silly) and BOTH the outside and inside of either foot. Not only tonight, but every night; night after night. She'll most probably call you a lunatic and leave you, but at least you'll be a fit and proper person to watch Arsenal on the telly next time they are on, and you'll have created acres of space for yourself that you never imagined would be possible!
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Post by keyberrygull on Sept 22, 2010 19:38:24 GMT
It was an opportunity too good to miss Alan but every player has two feet. Train for as long as you like, one foot will always take preference and end up being more powerfull than the other.
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Post by lambethgull on Sept 22, 2010 19:44:27 GMT
There's being 'comfortable' and able to use either foot when necessary, and there's being two-footed. Wayne Rooney, for example, can use either foot, but 8/10 he will use opt to use his right. I would argue that players equally able and willing to use either foot are in a tiny minority, at whatever level of football.
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