Post by rjdgull on Jan 28, 2012 23:51:38 GMT
Something this forum had lacked since Dave has stepped back from things is those new non Torquay United threads which covered a whole variety of themes and topics. So I was really pleased to see a new topical thread that created a bit of debate with many opinions but basically looking at how high the safety net of the welfare state is placed and its fairness on the more productive part of society. Not that it is a particularly new topic as this quote from almost a quarter of a millennium ago illustrates!
•"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it."
-- Benjamin Franklin, November 1766
Anyway, well done to stuartb, a mainstay of this forum for taking the time out for his rant and in the process showing junior that he has still got it! ;D
I could not believe my ears earlier. I know there will be sensationalising on both sides of the argument but how is £26,000 take home pay the limit/cap for benefits?
I do not take that home and I work 50 to 60 hours a week!!!
What world do these people live in? a luxurious one obviously.
there was a woman on the news saying that she was a single parent, no family in the country and no job. the limit of £26,000 would mean she could not afford the rent.
Well welcome to the real world! i can't afford to live in a big house, so should I get the tax payer to pay it for me because it's my right? BS
Simple fact if you can't afford it, don't buy it or move.
What incentive is there for that lady to even go and get a job? she would need a job of a minimum of £42,000 a year just to stand still.
the benefits system stinks and the hard working are not rewarded fairly
rant over
•"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it."
-- Benjamin Franklin, November 1766
Anyway, well done to stuartb, a mainstay of this forum for taking the time out for his rant and in the process showing junior that he has still got it! ;D
I do not take that home and I work 50 to 60 hours a week!!!
What world do these people live in? a luxurious one obviously.
there was a woman on the news saying that she was a single parent, no family in the country and no job. the limit of £26,000 would mean she could not afford the rent.
Well welcome to the real world! i can't afford to live in a big house, so should I get the tax payer to pay it for me because it's my right? BS
Simple fact if you can't afford it, don't buy it or move.
What incentive is there for that lady to even go and get a job? she would need a job of a minimum of £42,000 a year just to stand still.
the benefits system stinks and the hard working are not rewarded fairly
rant over