Dave
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Post by Dave on May 28, 2012 7:43:06 GMT
The new England manager has named the 23 players for 2012 Euro cup. What are your thoughts and views on his selections
England's 23-man squad for Euro 2012
Goalkeepers Joe Hart (Manchester City), Rob Green (West Ham United), John Ruddy (Norwich City)
Defenders Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Joleon Lescott (Manchester City), John Terry (Chelsea)
Midfielders Gareth Barry (Manchester City), Stewart Downing (Liverpool), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Manchester City), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Scott Parker (Tottenham Hotspur), Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Ashley Young (Manchester United)
Forwards Andy Carroll (Liverpool), Jermain Defoe (Tottenham Hotspur), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Welbeck (Manchester United)
On standby Jack Butland (Birmingham City), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea).
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Post by Ditmar van Nostrilboy on May 28, 2012 7:56:39 GMT
Suprised that Johnson is prefered to Richards would be my first thought.
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Post by lambethgull on May 28, 2012 11:18:30 GMT
I'm pretty much a neutral when watching England these days.
But if they play as uninspiringly at the Euros as they did against Norway, I'll be cheering for the opposition.
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Post by JamesB on May 28, 2012 19:05:47 GMT
thefcf.co.uk/2012/05/28/euro-2012-alternative-england-reject-xi/17333/If you ask me, that's a better side overall than the one England will put out in the first game I have faith in Roy but his squad selections were rather odd. So many Liverpool selections despite the fact that they had a dire season, as opposed to the English players from the Man Utd side that nearly won the title, players that are well used to playing in a unit as Roy usually likes his teams playing
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Post by rjdgull on Jun 5, 2012 7:12:13 GMT
I see Gary Cahill is ruled out with injury. Martin Kelly of Liverpool has been brought in as an replacement as opposed to Ferdinand as youth over experience.
That is fine with me as I have already written off the Euro's and we should be looking to build towards the World Cup!
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Post by aw on Jun 5, 2012 8:51:22 GMT
That is fine with me as I have already written off the Euro's and we should be looking to build towards the World Cup! Common sense prevails, replicate Germany and Spain and your in with a shout, try and win this competition and it remains the same old England, no chance! |
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Post by JamesB on Jun 6, 2012 10:45:59 GMT
I don't remember Germany and Spain ever writing off tournaments before they'd begun. Spain in particular - they always used to go into tournaments as the dark horses
England only ever feel the need to say they're writing off a tournament because they believe they're good enough to win everything, despite evidence to the contrary. If expectations had been more realistic over the last decade, England fans would be expecting the same results as usual. England sides haven't got particularly better or worse over time - they've been a 7/10 team for every international tournament they've been in in the last 30 years and this one is no exception
In fact, the last time England had this many problems with injury prior to a major tournament was 2002, when they actually played quite well despite having Danny Mills and Trevor Sinclair in the starting XI
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Post by milber on Jun 6, 2012 19:06:18 GMT
Football is like every other profession in the Uk.
The influx of foreign labour has led to supply being greater than demand.
So although we have spent billions on centres of excellence, improved training facilities and supposedly the coaching. The decision to select the biggest and strongest as opposed to the most talented, Eunan Okane being a prime example, has led to the products of this coaching system being pushed down the leagues. Add to this the FA`s refusal to look outside the Premiershite for an outfield player and what do you get youngsters from the scouse stiffs making up the numbers in the England squad.
This begs the question have the centres of excellence & training facilities been a waste of money? or
are the players overcoached and individual flair & confidence being driven out of the English game, or
are the players there but lower down the league and the FA needs to change its selection policy?
Personally I think, the game is so physical & quick in this country, quality is of little importance, hence clubs will not sadly go for the likes of EO.
I say bring back "Le God", Bowles, Worthington, Currie & Gazza to show them how to play
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bring back Fowler, Shearer, Owen to show them where the net is
this squad is probably the most boring I have ever witnessed. quite how we will score 2 goals in a game is beyond me.
Not the managers fault, we simply lack any decent players.
milber
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Post by lambethgull on Jun 6, 2012 19:21:59 GMT
this squad is probably the most boring I have ever witnessed. quite how we will score 2 goals in a game is beyond me. we simply lack any decent players. Agree completely. Watching the England back four ponderously spray it about ("it's all about possession") only for our players to panic like headless chickens as soon as the ball is played into midfield is just embarrassing. I wouldn't mind if we played 'high tempo' or 'long ball', at least it would be something different. And what's Hodgson's obsession with Liverpool players? You could understand Buckle raiding the TUFC squad after he left, but surely an England manager is supposed to be above that sort of carry on? |
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