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Post by crooky on Aug 9, 2008 17:46:50 GMT
Just got back from the game and to be honest it was pretty un-inspiring stuff. On a wide pitch we again seem to lack width. Not much of the new passing game I had been expecting I'm afraid. Still, it's early days. A draw was probably a fair result. 400-500 Gulls fans present.
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Post by Dave on Aug 9, 2008 17:54:25 GMT
Just got back from the game and to be honest it was pretty un-inspiring stuff. On a wide pitch we again seem to lack width. Not much of the new passing game I had been expecting I'm afraid. Still, it's early days. A draw was probably a fair result. 400-500 Gulls fans present. thanks crooky, Dave T made it sound a much different game, he seemed to think we played Histon off the park with some very good football. Mind you he always does ;D
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Post by crooky on Aug 9, 2008 17:59:01 GMT
Dave. Don't really know what game Dave was watching. If my memory serves me correctly we played very little football. That wasn't only my opinion but that of those I was standing with. You generally tell if the side has put on a decent performance, the supporters will give the side a rousing round of applause as they leave the pitch. I don't seem to remember that happening either??
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Post by Dave on Aug 9, 2008 18:09:18 GMT
Well you were there mate and I trust your view, sure Merse will also tell it as it was. I tell no lies mate, I was here thinking we played very well, had most of the game and were very unlucky not to get all three points.
So much for having to listen on the radio ;D
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Post by crooky on Aug 9, 2008 18:44:15 GMT
Maybe I'm being over critical?? Not sure what the stats were, but I can't remember us troubling their very often, and certainly not as much as they troubled ours. As I have mentioned previously we lacked width to such an extent that I believe that it wasn't until oursubstitutions were made that were finally got to byline and got any type of cross in. Would also suggest the, from my view anyway, that the penalty award may have been a little generous?
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Post by Dave on Aug 9, 2008 18:50:51 GMT
You would have thought with Stevens and Carlisle, we should have had the width we required, I think we had at least 8 corners, did you think the substitutions changed the game in any way.
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Post by crooky on Aug 9, 2008 19:20:32 GMT
Have just read the match report on the offiical site and I'm baffled by it. The general view around me was that there may well be a few changes at half time due to lack of threat we were causing to their goal. Histon are a very big side, rather like Germany in the Euro's. Whilst we didn't quite resort to the hoof ball tactics of last season you would hardly describe it as an expansive passing game either. You did sort wonder how long it would be before Green was brought into the action for his physical presence alone. Instead it was Carayol and D'sane. The former did cause problems with his direct running at pace. D'sane for me is quite an intelligent player with the abillity to get in behind defenders. He did this on a couple of occasions, though not much came of these situations it gave the Histon defence a little more to think about.
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Post by Dave on Aug 9, 2008 19:23:58 GMT
Like I said crooky, thats how the game was made to sound to us listening on the radio, I'm all for putting positive spin on things where I can, but I do feel match commentary's and match reports should really reflect how the game really was.
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Post by Dave on Aug 9, 2008 19:40:19 GMT
Where is that Merse when you need him, I can't wait to read his views on Benyon
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Post by mickyflash on Aug 9, 2008 19:52:32 GMT
You would have thought with Stevens and Carlisle, we should have had the width we required, I think we had at least 8 corners, did you think the substitutions changed the game in any way. I often think we lack width when Danny plays, I do like him but he does get lost in the game and tends to drift inside to try and get more of the ball. I didn't go to the game, so am not going to comment too much on this one, I am disappointed with the result (Torquay let me down on a 6 away wins accumulator which would of won me £400 ) reading the report on the official site you would think we had one 3 nil, so thanks to everyone who has given us a more truer report on todays game. I don't think the substitutions were that unorthodox they were both like for like swaps and Carayol is always going to have an impact coming off the bench injecting a bit of pace into our play and hugging the byline. Green has failed to score yet for us and I have a feeling PB just wanted to show him he has to work a bit more and EARN his place in the side having said that I am disappointed we have again failed to score from open play, the back 4 certainly isn't the best in the division and I am expected us to concede more than we did last year, if the goals don't start coming soon we may find ourselves lingering around mid table Were still unbeaten, and a win on Tuesday will see us with 4 points from 2 games, its not all that bad is it?
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Post by Dave on Aug 9, 2008 20:03:23 GMT
Micky we will be getting some more match reports on here. I think today is a lesson for those of us who listen to a game on the radio, as we really can't coment on the game.
I do not share your views on the back four, I think Todd,Hodges and Mansell, should all do a good job there for us. Still do not think hargreaves is a CB, and just wonder, if Ellis should be starting. I know he has made mistakes, but Sean told me he is highly rated by the club.
If not then we must hope that Brough can get his game together, I would have preferred to see Green start, but share your views that Buckle wants to gee him up.
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Post by adamprowse on Aug 9, 2008 20:37:43 GMT
Match Summary
1st Half
We played some neat passing football, retained the ball, worked some good wide positions, and created very few chances. Histon showed little promise, and were restricted to a couple of scrambled chances.
2nd Half
Stevens and Carlisle seemed to tuck in, reducing our width, and making ball retention harder. Our goal- after some good work on the left wing, stevens was tripped when going nowhere in the area, harsh, but definitely a penalty. After this our best move of the game manipulated Carlisle into a central position 10 yards out, with time and space, crying out for a first time shot (albeit on his left foot) instead he took two touches, and then missed horribly. Their goal – I was at the wrong end but it looked alarmingly simple.
Star ratings – 5 equals mediocre.
Poke 8 – Great first half, was tempted to give him a 9, but as we conceded 8 it is. Very commanding, but could be more vocal.
Mansel 6 Alright, nothing special.
Todd 6 see mansell
Hargreaves 4 – Seemed constantly out of position, why as a midfielder he kept getting in the defences way I have no idea..
Hodges 5 I was expecting more from him, he might be better suited to left midfield where he would get morte of the ball.
Carlisle 1 (and he only got that because he tried hard) He missed a golden opportunity to make it 2-0, several times in the first half we worked the ball to him in great positions, only for him to pick out their ‘keeper with unerring accuracy. Tim Sills relies on a quality service from wide areas, Carlisle failed to supply. I blame the song, “he used to be … “
Wroe 7 good movement, some good passes, generally solid.
Thompson 9 my MOTM quality defending, good movement, vision, and passing, looks to be a superb addition.
Stevens 7 – not really in the game, kept drifting inside, denying us the width our passing style now demands. Seemed to come to life abit in the second half, and did some great work for the goal.
Benyon 6 – Worked very hard. However some weak shooting, and a desperate need for some extra pace let him down.
Sill – unclassified. Without a good level of service from the wings Sills’ talents will be wasted. While he won many flick ons (often going to a Torquay player) his great strength is attacking crosses, when the wingers deliver, then Sills can do his stuff, until then he is hamstrung by his teammates, hence the score.
Subs
Dsane – 6 added some pace and extra threat, did give the ball away a little to often though.
Carayol – 7 some good runs, a real threat, gave us the width that Stevens struggle to supply, made us seem much more balanced.
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Post by Dave on Aug 9, 2008 20:45:54 GMT
Many thanks for your report Adam.
I was shocked to see your score rating for Carlisle. He is a player I have always rated and I thought he looked good in the pre season games. I fully agree about the service that Sills requires and I did feel with the players we now have, he would have been getting that sort of service.
I think Buckle will need to work on keeping the wide men out wide and work more on getting quality balls into the box from wide positions. Work needed, but still plenty of hope.
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Post by adamprowse on Aug 9, 2008 21:17:37 GMT
i may have been a little harsh, but for me he was the stand out disaster today.
he did get into some good positions, but the product just wasn't there.
However given his pedigree, and his endeavor I fully expect him to come good.
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Post by chrish on Aug 9, 2008 21:33:58 GMT
Well. Today was my second visit to Histon. I have to say that the first impressions were that they've really improved the ground for away supporters since our last visit. Well done to all at Histon, especially for only charging fans a quid to park their cars in the Office car parks over the road. It makes a mockery of how much some clubs charge.
As for the game. Well it was a largely uneventful match. I think the new central midfield partnership of Wroe and Thompson looks very promising. Sills and Benyon shows signs like it might click although there is scope to mix this up a bit with Dsane and Green. Wayne Carlisle has got his worst game of the season out of the way and Lee Hodges will add a bit of quality and experience although I'd like to see him play left midfield with Nicholson at left back. The areas which gave me concern today were at right back and centre half. I don't think Mansell is really a full back and I don't think that Hargreaves is a centre half. The problem is with Wroe and Thompson making the centre midfield berths their own, where else would you play them?
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