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Post by dazgull on Feb 11, 2009 9:10:55 GMT
Im another one who is astonished at Matt Greens absence since the Coventry game. I can understand giving him a rest after that at Lewes but to not get on the pitch last night when we were losing at home was a poor decision from Buckle. Christie had done well for an hour but it was obvious that he was tiring and Green would have stretched their defence even more. Carayol and Stevens at last gave us some proper wing play by taking the fullbacks on just a pity most of their crosses werent good enough. However when the ball did get in the box we wasted chances again. Sills missed with a header and had the worse miss of the lot when he blazed over with the goal at his mercy. Someone says its about 1 goal in 12 games for him? Seems he is concentrating too much on getting on tv quiz shows. Personally i would put him on the bench on saturday and start with Green and Christie. I know they are similar size players but Greens running down the channels should open space up for others. A much better performance is needed on saturday and hope that we get stuck into them more than we did last night. We stand off far too much and let teams play (both goals came that way last night). We must be one of the worst teams in the league for not closing down sides. Rant over.  |
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Post by David Graham's Eighth Pint on Feb 11, 2009 10:24:43 GMT
Merse, your rants in this thread have been quality reading. Just for the record, we may share a name but AlexGulls is not me.  Thanks for the reports guys, always nice to be able to keep up with things when you're so far away. I'm going to put my positive hat on because... well, it's the only hat I have... We were always due a bit of a slump. The undefeated run was beyond all of our wildest dreams and we wouldn't be anywhere near where we are in the league had it not happened. We've had two horrible performances and deserved defeats. Ring any bells? Think back to August when we were humiliated by Ebbsfleet (as already mentioned here) and a few days later at Crawley. It's been a bizarre season, there's no doubting that. I also have every faith that Mr. Buckle will turn this around. I see the Buckle Out brigade is out again elsewhere. It's embarrassing, if I'm honest. |
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Post by merse on Feb 11, 2009 16:49:54 GMT
Highlight of the evening was getting my email mentioned live on the radio   It's silly buggers like you who encourage this nonsense and so costs us any chance of a decent, uninterrupted commentary. Whilst they've never had the nerve to read out one of my emails on air at least I've had a reply...................not that I thought much of it when it came! |
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Post by crispygull on Feb 11, 2009 17:10:52 GMT
I thought Beavon stood out a mile for them and one who could be a great addition to our squad one day - he's definitely a player "on the up" and one to keep an eye on. This statement might well hold some significence shortly! Grrrrrrrrr. I agree with DaveR about Ryan Williams. If he's a free agent in two weeks time, we could do worse than packing Carlisle or Carayol off to Salisbury or wherever and getting him in on the left. Unfortunately, although I understand we tried very hard to bring Stuart Beavon down here - the simple answer is he didnt want to come, and its now time to move on. Should he become a free agent in a couple of weeks time, then I would imagine there will be plenty of suitors from a higher level than us chasing his signature, with no doubt Bournemouth his preferred destination. Not only that but the signing of Iyeseden Christie has filled that gap in the squad anyway. A more realistic target would indeed be Ryan Williams at Weymouth, and lets face it we could do with a genuine left winger in the squad. If there is no takeover at Weymouth, then the likelihood is that the whole squad will become free agents and based on the evidence of last night there will certainly be some rich pickings for some teams - lets hope we are one of them - although I dont hold out a great deal of hope as in all honesty the size of our squad is big enough already and keeping all the players happy is a difficult enough job for Paul Buckle as it is, without adding to it. A similar situation happened a few years ago at Weymouth, although perhaps not as serious as this one, and their promotion challenging squad was rapidly dismantled for financial reasons - which resulted in a rapid slide down the table - but saw Exeter City as the main beneficiary with the signings of Richard Logan, Steve Tully and Lee Elam seen as a major boost to their squad - and ultimately,as we know to our cost, two of them played a big part in eventually getting them out of this division. |
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Post by David Graham's Eighth Pint on Feb 11, 2009 17:21:08 GMT
Highlight of the evening was getting my email mentioned live on the radio. It's silly buggers like you who encourage this nonsense and so costs us any chance of a decent, uninterrupted commentary. Whilst they've never had the nerve to read out one of my emails on air at least I've had a reply...................not that I thought much of it when it came! I like how you lambast Ospel Gull for sending in emails then admit to doing so yourself!  I like commentators reading out emails and texts for that extra debate, but only if done when there's a stoppage in play (a goal kick, for example). Reading them out over a passage of play is nothing short of farcical. If you want your emails read out on-air Mr. Merson, I would suggest cutting back on the swear count. |
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Post by NickGull on Feb 11, 2009 17:30:47 GMT
The thing that cheesed me off most tonight was the arguing between our fans near the end. The group of youths (who start the songs every now and then) were moaning about Buckle being tactically inept and that we'll never get out of this league with this idiot in charge, and so on. Okay, their paying to get into Plainmoor, so surely they have the freedom to say what they want, when they want (except the overuse of swear words like c*** and so on), but it was ridiculous. Hayden Jones and his friends reacted to what they were saying, with the fair point of "Your here to support your team, so bloody well do it" and other things along those lines. They didn't say much more after that, but were the ones booing at the end (the youths, not Hayden and co.), but it frustrates me. Okay, the performance wasn't there, the same with the result, but they tried, but lacked the final touch infront of goal. Sills missed a couple, which will be another blow to his confidence, and Weymouth took their chances when gifted them. We failed to do so, and hence why they came away with the victory. In my opinion, Christie wasn't good enough yet. He showed a couple of glimpses, but struggled to be honest, he missed that sitter and didn't really shine afterwards. Stevens and Carayol again failed to perform in my opinion, Carayol stepovered until he lost control and fell over, and Stevens wasn't good enough for me. I don't know what Green needs to do to earn a league start. He ran a Championship defence ragged just three weeks ago, and now he can't get into the starting eleven against Weymouth! I feel Buckle is making a big mistake in not playing Green, as he was doing a grand job against Blackpool/Coventry, he just wasn't scoring. Christie and Sills are too similar (they both try to flick on for the other). Roscoe Dsane deserves to be dropped after his consistantly rubbish performances on the left. In my opinion, try Carlisle on the left with Carayol on the right, and see what happens. One final thing, I was a bit dissapointed to see Buckle not clap the fans after the match though. He just walked off, head down, probably ready to give the lads a rollicking! Rant over.  |
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Post by atheringtongull on Feb 11, 2009 17:43:15 GMT
Sounds to me as if those of you who had to listen to the comedy show on Radio Devon had a better time than those of us who had to endure 90 mins of live crap football again. I agree with most of the comments made by those who went to Plainmoor. However, whoever gave Dsane 1 out of 10 was being very generous. Apart from his shot at goal, he did absolutely nothing. Time and time again he attempted to go past defenders, only to fail, and time and time again he passed to noone and gave away possession. Sills is not his former self and seemed to be in dreamland most of the time. I agree it's time to give him a "rest". Wroe majestically strolled around the pitch giving the ball away as often as he passed to one of our players. Apart from Mansell, deservedly man of the match, and Christie, noone seemed to be "up for it". Weymouth were better than us in every department. They were quicker to the ball, quicker to close us down, quicker in the attack and to use the old cliche "wanted to win more than us".
There is no doubt a lot of deja vu is rearing its ugly head at this time of the season. Perhaps we all got carried away and thought the squad is better than it actually is, like we did last season. I'm not going to blame Buckle for team selection or tactics 'cos I'll only get shot down by Merse and the other Buckle supporters. But please tell me this; when we were chasing the game at the end when it was 1-0 and Buckle put Robertson up front, presumably in an effort to salvage something, why, with forwards on the bench, didn't he take Robertson off and put one of them on?
I now have a confession to make. For the last 4 years, since I retired, I haven't missed one game at Plainmoor out of choice. This coming Saturday I have decided I am not going. Fair weather supporter I hear many shouting! Well, in the 60 years I've been a supporter I've probably seen more ups and downs than most of you. Driving back to N. Devon I was feeling so depressed I thought "is it really worth it". There have been many discussions as to why the crowds have dropped off this season and how it is easy to lose "the habit" of going to Plainmoor, but I know how many must feel. In spite of my declaration at the appalling start to the season not to go while Buckle was still manager, I relented and have been to every game. Once we turned the corner there is no doubt we have played some good football, but of late it has all gone wrong again. You might not like it, but the finger has to be pointed at the manager and his staff, team selection and tactics. I have just read that one of Scolari's faults was that he had no "Plan B" when things weren't working. Need I say more.
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Post by Dave on Feb 11, 2009 19:08:14 GMT
I will give my views on this post to the remarks made by crispygull, nickgull and atheringtongull.
Crispy If I was a betting man I would put money on the post made by BudleighGull( stating the Weymouth players may have had good reasons to try and impress) as meaning they were hoping for a move to TUFC and soon. Like you I feel that the size of the squad would be the main reason we will see no movement from Weymouth to our club. If a way could be found to make it happen then as you say one or two of them could make all the difference and get the same result for us as it did for Exeter City.
Nickgull, some fans will aways over react and carry on in away that makes you want to question just want sort of fans they really are, let it ride over you and just keep giving your support in the best way you know how.
I do feel not playing Green is a big mistake and while I do not know the reasons why Bucks is not picking him, I will just have to trust his judgment and inside knowledge.
I did watch him yesterday during the game and he was showing plenty of emotion for once, maybe because we were behind, but win or lose he should come over and clap the fans, but then if he heard all that was bing shouted by the few morons, maybe he just let it get to him and upset him to much.
atheringtongull, I'm sorry you feel this way again and you can expect that merse will have something to say on your post. All I will say is we are all free to make decisions and also change our minds back again if we wish too. I have said plenty of times I would not go again, but always did and you should always feel its fine to change your mind and not worry or care what some may say. You are a fan and have shown good support for the club, maybe missing a game will get your appetite back and we will see you on the popside again soon.
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Post by merse on Feb 11, 2009 19:12:30 GMT
It's silly buggers like you who encourage this nonsense and so costs us any chance of a decent, uninterrupted commentary. Whilst they've never had the nerve to read out one of my emails on air at least I've had a reply...................not that I thought much of it when it came! I like how you lambast Ospel Gull for sending in emails then admit to doing so yourself! I like commentators reading out emails and texts for that extra debate, but only if done when there's a stoppage in play (a goal kick, for example). Reading them out over a passage of play is nothing short of farcical. If you want your emails read out on-air Mr. Merson, I would suggest cutting back on the swear count. That's the whole point, I haven't been attention seeking and emailing to hear my name on air. My emails have been either a complaint about the lack of proper commentary or the dreadful technical standards that lose us whole swathes of coverage - a problem that has been with Radio Devon for over a year now. TWICE in recent matches I have phoned friends at the game and asked them to bring to the BBC team the fact that we are getting nothing on the web link and TWICE there has been an immediate "switch on" . Just why grown men feel the need to email in and tell the commentator where they are listening from is beyond belief to me, why can't they just concentrate on the the bloody game and let others listen to it in peace! Who the feck needs to know that I am in London N7, that I've just farted - (whoops worse than that) that I'm now in the shower and will be out again soon with a new pair of underpants on, whilst the ninny on the mike prattles on about the bloody palm tree in his garden and his bobble hat defies belief.  |
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Post by ospelgull on Feb 11, 2009 19:17:01 GMT
It's silly buggers like you who encourage this nonsense and so costs us any chance of a decent, uninterrupted commentary. Whilst they've never had the nerve to read out one of my emails on air at least I've had a reply...................not that I thought much of it when it came!  Are you trying to take the piss Merse? It was tongue in cheek as I'm sure you will know. The game/commentary was so boring that I decided to sent a mail. At least one of my friends from the English Riviera heard it  Must agree that the commentary is very poor on most accounts. Is it you, all the British taxpayers that fund the BBC so they can broadcast this shite? |
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Post by merse on Feb 11, 2009 19:28:08 GMT
atheringtongull, I'm sorry you feel this way again and you can expect that merse will have something to say on your post. All I would say Atherington is you have an appalling record off saying "never....................." Why be that way? With the financial and mileage commitment YOU show, you are entitled to expect equal commitment back; but I don't hear you claiming any lack of such commitment. What you had to suffer last night was incompetence..................incompetence in putting the ball in the net that is caused through poor form - poor form that in turn eats away at other's confidence - a lack of confidence that then opens the floodgates for the fools and the buffoons who think that football is the same thing they play on their computers at home and wouldn't know how to begin to play the game to any competent level to start abusing and calling for the manager's head and the return of a previous one who can't even command an interview these days for any vacancy. You're old enough and have seen enough to realise (which you will do in a day or two) that professional footballers are just human and unfortunately the lower down the ladder you look, the more human they become; and the more human they are the more they have in common with yours or my ability to play the game than ever we realise! You'll be back |
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Post by merse on Feb 11, 2009 19:34:45 GMT
Are you trying to take the piss Merse? It was tongue in cheek as I'm sure you will know. The game/commentary was so boring that I decided to sent a mail. At least one of my friends from the English Riviera heard it Must agree that the commentary is very poor on most accounts. Is it you, all the British taxpayers that fund the BBC so they can broadcast this shite? As long as you and I only put our tongues in our own cheeks we'll be OK Rob. Seeing as you "get it on my account" you can transfer some Euros into my account then! ;D |
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Post by jerry on Feb 11, 2009 20:23:11 GMT
The thing that cheesed me off most tonight was the arguing between our fans near the end. The group of youths (who start the songs every now and then) were moaning about Buckle being tactically inept and that we'll never get out of this league with this idiot in charge, and so on. Okay, their paying to get into Plainmoor, so surely they have the freedom to say what they want, when they want (except the overuse of swear words like c*** and so on), but it was ridiculous. Hayden Jones and his friends reacted to what they were saying, with the fair point of "Your here to support your team, so bloody well do it" and other things along those lines. They didn't say much more after that, but were the ones booing at the end (the youths, not Hayden and co.), One final thing, I was a bit dissapointed to see Buckle not clap the fans after the match though. He just walked off, head down, probably ready to give the lads a rollicking! Rant over. One of those "youths" had plenty to say for himself outside! Gave a load of foul mouthed abuse to some other fans, then when asked to "come here if you've something to say to me" waited until he was a safe distance away and shouted more abuse, turned the corner and ran like Usain Bolt off into the distance leaving his "mate" looking nervously over his shoulder! I've honestly never seen anyone run so fast in my life! ;D And Buckle did come and clap the fans at the final whistle with a few half hearted players! |
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Post by Dave on Feb 11, 2009 20:38:22 GMT
Thanks for clearing that up jerry, I needed to go and let out some water and did not want big Al having to wait for me, so went from my place just before the final whistle.
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Post by ali on Feb 11, 2009 22:11:50 GMT
I stand on the half way line on the popside and I am sick to death of these idiots booing and hurling abuse at the players before the game has even ended. I keep trying to tell myself just ignore them, but they wind me right up. If they want to boo at the end of the game then so be it, I wouldn't do it but ok I can handle that, but before the game ends WHAT BENEFIT will this have, surely it is better to be the 12th player and will that ball into the back of the net.
About 15 mins before the end I turned to these ****** and politely told them to SHUT UP (not) and then had to endure 10 mins of being called a 'badger' (two stripes on my coat - really intelligent) and that I obviously did not have a husband or children because I was a woman at the football.
It is a good job I am a tough old bird and have fairly broad shoulders but I did feel a bit better when Hayden and Co chipped in and also appreciated the couple of teenage lads who came up to me afterwards and said 'Good on you for standing up to those morons'.
I will see how it goes on Saturday because I think I may well be a bit of a target now and will move if I have to, but hopefully it will all be forgotten when we go and beat Altrincham!
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