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Post by chelstongull on Sept 11, 2010 19:16:23 GMT
chelstongull i have just got off the phone to all my tufc chums after telling them of benyons scrap with zebs,which now aparently didnt happen at all,a chinese whisper started by you,that in itself was of more interest than the stuff the team served up today.The only positives,clean sheet,played poorly but back top of the league,aint bad after that performance.Bevan got mom,well deserved,the rest of it generally poor.Saw charlie fairhurst in the family stand end didnt know he supported torquay Only mentioning what I heard which I didn't believe anyway!! |
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Post by keyberrygull on Sept 11, 2010 19:20:12 GMT
Benyon was rested it seems Rumour is that he is still in custody at Torquay Police station I wish that you would turn your hearing aid on Chelston! The man said Benyon had been "rested" not "arrested".   I hope his his hearing aid does have a serious defect. 5 times I asked him for a pint this afternoon and failed to get a response each time. Only joking Phil (only if it's still alllowed on here) Great to meet you today and thanks for making me feel very young ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by chelstongull on Sept 11, 2010 19:26:19 GMT
I wish that you would turn your hearing aid on Chelston! The man said Benyon had been "rested" not "arrested". I hope his his hearing aid does have a serious defect. 5 times I asked him for a pint this afternoon and failed to get a response each time. Only joking Phil (only if it's still alllowed on here) Great to meet you today and thanks for making me feel very young ;D ;D ;D It was great to meet someone else from this fine forum and I enjoyed our chat about the achievements of Margaret Thatcher amongst other things.  What do you mean "making me feel very young"  Time for a TFF pint and a curry.............. |
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Post by keyberrygull on Sept 11, 2010 21:12:58 GMT
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The bottom line for me today was that we were poor going forward, second best in midfield but defended pretty well overall. The Bevanator being awarded the MOTM award tells a story.
The game its self was very scrappy, stop start, lacked any real quality, had little in the way of goalmouth action but give Accy a bit of credit for the way they went about things.You don't get points for losing nine goal thrillers.
Once the game had settled down, and with with neither team conceding, 0-0 was always going to be a good days work for them. Neither team seemed to have the ability to build up any sustained pressure. They bossed the midfield, passed the ball well without hurting us and had the better chances on the break. The most annoying aspect was the blatant way in which they took as much time- possibly too much!-out of the game at every opportunity. The taking of goal kicks,free kicks and throw-ins seemed to take forever. A frustrating day for the spectators but a hard earned point that lifts us back on to the top of the table. That sounds a little better.
As for player ratings I wont use the 6 factor but the X factor
9 No's and a Yes for both Bevan and Branson
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Post by keyberrygull on Sept 11, 2010 21:21:54 GMT
It was great to meet someone else from this fine forum and I enjoyed our chat about the achievements of Margaret Thatcher amongst other things. ] Yeah, A great conversation about the iron lady Phil. I'll get back to you on that after watching the last night at the proms. Jerusalem..............Rule Britannia.........Land of hope and Glory... |
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Post by loyalgull on Sept 11, 2010 21:33:16 GMT
chelstongull i have just got off the phone to all my tufc chums after telling them of benyons scrap with zebs,which now aparently didnt happen at all,a chinese whisper started by you,that in itself was of more interest than the stuff the team served up today.The only positives,clean sheet,played poorly but back top of the league,aint bad after that performance.Bevan got mom,well deserved,the rest of it generally poor.Saw charlie fairhurst in the family stand end didnt know he supported torquay Only mentioning what I heard which I didn't believe anyway!! ;D |
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Post by harboursidegull on Sept 11, 2010 21:42:32 GMT
Just got in after entertaining evening, watchin the end of the Proms.. lovely rousing stuff eh,
Well today's game was a real anti climax wasn't it, Accy did to us what we did to Bradford three weeks ago ie they didn't let us get into the match for a second,they had some extremely handy players out there...
Was Elliot rested or injured ? We certainly missed him .
And finally before MOTD comes on ..... The best thing about today was..... The Pitch !! Well done to all involved
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Post by Swanny on Sept 11, 2010 21:51:59 GMT
Purely from an entertainment's viewpoint today today's match was absoloutely shocking. Yes you can get some decent 0-0 draws but this was definitely not one of them. My son described it like watching the England v. Algeria match in the World Cup, yes it was that bad ! We just sat there waiting for some sort of excitement to happen. Looking at both team's defensive records a 0-0 was the most likely outcome. Crowd 2,598, barely 50 from Accrington who shrewdly disguise their lack of numbers by carrying huge flags. Sponsors MOTM going to Bevan for a few outstanding saves that saved us from defeat.
The first 5 minutes were the best with Zebroski partnering Gritton up front with us taking the game to Accrington and we had a couple calls of handballs in their box turned down. The excitement died and I realised that Zebroski had switched to right midfield with Carlisle more in the middle. Poor old Gritton was isolated up front and it was clear to all that this formation was not producing anything. Accrington had the bulk of possession and Bevan made a couple of great diving saves, the best a reflex save from a deflected shot. The only bit of quality from us in the first half was a run down the right by Stevens who played a one-two with Zebroski that put him in the clear. His low cross was not finished by Gritton. As for Gritton, he produced the odd decent head down but his footwork was off-the-pace. I don't think he featured in this week's reserve game and that was a mistake in my opinion.
The second half did not improve as we continued to play the lone stiker up front. Buckle did use all his 3 subs and there was only a minimal improvement. Kee did not improve matters as our new lone striker although playing O'Kane did give us a bit of a more adventurous formation. It was still pretty dire to watch saying that. Bevan again kept us on level terms with a fine tip over and a late diving save from a close range header. Matters did liven up a little when we won our first corner well into the second half and had a free kick just outside the box. Could we nick it at the death ? Sadly not and we did not deserve to. At least we know how to defend and have a brilliant keeper when the team does not perform.
I see Buckle's confirmed Benyon had a knee injury and how we missed him today. And as for Buckle who normally likes his team to play attacking, entertaining football. Well it just did not happen today and for a home game I found his tactics baffling. I'm afraid this was no advert for league 2 football and we were lucky not to lose.
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Post by royalgull on Sept 11, 2010 22:14:17 GMT
Sadly i made this point when we were patting ourselves on the back having been totally outplayed at Bournemouth. The 4-5-1 is a load of old cack. It works if you have an attacking midfielder (Lampard esque) who bursts from midfield and can create as well as score 15-20 goals a season. No one here is capable of that.
Start of the season our best performances were 4-4-2 with Kee or Gritton partnering Elliot. OK if he isn't available then give Kee a run from the start.
I worry about our squad options. Past our first XI there isn't a lot there to change games. O'Kane seems to be Buckle's flavour of the month as the attacking playmaker, in the limited amount I've seen of him he simply isn't up to that job.
As much as I love Wayno I'm not sure why he's come straight back into the side when the original side was winning.
Positive, didn't lose.
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Post by rjdgull on Sept 11, 2010 22:55:25 GMT
Benyon being injured for the past few games explains a lot, including the disinterested and other comments. ;D Zebroski has done well up front and this has created the space for Carlisle to come back into the side but there is now less threat from the flanks.
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Post by pappy on Sept 11, 2010 23:45:00 GMT
An ok game for me. I think the referee made it a very stop-start game for me and didnt really know what decision to make half the time. I didnt think there was anything to shout about during the game at all, a couple of minutes where we put them under presure from set peices and I thought we could have scored if we had shot 1st time instead of taking an extra touch.
Still we are now back on top of the league and thats another 90 minutes added to our unbeaten run and clean sheet record attempt. I`ll have some photos to put up sometime tomorrow evening.
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Post by Budleigh on Sept 12, 2010 7:46:42 GMT
It was discussed at 'executive level' post-match in the usual surroundings and it is a definite goer... the beers that is?!
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Sept 12, 2010 8:36:43 GMT
Our performance in some ways had a bit of "after the Lord Mayor's show" feel about it but a draw against a very able Accrington team was in no way a disgrace.
It was an interesting match - the passing, movement, no-nonsense, organised but fortunately (for us!) fairly toothless attack of Accrington against our team that tried but was never really at the races. With 1/2 hour to go I would have been happy with a point, but towards the end the electric pace of Macklin, that little bit of quality that had been lacking in the midfield was injected by O'Kane and the agressive Kee injected some life into the performance and we could have snatched a win.
It doesn't bother me that I couldn't really work-out which formation the team had adopted, but what did was that sometimes the players didn't seem comfortable with it and were all over the place at times in the first half. Gritton did his best but his very limited mobility hampered our attacking play when there was often no-one but him to chase impossible through-balls.
Wayno looks well short of sharpness but I think that will come back - lest we forget that he has been out for the best part of 6 or 7 months.
Kee looks like he is carrying too much weight - certainly too much to allow him to give a high tempo performance for much more than 45 minutes. He lost control a few times as the ball drifted away - no doubt as he gets a bit of sharpness and confidence that side of his game will return.
With regards to Accrington, I was very, very impressed with a lot of their play and the approach and attitude of their players. The applause from the Grandstand as they left the field seemed to be very much appreciated by them.
They played a great deal of excellent football. The touch, skill, positional discipline and movement often left more limited players like Wroe chasing shadows and knocking balls to invisible teammates. They played football from the keeper right the way through the pitch.
If they had been able to retain Symes and Grant then they would be some team - although as it is I don't think that it is beyond the realms of possibility that they will challenge for a play-off spot.
I read that a few of their players had played in the premiership academies of Lancashire and Merseyside - it was clear that they had good technical ability but could apply this at football league level - something that doesn't always translate easily.
As mentioned by another poster above, I heard a board member talking about Benyon's knee injury to a supporter. Hopefully he'll be back soon.
All in all, it was an acceptable result to get when not really in top gear. I think that if we had played a more open game we would have been picked-off by Accy. Our defence still played very well and did everything that was asked of them.
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Post by chelstongull on Sept 12, 2010 9:32:49 GMT
It was nice to finally meet another quality poster on this site prior to the Accy game - step forward keyberrygull. In an all too brief chat we discussed whether Margaret Thatcher was the finest Prime Minister of the 20th Century, his lino duties with a young Mr Merse reffing, the forum and it's many characters and of course the game. Well off I went to take up my normal position (on the popside that is), a quick wave to the one and only Mr W and what looked like his brother, missed my handshake and a chat with Dave, its not the same without you and a brief chat with Jane (aka westbaygull).
Started off with a 4 - 5 - 1 formation with Gritts being the lone gunman striker. Despite winning a few knock down balls which no one was there to pick them up, this formation didn't seem to worry the Accy defence. Thought Bucks might have changed formations after about 30 minutes or so, but it wasn't to be.
Bevan pulled off a couple of world class saves in the first half - one certainly in the same draw as the Banks save against Brazil in the World Cup finals of 1970.
HT: 0 - 0
OKane and Macklin on for Stevens and Carlisle, who both had quiet games. Macklin injected some pace down the left flank but had to cut into shoot on his favoured right peg. I'd start with him on the right next week.
Kee came on for Gritts but blew hot and cold. I had bigger expectations of him based on his pre season form. Where was Benyon - rested I now understand.
There were a few strange reffing type decisions which puzzled me.
Firstly, we had a free kick towards the end of the game for handball (should the Accy player as last man be shown the red card?) with the ball being placed on or around the D - 10 yards being the penalty spot. Well the Accy players encroached and encroached to the extent that when Kee took the free kick they were only 4 yards away. Surely a retake?
Secondly, a kick from Bevs saw Kee just offside a few feet inside the Accy half. Kee made no attempt to play or interfere with the ball and the lino called for offside. This gave the Accy players the advantage of a free kick on the half way line rather than their keeper receiving the ball.
Thirdly, not sure why their keeper wasn't carded for persistent time wasting.
Towards the end of the game Bevs pulls off another top draw save just as he is announced as MOM.
Ratings:
Bevan 9
Nicho 7
Ellis 7.5
Branston 7
Robo 6.5
Stevens 4
Wroe 5
Mansell 5
Carlisle 4
Zebs 7.5
Gritts 6.5
Macklin 6.5
OKane 6
Kee 5
Still, were top of the League!!
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Post by alunmeerkat on Sept 12, 2010 11:10:11 GMT
Best result was I decided not to go yesterday. We look short of firepower really and need another striker.
Without a fit Benyon we are basically stuffed up front. Gritts is the wrong side of thirty - Zebs seems best out wide and Puffing Billy has been a major damp squib so far.
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